Moscow Mitch Going Down

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Poll today:

Mitch McConnell (R): 40%

Amy McGrath (D): 41% 

Of course what did fucking asshole Bernie Sanders do today he endorsed Charles Booker over Amy McGrath in the Primary just as fuck you to the establishment. Seriously can't get my head around that level of arrogance. 

 

Wonder how our resident bitter bernie bro's feel about this? I agree, El Nino, shameful!

Was it Timpy that told me I was delusional to think a Dem could beat Mitch in KY? Even though thery just elected a Dem governor. derp

Amy was the first female fighter pilot to fly in combat. She's no AOC politically (not that I like AOC), but she's the exact kind of democrat to win in a red state (ex-military etc).

The election is still a long ways out and a 1% lead gets leveled by the margin of error. The good news is McConnell is not particularly popular in Kentucky these days. Jane Mayer's reporting on McConnell in the New Yorker from April sheds a lot of light on the Majority Leader's rise to power:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/04/20/how-mitch-mcconnell-became...

why would he do that?

ps. die mitch.

Found it:

 

 

nedb on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 – 10:50 am

Ditch Mitch!!  Amy is going to take him down in November.

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Mr_timpane on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 – 11:18 am

^Lol. If you think Kentucky is going blue then you're losing it. They just let an armed white militia storm their Capitol. Good luck.

 

 

nedb on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 – 12:15 pm

KY elected a Democratic Governor last November....yea I'm losing it.

 

 

 

....Timpy so wrong LOL

It would be a dream come true to see Moscow Mitch (Swamp King) get defeated this cycle! Apparently McGrath supports term limits (2) and when the poll included that piece her lead went to something like 53% to 36%. We'll see - I am hopeful but not holding my breath on that one panning out. A Lindsey Graham defeat may be getting at least close as well. 

Ripe for the picking. I'll be doing my best Irish jig the day that constitution annihilating co-conspirator is kicked to the curb. 

Bernie. WTF!  It's Kentucky!

Vic ain't too happy with Mitch. NSFW! Or for any sensitive ears nearby. https://www.facebook.com/VicComedy/videos/624419868109907/ 

I don't have much $, but donating to her campaign and that Jamie guy going up against Lindsay Graham in SC. 

Both have great chances of defeating those scum bags. 

Ditch and Die Mitch !

She's up by 1%, Ned. Classic HRC bandwagoner that counts their chickens before they hatch. 
 

kinda weird that you save those conversations, tbh. Who gives a fuck about that? Lol

I just searched for it, didn't "save" it.

I'm not "losing it" but you have been consistently lol

Actually, I'm doing great. In case you have noticed, I don't give a shit about the zone or what goes on here. I'm come here for laughs and that's it. Copy that and save it, guy.

We are laughing at you not with you, Bro.

 

 

at least you're enjoying the laughs!

I don't know who the fuck you are or what you're talking about, crazy woman. 

laugh laugh   i thought i'd cry, Bro

Bro doesn't know shit

 

'Bro ain't  gonna learn what he  don't want to know.'

>I don't give a shit about the zone or what goes on here

 

 

Lol! Bro gives massive shit, which is why  he continues to rant and rave. Time to turn the page, Bro devil

Bwa ha ha ha Tampax

 

 

Pretty awesome that two insane women pushing 60 can post like a couple of drunk twelve year olds on the zone. Again, thanks for laughs.

Sure thing sweet tarts...

Bwa ha ha ha ha 

<  I don't know who the fuck you are or what you're talking about, 

LoLOL  I know man, it's the Zen of the Zone. Crazy fun 

But you have to be an evelyn woods speed reader olympian to keep up with it all 

> two insane women pushing 60

 >>I don't know who the fuck you are or what you're talking about, 

 

Bro can't keep his story straight,   claims to know  my age but don't know who I am.

 

 Incel Bro doesn't seem very happy. 

 

 

 

Too funny. It must be hard being wrong about mostly everything.

 

Welcome Home

 Mr_timpane on Wednesday, May 27, 2020 – 06:50 pm

You could shut the zone down any time you like Judit. Just press the button and poof. Until then, it is what it is. Mostly it's just a bunch of old white guys with nothing to do

 

I'm really happy to hear of the fucks that You do not give...Welcome Home Bro. 

evelyn woods speed reader olympian to keep up with it all <<<<

 

GOLD ^^^^^

posting in troll thread

Like I said, I don't know anyone of you cave dwellers and have no idea what you're all bitching about. I'm doing great, thanks for thinking about me, Ned. RRg found one of my classic posts. You're welcome. Have a good day night you punk ass motherfuckers

mcgrath isn't the one we need lol. corporate monsters. 

 

charles booker is for the people. 

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https://isj.org.uk/divided-they-fell-the-german-left-and-the-rise-of-hit...

 

>> mcgrath isn't the one we need lol. corporate monsters.  <<

To steal a GOP senate seat in KY? From Mitch, no less?

Yes, she is.

 

it's now arrogant to endorse a real leader of the people over corporate owned politicians.

liberals 2020. 

sad. 

ned we know you're all in for the status quo and systemic racism. 

sit down buddy. 

>>>>charles booker is for the people. 

That may be so, hot air, but with 81% of the people supporting other candidates, the numbers fall a quite a bit short to see where he'll have a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected so he CAN do something. See that's the thing you refuse to understand. YOU HAVE TO WIN THE ELECTION FIRST!  Defeating McConnell would be great, and a lesson to repubs who think they can be that arrogant and out of touch in the future. 

^republican. 

no more incremental steps man. 

that's called supporting systemic racism. 

Sen Grassley will remain the ranking republican even if Mitch wins, as he’s not up for reelection until 2022.

If Mitch loses and the pukes keep the senate, Shelby will become the minority leader and inhofe would become the whip as he is not up this year either

Mcconnell loses and the senate goes blue, chuck will become the minority leader and Sen Shelby (AL) will become the whip .

 

otherwise fuck em all

Nancy came out of nowhere with that takedown. Wham! Hahaha 

>>>that's called supporting systemic racism. 

Sorry bud, but I have no clue how you connected those dots. When you can't support a point in a discussion, you shift to something else. You're up in the night. Goodnight.  

Can you please paint a picture of how it will look without incremental steps?

Hahaha just read some of it again. Haha

i know, slick. 

you're a republican in utah for christ's sake. no shit. lol. 

Complaining that a progressive black candidate might screw things up for the moderate conservative white candidate is pretty lame. Gotta agree with p-heat.

I'm guessing me, Lager, Weird, and me are the only zoners who get to vote for McGrath in Nov?

 

Just the four of us.

 

Not that it's any of my business who Weird and Lager vote for.

idk, bk. 

but look outside now -- this is with incremental steps. 

 

<<<>>>She's no AOC politically (not that I like AOC),

she doesn't have white skin. 

Just got my ballot in the mail today.

 

I'm ashamed to say I wasn't aware McGrath had any real challengers in the primary. Pandemic brain I guess.

 

I may vote for Booker or Broihier in the primary.

 

My good friend in Henderson voted for Broihier.

<<<>>>Sure thing sweet tarts...

i'll give you one. 

it'll blow your vomit vest right off, clean yas up a bit. 

Who did Biden endorse? 

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a trump democrat. 

>> I'm guessing me, Lager, Weird, and me are the only zoners who get to vote for McGrath in Nov? <<

My daughter is now registered in KY, so add 1 vote from CO. She will be volunteering for Amy, as well.

>> a trump democrat. <<

At least she has a chance to unseat Mitch. You just keep tilting windmills and stay depheater'd.

to continue corporate rule? 

supporting the status quo and systemic racism must end, ned. 

you're doing the opposite lol. 

rough. 

Idealism vs Pragmatism

Short Term vs Long Term

Ain't no easy answers...

Always help the majority.

this logic has been posted since the beginning of bernie's 20 run. 

i'll just say look the fuck around. 

we tried your way. 

it's a mess out there. 


it appears P-nutz has always been given everything he wants.

when he doesn't get it...

pounds the table incessantly like a little child.

 

somebody get this kid his cheesy poofs.

ffs

 

 

try harder, thod. 

>> Always help the majority. <<

Nominating an uber-progressive for US Senate in KY would absolutely help Mitch get re-elected.

People on the extreme ends of the political spectrum (both ends) tend to surround themselves with like minded people. As a result, they ignore the massive blob of independent/moderate voters in the middle. It's simply a political reality.

I have never said I disagree with the policies Bernie advocated for, I've just thought (correctly) that it won't fly to the blob in the middle. This election is a mandate on Trump (and his supporters in Congress), period. Win this one first, then take the next step on a more progressive agenda.

hopefully pelosi goes down as well -- she's just as bad as mcconnell. 

remember when she got her party in 2014 to vote against an amendment to end transfers of military equipment to local police. 

this is what has to be beaten, not given endless amounts of chances. 

Yep. Going too progressive on candidates in KY and other states with similar cultures and demographics is a set-up for failure. I also agree that getting rid of Pelosi would be a good start on the other side of the aisle. The extreme fringes on both sides of our political spectrum suck and Pelosi does nothing to either help those more progressive than her or those trying to appeal to the left-center.

 

Exhibit 2:

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....and more Lindsay Graham gay prostitution sex rumors.  Where there's smoke:

https://twitter.com/mark_mackillop/status/1269251793567055872?s=20

well this has been a hell of a year...

picasso moon second set opener or shakedown?

 

ogkb

 pyramidheat on Tuesday, June 9, 2020 – 10:02 pm

<<<>>>Sure thing sweet tarts...

i'll give you one. 

it'll blow your vomit vest right off, clean yas up a bit. 

 

You can keep Your shitty drugs P heat.

I do hope You have some Narcan handy though, just in case...

Clean up Your own shit loser, You're a fucking mess.

 

...but the voters in Pelosi's district keep re-electing her so the rest of us get stuck with her subsequent power in Congress. That is all that matters so moving the needle by coming up with 'better' respective candidates IN HER DISTRICT whom can win is the only real way to bounce her and those as worthless as her. 

haha nice melt rrg. 

"Those are just My Ladybugs"!?!?!

Ewwww

Brother pyro, gotta be related to Paul's grandfather,  he's a keen mixer

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Hate is a powerful drug 

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73 posts and not one mention of how revolting the idea is of Mitch McConnell going down on anyone at anytime ever. At times like this, I miss Tulsa Chris.

I thought about it, Mike, but wasn't compelled.

power bottoms...

I'm curious why Bernie is an "asshole" for endorsing a candidate that's running against a progressive democrat? I get that if he was pulling for McConnell he'd be an asshole, but a primary should be competitive, isn't that the point of running a fair contest? If Booker loses, sure, throw some support Amy's way, but until that is the scenario, perhaps she ought to appeal to voters who support Bernie instead of appealing to  temporarily ashamed republicans if his endorsement is seen as such a threat to her success. Speaking of...Has Biden endorsed her, or supported any candidate currently running for senate? How are progressives supposed to enact real change from "the bottom up" if their voices are silenced from the bottom on up?

Sorry, typo that should read "I'm curious why Bernie is an "asshole" for endorsing a progressive candidate that's running against a centrist / right leaning democrat who participated in stumping for trump? "

"And you know what? Who stops them along the way? Who stops the president from doing these things? Mitch McConnell," she continued on MSNBC. "And I think that that’s very important, and that’s going to be my message – the things that Kentuckians voted for Trump for are not being done. He’s not able to get it done because of Senator McConnell." 

So it's progressives bad, trump good now?

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/09/amy-mcgra...

Look AOC endorsed Booker too, and I'm 100% for that. Her role is to be the all in progressive supporter. When Bernie ran for President to represent all Democrats he took on a different role. He carries weight now and people listen to him. Yes it would be fine if he endorses Booker in the Primary and then pivots to Amy in the general, but we have seen he doesn't do that, and the people who follow him don't do that either. McGrath needs every vote she can get and even then she probably wont win and that is fine too.

But the reason we want a close race in Kentucky is because McConnell has amassed a huge war chest. He doles that out to Republicans in close races all around the country. If he is in a close race in KY he can't do that and it makes it much more likely that the Republicans loose the Senate which makes it much more likely we can nominate a young liberal to replace RGB on the surpeme court, and so many other things that fall in place from that. 

 

When Bernie ran for President to represent all Democrats he took on a different role. He carries weight now and people listen to him.

Oh really? Interesting. He's suspended his campaign, and he's using his voice to represent the wishes of his progressive supporters. Maybe people running for office should start listening to them too if his endorsement in a primary is such a big hairy deal.

I'm wondering if you missed this nugget, a verbatim McGrath quote in my other post. 

"she continued on MSNBC. "And I think that that’s very important, and that’s going to be my message – the things that Kentuckians voted for Trump for are not being done. He’s not able to get it done because of Senator McConnell."

Also a 1% lead isn't beating McConnell, c'mon man, that's well within the error margin. I know some are used to going rounds name calling and extreme absolutes instead of having conversations here, but gaslighting is beneath you.

Also what support has Biden given the downticket? I'm not a fan of his so perhaps I've missed his endorsement of McGrath? Bueller?

 

What she said is a strategy to win in Kentucky. Trump ran on a populist message. The best health care in the world for everyone. It was all bullshit of course, but it makes perfect sense to make McConnell the reason it didn't happen. You have to get Trump voters to win in Kentucky 

Here is Amy's platform. 

 We need leaders who say “yes” to raising the minimum wage, “yes” to investing in underserved communities, and “yes” to funding for badly-needed infrastructure improvements. I will be that kind of senator. 

A public option would give all Americans the opportunity to buy a publicly run insurance plan instead of a private insurance plan, if they prefer to do so.

Climate change and resource scarcity are with us today—we already have climate change refugees in America​

The gun lobby’s mere ability to stifle any reasonable efforts toward tackling the epidemic of gun violence is the greatest obstacle we face in dealing with gun safety and strong policing of existing laws. ​

We need leaders with the courage to stand for secure borders, but also who will enforce it in a humane way in accordance with our American values. No mother should be separated from her child.​

She ain't a progressive but she is way better than Moscow Mitch. Gaslighting is taking one sentence out of context and pretending she is a Trump supporter. 

 

 

She  openly supports Trump's endgame, that doesn't concern you? It deeply concerns me. 

"that’s very important, and that’s going to be my message – the things that Kentuckians voted for Trump for are not being done. He’s not able to get it done because of Senator McConnell."-Amy McGrath 

Even Thom doesn't go that far in endorsing trump...yikes. I'd give you a point for out of contyext if she didn't spell out to KY that she's going to assist trump in completing his agenda, and went so far as to paint McConnell as blocking trump's true wishes. Hahahaha ayfkmrn?! The guy practically carries trump's jockstrap for him!

 

Who has Biden supported on the down ticket? 

 

 

Anyhow, good luck to Booker, I hope he beats McGrath in the primary. She sure seems to be endorsing trump over the  presumed democrat nominee Biden, which I'd think would upset you more than Bernard following through with his established platform and promise to support progressive candidates. 

^Its not really worth it, Dise. People like Ned and others on this thread just see a "blue" candidate. They don't actually have a clue of what the fuck these candidates stand for or the basis of their campaigns and haven't really the faintest idea of what they are talking about. Very similar to the republican POV on candidacy. Ask any "red" voter and they will claim the same shit. For McGrath this is just an opportunity because she is running against a news media villain and all around hated politician. If it wasn't for McConnell then no one would ever have heard her name spoken around the country. My take on Democrat's and Republicans is this: Republicans look you in the face and tell you they are gonna rail you in the rear. Dems tell you they won't and wait till you are sleeping to do it. They are all trash. Lot of progressive candidates are also going to take the money and run as well in the future. Bernie is not at all exempt from that either. He can get caught believing his own bullshit too and then he can look very foolish as well. There is no knight in shining armor who will help us. We have to come together and work in unity to achieve the things that we want. Any new party or new candidate will just be another fuck toy for the rich and powerful or they won't get the vote. 
 

 

I give El Nino more credit than you do. I assume he's just really enthusiastic about booting Mitch which is a reasonable starting point. My opinion is that if Booker beat Amy we all win instead of just the blue meanies getting a participation chip to show for it.

largest newspaper in KY endorses Booker. 

 

<<<>>>She will be volunteering for Amy, as well.

lol. trump democrat. she's not helping the cause, in fact she's standing in the way of progress. she should get the fuck outta the way. 

more cringe worthy stuff from amy:

https://twitter.com/mediumbuying/status/1272877213155803136?s=21

 

 

So are the polls closed in Kentucky?   

They closed at 6:30 PM EDT. Looks like McGrath has about a 10% lead over Booker with ~16% of the vote in. McConnell's race looks like he'll win by a country mile, also with about 16% tallied. Lots of mail-ins to be counted though, and that won't happen for about a week.

....today's election is a DEM primary so the winner takes on Mitch in Nov and it seems like McGrath is better positioned for that task, despite the late rising of Booker. KY is not voting a progressive into the U.S Senate so be glad that/if Booker does not advance. It's simple reality, as we have discussed here to the extreme.

...was Mitch getting primary'd as well?

Yep.

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Bitch may be a larger threat to our "democracy" than chump. Both should just die and make the country better for it.

Knock off those two clowns and two more pop up in their place, and besides, I'd rather see them go to prison, where they'd have to suffer for a while.

I voted for Booker.

 

Will vote for McGrath in Nov if she's on the ballot.

>>>>>I voted for Booker.

 

You're probably the only one. Two other zoner Kentuckians pledged their support for the white candidate because the majority is supporting the white candidate. 

I donated to McGrath's campaign because she has a better shot at beating Moscow Mitch. 

Too bad Booker's campaign didn't take off sooner. Recent events propelled him nicely.    

Wow. Just looked, and the latest poll had him up 44-36. Judge just turned down his request to keep the polls open though. 

They should just make bourbon 

booker is going to win. 

neoliberal scum lost. 

<<<>>>You're probably the only one. Two other zoner Kentuckians pledged their support for the white candidate because the majority is supporting the white candidate.

one zoner even has their offspring working for the white neoliberal (really a trumper) dem down there -- he was also all in for joe "just shoot them in the leg" biden. 

bless bernie for endorsing fierce progressive candidates of color. 

So can I get a ride on your time machine. Results won't be posted until the June 30th as they count mail in ballots. Right now Amy 45% Booker 37%

There are still a lot of votes to be counted in Kentucky, but the percentage that really matters--the share of total votes cast--has McConnell with about 48% and McGrath with about 20% as of this morning. That said, a lot can happen between now and November.

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Hopefully! !

Jim Carey's latest!

"It’s comin’ Mitch! Soon all greedy garden pests and political invertebrates will be mowed down. Your Senatorial infestation ends in 2020."

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Since heater predicts Booker winning we should all know this means McGrath wins. 

^haha. 

most likely. 


Still a ways to go...

Fuck chuck schumer and his endorsement for mcgrath 

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schumer and pelosi are scum. 

the people who donated/worked for/support mcgrath/type dems, are the problem w/ the democrat party. 

41 mil to almost 1 mil. 

stupid. 

Well, well.  

<<the people who donated/worked for/support mcgrath/type dems, are the problem w/ the democrat party. 

lolol

"the people who donated/worked for/support mcgrath/type dems, are the problem w/ the democrat party."

I agree ogkb.

Hey JR, how's your sister?

Where'd those people in Kentucky learn to count? One, and another, and another.... No wonder Mitch looks like a turtle. SLOW.  17% of the vote counted 6 days after the election? 

>>>>17% of the vote counted 6 days after the election?

If this primary season is any indication, tallying the results for the general election in November will make the 2000 Florida recount look like the Evelyn Wood School of Speed-Reading. 

I know it's a mess and unacceptable in so many ways but didn't they commit to having a final count by tomorrow/30th?

That '17% tally counted' has not changed since the day after the primary, right?

Amy is the declared winner with 44.9% compared to Booker's 43.6% - which wound up being closer than I thought it might be.

Yikes! Eliot Engel, longtime DEM US House Rep for NY 4th, lost in the primary too. Look out, Schumer?!? 

Voters surely seem to be "reacting" anyway.

Steve King, IA 4th for U.S. House, defeated as well. Good Riddance!

If Engel didn’t have a primary, he wouldn’t care

 

Yea Joe, that certainly didn't help but he also probably deserved to lose for that "hot mic" comment alone. They all need to be reminded by voters that those jobs and positions are temporary too. This career-long BS needs to stop.

Let's all rally around Amy McGrath and congratulate her on a big primary win!

We'll see how she does against Mitch leading up to November. I really hope she can pull it off but keep it in mind that ConDon is apparently more popular in KY than Mitch the enabler.

LOL Booker was depheater'd.

<<LOL Booker was depheater'd.

i've been keeping a running tally.  both timpster and pheath = 2-37 in the last 6 months. keep up the good work boys! haha

good afternoon my centrist phriends.

Hola Tortuga.

 

consistency is an important strength of one's character, JR. 

being dead fucking wrong about politics on the regular happens to be too

do any of you ever wake up and just wonder what the world we be like if Hillary R Clinton was in charge. it makes me feel like crying sometimes. the only thing that would make it a little better is if Biden picks Susan Rice as VP..and for the record, Biden is running the most progressive campaign and will lead the most modern progressive platform in our nation's history.  his presidency is going to surprise all the naysayers that he's not up for the job, and end up as one of the most transformational and feel good stories ever. period. 

<<being dead fucking wrong about politics on the regular happens to be too

example please?

I was being sarcastic about that particular strength, JR.  my bad (insert sad face here)

what did hill-dawg say to bj billy when he told her he was gonna go down to the island for the weekend with his pal Jeffery?

 

 

<<what did hill-dawg say to bj billy when he told her he was gonna go down to the island for the weekend with his pal Jeffery?

billy was supposed to be on a girl scouts camp-out that weekend up in the Poconos with chelse-dog, but bailed on it last minute. billy never said anything to hillary and used their safe word "play" when she asked what he was up to. 

Just wow:

McConnell said eliminating the legislative filibuster by reducing the 60-vote threshold for passing bills to a simple majority would be a serious mistake.

“The important thing for our Democratic friends to remember is that you may not be in total control in the future, and anytime you start fiddling around with the rules of the Senate, I think you always need to put yourself in the other fellow’s shoes and just imagine what might happen when the wind shifts,”

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/505300-mcconnell-warns-democrats-not...

JR couldn't even point out Kentucky on a map of the US if he had to. Ned thinks the whole country is like California and still believes that Hildawg won the election. You guys are super savvy with politics braj. Ned also like the cheap shoes on clearance at DSW shoe stores. TC

derpheater is the new psychobabble

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haha. i like booker -- seems like a genuine human. too bad he lost. 

couple things -- rrg is still a drunk horse dick wannabe cowboy. 

and ned, cheering for republicans on an acid head site will always be funny. 

i mean, you say i'm the loser but you're the one supporting and having your kids work for trump democrats and corporate whores

thats just sad.

ill continue on my losing streak tho, supporting humans who want to help others. lol. . 

 

when do we go back to war next?

centrists like ned are why we can't have anything nice. 

Regime change in Venezuela, turtle. We'll have the top minds making sure it goes smooth. Rage Against the Machine will play the after party, with Flavor Flav as their special guest. 

Is Unrequited hate something nice ?

psychobabble or an insightful koan ?

Is droning the shit out of Syria considered a war or do we still refer to that as a "conflict"? 
 

not that any boomer folks on here care. People on here up in arms about someone winning a meaningless primary in Kentucky lol. 
 

Ned still insecure about his cheapness. Maybe you'll be able to admit it to yourself someday, guy

Both you and pheater seem to focus in on me like I'm the problem. All I have done is make observations and (correct) predictions of what the voters will do. For some reason you twist the results in to personal jabs at me. I understand the need to have a foil, and will gladly accept this role. The good news is I don't take these jabs personally, and would buy the first round for either of you. What I don't understand is why you keep trying to project wildly inaccurate assumptions about me....have fun, I guess?

lol ned. 

alll we have to do is go back into those bernie threads to reread the nonsense you posted. 

There were Bernie threads?

The threads where I was right and you were wrong? Go for it.

Did I read correctly last week when Timpane said that he never backed Bernie for any office, and sarcastically commented on how Bernie took money for a race he could never win?

This is why it was important for Amy to win. 

Karl Rove's SuperPAC is going into :checks notes: Kentucky for McConnell??

#KYSen: One Nation is booking TV ad schedules for the month of August. 8/4-8/31 flight dates SLF-affiliated group Keep Kentucky Great had already made future reservations for 9/8 through Election Day

No you did not read that correctly, Brian K. You've probably misread many things on the zone and that explains some of your posts. I said I no longer support him for any kind of political office. I did. Ned, the fact that you can't admit your wrongs is your own problem. Maybe try and seek help for that. 
 

I still like Bernie's ideas and give him credit for trying. 

I remember those exact same words, Brian K. Nobody wants to hitch their wagon to a loser so it makes sense why timpy is now backpedaling. 

Lol, sounds like you guys have more invested in what I say on the zone than I do. Have fun riding my dick into the sunset. 

Lol at responding to a week old post/question of clarification with a personal attack. Who is riding whose dick?

 

You, JR and Ned all ride my dick to the promise land. Pyramid and I have started a following of bored old guys. Kinda creepy.

 

i didn't personally attack you at all. I said you misread my post because you did. Like I said, I don't have much invested in this place. I might not even see your next post for like two weeks. I don't have anything against you Bk or the other two. 

Sure thing, boss.

i've always stated i'm used to being on the losing team. 

Pyramid and I   Blah blah blah .....delusional???

lol.   Anyway, speaking of dick you tasteless perv

do you think Moscow Mitch takes out his false teeth for better results when he is accompanied by young male escorts?

Pyramid and I   Blah blah blah .....delusional???

lol.   Anyway, speaking of dick you tasteless perv

do you think Moscow Mitch takes out his false teeth for better results when he is accompanied by young male escorts?

Worth sayin' twice I guess....

go Bernie   I get it   I support most all ot the progressive ideas and driving progress to a better place 

and yes I care deeply that trump gets kicked to the curb (and pays for his selfish atrocities with big karmic payback)

purifying the senate and the White House are PARAMOUNT!

 

And by the way,  supporting sleepy joe is not shitting on all those things turtle    Or does it make you a filthy centrist IMHO

And it is just not that black or white only / simplistic

shades of gray  baby   Just move towards the light  and evolution and health

 

biden doesn't support legalizing cannabis. 

this is a criminal justice issue, a social justice issue. 

horrible. biden doesn't care about anything other than keeping his masters happy. just like trump. 

nothing will fundamentally change under biden -- those are his exact words. but youll feel better, and the super rich will get even richer, and the poor poorer. 

 

>> nothing will fundamentally change under biden <<

If you don't see replacing Trump with Biden as a fundamental change I don't know what to tell you.

lol, that's not called fundamental change ned. it's called pointing the titanic towards an iceberg that's further away...

<<Like I said, I don't have much invested in this place. 

Sounds similar to the old tried and true zone saying, "I don't come around here much anymore". 

 

<<biden doesn't support legalizing cannabis.

which is probably so he doesn't alienate white suburban voters. just like obama didn't support gay marriage early on, but moved his position, so will Joe with weed after 4 years.  

I do not see ole Joe seriously moving on Cannabis or any other "progressive" issue(s) unless he absolutely has to budge. Joe is running circles around tRump in 'the suburbs' so that should not really be a worry for him. The trouble is HIM and he seems to be fishing for a VP whom would not try to pull him in such a direction either. Canna, for example, has been polling increasingly strong over several years, particularly Medical, and his comeback when pressed on it during the primaries was something along the lines of, "Yes, we need to go after the dealers." The guy is out of touch and that is unlikely to change. He is not any type of savior or transformative political figure. He is only in a lucky spot and very popular when compared to the basic shit stain alternative in the current cycle.

Totally agree.

Looks like bernie is ridin with biden

Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders Deepen Their Cooperation

Allies of the onetime presidential rivals revealed a long list of policy proposals. Most were widely acceptable to liberals, and some were broader than Mr. Biden’s plans during the primary campaign.

Allies of Joseph R. Biden Jr. and Senator Bernie Sanders unveiled a sweeping set of joint policy recommendations on Wednesday, a significant if tentative sign of cooperation among Democrats as Mr. Biden’s campaign continues its appeals to the progressive left.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/08/us/politics/biden-bernie-sanders.html

 

Bernie is no dumbie. This is a very positive step and shows some creative and critical thinking. Biden is sort of a dumbie so he was smart to go along with the blueprint and show some semblance of cohesion, even if a bit coerced. Defeating tRump will take positive moves like this even though, clearly, nobody gets exactly what or everything that they want. Baby steps or incremental change is still change or at least a movement in a more positive direction, TOGETHER. 

I think that article shows that a Biden is no dummie. He went to Bernie. He built the task-forces. He approved the policy recommendations on it out of them. He moved many of his policies to the left. I also guess that it isn't just lip service, and those will become his policies.

100% lip service -- all fake, just vote for biden who represents mega corporations, b/c trump -- we'll take the left for granted b/c trump 

no m4a, gnd, jobs, cannabis, the list goes on. we'll cover all of this next election, we just need to beat the republicans now. nope. not this time. represent what the people want, earn that vote, or you don't get the vote. very simple. 

man bernie bending over backwards for biden, w/ literally nothing to show, is sad. 

incrementalism doesn't work, it's why we are where we are. 

he's already lining up the signing of the TPP. so funny. 

the bar is now so dangerously low, that biden doesn't have to move on anything his DNC and corporate masters don't want him to. 

biden wants you to have the "right" to choose a private insurance plan, lol, but doesn't want people to have the human right to honest healthcare. 

during a pandemic. 

and centrists are all like, he's the best man for the job. 

its actually disgusting. 

Not best, just better.

no. centrists and the corporate media have been playing up biden as the best to take on trump this entire time. 

we knows he's nowhere near best or better -- he's just the right guy to make the old white people feel safe for a little longer, the rich feel safe for another run, etc etc. 

just like trump. 

So am I to understand that you're now souring on lord Bernie?

 Btw heat

i like you too. I just need to calm down some and react less to many of your posts .. and I must say that you are faithful and  "true to your school"

I completely agree with you Pyramid. It's pretty funny that the neolibs think Biden's health care "concession" is acceptable to progressive voters.

the "dry-humpin" of progressive voters...

I think most sane Americans will be pretty pissed off if Trump gets another four years because the "progressives" are too pure to hold their noses and vote for Biden.

Progressives don't get Elizabeth Warren as VP a percentage of them will not vote & cost Biden 3%-9% off his lead. Running the centrist playbook from 2016 stepping on progressives throats cost us one election already!

Exactly, Nugs, but because Biden is Biden, he will have great difficulty getting on board with that. Here's hoping anyway. This is a binary choice for voters, the primaries are finished, and this is the "choice" we have to make.

Centrists hold your own noses your political carcass is dying not ours. Biden camp owes its ass to Warren for not endorsing Bernie.

Asking us to hold our noses instead of working with us. Good luck playing with fire kids!

pick Warren we need this election for redistricting purposes.
 

I do not want to argue but are you confirming that you are 'out' (not voting for him) if he does not end up with Warren as VP, despite the areas of necessary attention that you referenced?

In my view and perspective, Warren's likely best chances of being in any potential Biden administration would probably be leading Treasury or Education.

>the "progressives" are too pure to hold their noses and vote for Biden.<

have held my nose  in almost every single election in my life...

anyhoo...

its not us "costal liberal elites" you need to worry or convince...

once again, you need to be worrying about the voters in the contested/swing/shithole states.

what is it about "you people" that don't get that?

 

ps. love ya surf.

Yes - Even Biden knows that and has focused on that small grip of swing states...while tRump is stunningly spending large sums in GOP-safe places on top of the newly minted "swing states" of AZ, GA, and possibly TX and problematic Senate seats in CO, NC, and KS. tRump is stupid, stubborn, and/or not listening to the advice for which he is also paying obscenely big money. Likely all 3 and then some.

Maybe

Voting against republicans gets old.

If you want us progressives to help you win the war against the republicans ask for our help don't fucking demand it in a or else scenario. 

 

I completely get that but please save your rage to unleash when and upon whom it matters most. I feel similarly, especially in regard to Ole Joe Biden....but maybe it's easier for me to simply vote against tRump because he is such a complete hazzard and pile of shit.

I seem to recall Biden already stating that he'd only serve one term so his VP pic should be super solid with good prospects for at least 2 more cycles and, yes, I would also much prefer a progressive in that role. Our system is tarnished and corrupted but not unsalvageable. 

World is getting crazy:

Ann Coulter @AnnCoulter

The lovely Amy McGrath is a Marine Corps veteran. The average donation to her campaign is $36. Mitch McConnell is a broken-down old man owed by cheap labor lobbyists. #DefeatMcConnell

>>which is probably so he doesn't alienate white suburban voters. just like obama didn't support gay marriage early on, but moved his position, so will Joe with weed after 4 years. <<
 

I believe VP sleepy joe actually got out in front of gay marriage before Barack Obama. Caught the boss somewhat flat footed on the issue if I remember correctly. 
 

Obama repealing don't ask don't tell was fairly huge.

 

 

Demand it

 

lol.   Not

tantrums ain't gonna help you peeps

 

hey kids.  Is Bernie now a traitor ?

 

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/bernie-joint-task-force-policies-will...

Joe does appear to be getting pulled left by other Democrats on Cannabis issues, albeit in a conservative, baby step, election-year kind of way:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-presidency-mean-cannabis-stocks-2127443...

Given that tRump would appear to do ANYTHING to get re-elected, I wonder if he'll feel desperate enough to go for it and try for fed descheduling, decriminalization, widespread medical, or full legalization. I know it seems to be popular enough but would that be enough for folks to vote for him whom otherwise would not? Single or narrow-issue voters are interesting but, for me, that would still be a resounding NO.

Fuck Moscow Mitch!

FRANKFORT, KY—In an effort to ensure every last cent of the raised $84 million was put to good use, defeated Democratic Senate candidate Amy McGrath reportedly blew her remaining campaign funds Wednesday on a lavish concession bonanza. “We may not have beat Mitch McConnell last night, but this grassroots movement isn’t finished—we’re taking it to Dubai, Monaco, and hitting up the casinos in Singapore,” said McGrath, who reminded the crowd not to forget to pick up their Fabergé egg gift bags near the front gate between the second dolphin pool and Kylie Jenner selfie station. “I’d be nothing without my amazing team of staff, volunteers, the Bengal tiger trainers, Madonna, and the dozens of Playboy bunnies passing out Dom Pérignon. And of course, above all else, I’d like to thank my family and U2, who were very expensive to book and fly in privately so be sure to check them out after the Blue Angels show.” At press time, McGrath had peeled away from the blowout in a brand-new yellow Bugatti as $2 million worth of fireworks spelling out ‘Resist!’ exploded in the sky.

 

Got to love The Onion Ken!

Watch out, tomorrow it may be the leading story in the NY Post!

Booker should've been the candidate run against McConnell, but the DNC threw it's support towards the candidate they thought would tempt republicans to switch teams instead.

DSCC does Senate races, not DNC. Booker might've managed another point, maybe, but still would've lost badly. It's a federal race in Kentucky -- the problem is not the name, it's the D next to the name.

^ except KY did vote in a Dem Governor. But the previous GOPer was a POS.

I said federal races for a reason

Well, Sam, I'm saying a Dem won a statewide race versus a Dem winning the historically Dem districts in Louisville and Lexington.

But, I get what you're saying.