I saw them in 1984 at Carmichael in Chapel Hill, it was really good. London Calling is played in my house fairly regularly. I also like Phish, not sure if they are played more or not...
Mick Jones has said that Mott The Hoople was an influence, and John Mellor (aka Joe Strummer) started out as a London subway busker singing Folk protest songs, influenced by the likes of Woody Guthrie. Later, after they had formed, The Clash were influenced by the Jamaican Reggae scene ("White Man In Hammersmith Palais", "Bankrobber") and the emerging New York City Hip Hop culture.
Of course, they were hugely influenced by the Sex Pistols too:
In February (1976), Jones saw the Sex Pistols perform for the first time: "You knew straight away that was it, and this was what it was going to be like from now on. It was a new scene, new values—so different from what had happened before. A bit dangerous."
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The band was still searching for a lead singer. Chimes recalls one Billy Watts (who "seemed to be, like, nineteen or eighteen then, as we all were") handling the duties for a time.[12] Rhodes had his eye on Strummer, with whom he made exploratory contact. Jones and Levene had both seen him perform and were impressed as well.[13] Strummer, for his part, was primed to make the switch. In April, he had taken in the opening act for one of his band's gigs—the Sex Pistols. Strummer later explained:
I knew something was up, so I went out in the crowd which was fairly sparse. And I saw the future—with a snotty handkerchief—right in front of me. It was immediately clear. Pub rock was, "Hello, you bunch of drunks, I'm gonna play these boogies and I hope you like them." The Pistols came out that Tuesday evening and their attitude was, "Here's our tunes, and we couldn't give a flying fuck whether you like them or not. In fact, we're gonna play them even if you fucking hate them."[14]
On 30 May, Rhodes and Levene met surreptitiously with Strummer after a 101'ers gig. Strummer was invited to meet up at the band's rehearsal location on Davis Road. After Strummer turned up, Levene grabbed his guitar, stood several inches away from Strummer, looked him in the eye and then began playing "Keys to Your Heart", one of Strummer's own tunes.[15]
Rhodes gave him 48 hours to decide whether he wanted to join the new band that would "rival the Pistols". Within 24 hours, Strummer agreed.[16] Simonon later remarked, "Once we had Joe on board it all started to come together."[10] Strummer introduced the band to his old school friend Pablo LaBritain, who sat in on drums during Strummer's first few rehearsals with the group. LaBritain's stint with the band did not last long (he subsequently joined 999), and Terry Chimes—whom Jones later referred to as "one of the best drummers" in their circle—became the band's regular drummer.[17] In Westway to the World, Jones also says, "I don't think Terry was officially hired or anything. He had just been playing with us."[18] Chimes did not take to Strummer at first: "He was like twenty-two or twenty-three or something that seemed 'old' to me then. And he had these retro clothes and this croaky voice".[12] Simonon came up with the band's name after they had briefly dubbed themselves the Weak Heartdrops and the Psychotic Negatives.[19][20] He later explained the name's origin: "It really came to my head when I started reading the newspapers and a word that kept recurring was the word 'clash', so I thought 'the Clash, what about that,' to the others. And they and Bernard, they went for it."[19]
I regret never seeing them, although I did get to see Joe Strummer and the Mescaleros at the old Tower Records on Sunset Blvd. in Hollywood and shake Joe's hand after the show and get his autograph. I wrote an article about Sandinista for my high school's newspaper, and turned a bunch of my friends, schoolmates and football teammates onto them.
That's great that you saw them at the US Festival, Jill. That was Mick Jones' final show with them.
Sept 28, 1979 Clark University. Actually took place at the much smaller Atwood Hall -- not the Student Activities Center.
"The riot cops were 3 deep outside the hall expecting trouble and local punks were not let in. Tickets were over sold and bottles were thrown in anger with a few resulting arrests. However when the band arrived Joe insisted on talking to the student organiser and chief cop, “if they don’t get in we don’t play”. Result; the fans outside were let in and allowed to watch from the lobby, later Joe dedicated Clash City Rockers to them."
Remember seeing a few spiked Mohawk punk rockers at GD shows circa 1985-86 right before the Mega-Dead years. Some of the Heads bagged on them, but I always felt they embodied the "think for yourself" ethos more than most. They didn't feel the need to conform to the Dead scene by wearing hippie garb, and rose above the critics in the Punk scene who thought the Dead scene was for dinosaurs. True non-conformists who liked their psychedelics.
True non-conformists who liked their psychedelics.
Or abhorred them for themselves but didn't feel the need to judge others on their self expression. I have always found the punk scene to be the most accepting of all. Way more than the supposed hippie ethos of acceptance.
New York gets owned by a lot of bands.
Not like The Clash did that summer. To this day, the Bond's run has been the "only let's beat the scalpers down," tactic that worked. They kept adding shows until everyone got in to see a show. The ticket scalpers took a bath on every show except the first one. After the word got out about what The Clash felt about anyone scalping tickets to these shows and what they had done about it, groups of people with extras surrounded scalpers and took away their customers. It was funny to see early in the run and by the end, the pros didn't bother to show up at all.
Worked w P and H at whcn...when concert kid waz there....and the short careered sports guy....said fck on the air calling in from red sox sping training camp...first year Sox were in Fort Meyers....thought i was gonna get fired...Picozzi told me to hang up and call back...start call all over...lol...when i got home a week later...nervous as hell...it just ended up gettin me more airtime...lol
Heard the album Sandinista when it was 1st released in it's entirety while semi-passed out both drunk & tripping @ a house party in college (early '81 I think), that album turned my head around about punk (previously had no regard for it at all "Greil Marcus kept telling me it was 'supposed to be about the Teenage Anger I was Supposed to Have'"). Still like that album to this day, it's so weird, bizarre, all over the place. I recall years ago on the old Zone annoying Jeff Duke by saying this was the only Clash album I really liked, he, as is the case w/most hardcore Clash fans, considered it to be their Weakest album. I'm pretty Bored by all their other offerings, energetic but all sounds the same to me.
I believe it went Clash>Santana>The Who (I'm gonna guess The Hooters slipped in there, too).
I think it's funny watching everyone gush about The Clash these days. I remeber them being a quirky MTV act in the early 80's. Now it's "cool" to be a Clash fan, but most probably never heard anything past Combat Rock/Casbah back in the day.
Black Market Clash album turned me into a fan, and that was in the 90's.
Heard the album Sandinista when it was 1st released in it's entirety while semi-passed out both drunk & tripping @ a house party in college (early '81 I think), that album turned my head around about punk (previously had no regard for it at all "Greil Marcus kept telling me it was 'supposed to be about the Teenage Anger I was Supposed to Have'").
It is almost a given that a triple album will be all over the place and not be easily categorized. Sandanista fits that bill. Some of it I love. Some of it still has me scratching my head.
But Sandanista can't be separated in my mind from an incident involving my brother. One the things that I am most proud of is exposing my younger brother to a large selection of music as he grew into and beyond his teenage years. In short order he was searching out different sounds than his peer group did and The Clash was one of those bands. After he graduated college and move to Florida, he would still get on the phone with me to hear what I thought was good music. He also used me as a sounding board about various women he was chasing. One of these women was a Nicaraguan woman that he described as one of the most beautiful women he had ever seen. She came from a family that was obviously pretty well off and didn't respond to his young guy moves. My brother needed to learn some smoother moves in order to have a shot at her and I gave him a few pointers and suggestions. She finally agreed to a date and I got a call from the restaurant he took her too saying it was going quite well and she agreed to come back to his condo for a nightcap. About 2 hours later my brother called again to tell me that it all crashed to the ground because of The Clash. My brother figured that would be a great album to put on as they got comfortable. Unfortunately for him, the Sandanistas had killed her uncle and a number of cousins. I was told that she ripped my brother about 5 new assholes and, for a moment, he though she was going to dispatch him in retaliation.
All I could respond with was, "Nobody said rock and roll was going to be easy."
Listened to Clash as a Youth, but never a fanatical fan. My pals & I considered them a Punk-genre band that could actually play instruments and hire record producers.
The one and only time I attempted to puff a Lluuuuuude we crushed it up on 'London Calling' LP cover and sprinkled it upon a bong-hit of schwag. They were so popular back then !! When they switched from 'Rorer' to 'Lemmon' some of the fake ones actually spelled it 'Lemon'.
Joan Jett >>> Clash???? OUCH!!!!! For me she's right there in that "Late '70's Cheez Rock" cache' of bands that caused me to not be able to listen to commercial FM radio anymore, along w/such Luminaries as Foreigner, Boston, Cheap Trick, Van Halen, etc . . .
Altho, let's be Honest; The Clash were not exactly a Live band; After finding this Awesome Gem Talking Heads Cap Th 1980 show w/Adrian Belew:
Not exactly a live band? What constitutes a good live band then? Many of The Clash shows I saw were incendiary and left me physically and emotionally drained at the conclusion. The comparison of Talking Heads and The Clash on stage is truly an apples and oranges comparison. Talking Heads attacked your mind. The Clash attacked your gut. Both approaches are valid but completely different than each other. I saw both bands a lot. Would do just about anything to see either of them again.
You are right not in the same league. Joan Jett blows them away
This comparison is a bit more apt. Again, I've seen both bands many times. I've enjoyed both of them every time and in the case of JJ, still do. Joan Jett brings it always. I wouldn't say either is better than the other. I'm thinking that it is more of a personal preference situation. Nothing wrong with liking one band better than another great band. I am off the school of if a band has rabid fans, as Talking Heads, The Clash and Joan Jett all do, they are doing something right. That "right" may not float your boat but to negate their quality is a bit myopic.
And SS, you cant group all those acts together...(or any bands, in my mind) unless you have seen them all live...its one thing if you dont like a bands music, style, vocals, whatever...and that may stop you from then seeing them live..,just my opinion, but, until youve seen them live, your comments are just personal opinion of an album etc...
Go see the shows! Lol...im guessing you ve never seen Joan Jett w Blackhearts....live...if you have seen her, and all "grouped together" above...then, ....never mind...
Cheap Trick falls in same catagory..i could take them or leave them, but, id never miss them live (w original lineup etc)
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Love The Clash, I was on the
Love The Clash, I was on the proverbial rail
For the epic Shea Stadium show with The Who in 1982
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Love the clash.
The Clash is one of my favorite bands, but so is Phish
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Yes clash, no phish
Yes clash, no phish
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Do you like fish?
Do you like fish?
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Like Phish. Love The Clash.
Like Phish. Love The Clash.
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What fish said
What fish said
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Was at that show as well, RRG
Was at that show as well, RRG...but, not quite on rail!!
David Johanson, too
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Meh
Meh
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>>>Love The Clash, I was on
>>>Love The Clash, I was on the proverbial rail
For the epic Shea Stadium show with The Who in 1982
>>>>Was at that show as well, RRG...but, not quite on rail!!
you two are making you know who really envious. GOOD STUFF
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I was at Shea Stadium as well
I was at Shea Stadium as well. Also Bond's, The Palladium, Convention Hall, JFK Stadium ...
I might never see that level of passion on stage again.
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Bond's in Times Square was an
Bond's in Times Square was an incredible high-energy show, one I'll never forget. I always respected The Clash.
But I don't understand the comparison between The Clash and Phish, there's no connection except for they both
play music. I suppose there's some remote musical connection somewhere, but to me it's like Edgard Varese and Neil Diamond.
Who is more popular, who cares?
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I'm so bored with the USA,
I'm so bored with the USA, but what can I do?
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Like to listen to THE CLASH..
Like to listen to THE CLASH.....try to listen to PHISH..
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Love both.
Love both.
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I didn't compare the two.
I didn't compare the two.
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I saw them in 1984 at
I saw them in 1984 at Carmichael in Chapel Hill, it was really good. London Calling is played in my house fairly regularly. I also like Phish, not sure if they are played more or not...
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I didn't compare the two.
That is correct. You did not. You asked a question.
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Love 'em! Critical band in
Love 'em! Critical band in the history of Rock n' Roll!!
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Big Clash fan here - to
Big Clash fan here - to answer your title question.
I'm not sure how expressing that tells you anything about me being or not being a Phish fan though.
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good music is timeless. The
good music is timeless. The Clash were very influential. I personally think the Clash are great. The Phishies too.
London Calling would be one of my ten "lost on a deserted island" LP's
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I'm not attempting to get
I'm not attempting to get hard numbers on Phish fans. Just casually observing the reactions of zoners
chiming in during this much discussed run at MSG.
Were The Clash influenced by anyone?
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Mick Jones has said that Mott
Mick Jones has said that Mott The Hoople was an influence, and John Mellor (aka Joe Strummer) started out as a London subway busker singing Folk protest songs, influenced by the likes of Woody Guthrie. Later, after they had formed, The Clash were influenced by the Jamaican Reggae scene ("White Man In Hammersmith Palais", "Bankrobber") and the emerging New York City Hip Hop culture.
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I love the Clash!
I love the Clash!
RIP Joe Strummer.
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Paul Simonon put together a
Paul Simonon put together a list of Clash influences https://www.punknews.org/article/10590/paul-simonon-compiles-clash-influences-comp-for-05-release-on-trojan
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This thread needs some Safe
This thread needs some Safe European Home.
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Of course, they were hugely
Of course, they were hugely influenced by the Sex Pistols too:
In February (1976), Jones saw the Sex Pistols perform for the first time: "You knew straight away that was it, and this was what it was going to be like from now on. It was a new scene, new values—so different from what had happened before. A bit dangerous."
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The band was still searching for a lead singer. Chimes recalls one Billy Watts (who "seemed to be, like, nineteen or eighteen then, as we all were") handling the duties for a time.[12] Rhodes had his eye on Strummer, with whom he made exploratory contact. Jones and Levene had both seen him perform and were impressed as well.[13] Strummer, for his part, was primed to make the switch. In April, he had taken in the opening act for one of his band's gigs—the Sex Pistols. Strummer later explained:
I knew something was up, so I went out in the crowd which was fairly sparse. And I saw the future—with a snotty handkerchief—right in front of me. It was immediately clear. Pub rock was, "Hello, you bunch of drunks, I'm gonna play these boogies and I hope you like them." The Pistols came out that Tuesday evening and their attitude was, "Here's our tunes, and we couldn't give a flying fuck whether you like them or not. In fact, we're gonna play them even if you fucking hate them."[14]
On 30 May, Rhodes and Levene met surreptitiously with Strummer after a 101'ers gig. Strummer was invited to meet up at the band's rehearsal location on Davis Road. After Strummer turned up, Levene grabbed his guitar, stood several inches away from Strummer, looked him in the eye and then began playing "Keys to Your Heart", one of Strummer's own tunes.[15]
Rhodes gave him 48 hours to decide whether he wanted to join the new band that would "rival the Pistols". Within 24 hours, Strummer agreed.[16] Simonon later remarked, "Once we had Joe on board it all started to come together."[10] Strummer introduced the band to his old school friend Pablo LaBritain, who sat in on drums during Strummer's first few rehearsals with the group. LaBritain's stint with the band did not last long (he subsequently joined 999), and Terry Chimes—whom Jones later referred to as "one of the best drummers" in their circle—became the band's regular drummer.[17] In Westway to the World, Jones also says, "I don't think Terry was officially hired or anything. He had just been playing with us."[18] Chimes did not take to Strummer at first: "He was like twenty-two or twenty-three or something that seemed 'old' to me then. And he had these retro clothes and this croaky voice".[12] Simonon came up with the band's name after they had briefly dubbed themselves the Weak Heartdrops and the Psychotic Negatives.[19][20] He later explained the name's origin: "It really came to my head when I started reading the newspapers and a word that kept recurring was the word 'clash', so I thought 'the Clash, what about that,' to the others. And they and Bernard, they went for it."[19]
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I saw The Clash 3 times. The
I saw The Clash 3 times. The last time at the Pier in NYC 8/82 with reggae singer Gregory Isaacs opening.
There was a great mix of foods, herbs and very colorful NYC people.
The Clash started out their set at the top of an aircraft carrier waving hello, ready to rock it.
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Did they play anywhere else
Did they play anywhere else besides New York?
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I'd say: a bunch of us
I'd say: a bunch of us
I saw them at the 83 Us Festival
Fuck yea
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They've clearly got a strong
They've clearly got a strong age 40-50 in the Northeast demographic.
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I regret never seeing them,
I regret never seeing them, although I did get to see Joe Strummer and the Mescaleros at the old Tower Records on Sunset Blvd. in Hollywood and shake Joe's hand after the show and get his autograph. I wrote an article about Sandinista for my high school's newspaper, and turned a bunch of my friends, schoolmates and football teammates onto them.
That's great that you saw them at the US Festival, Jill. That was Mick Jones' final show with them.
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Sept 28, 1979 Clark
Sept 28, 1979 Clark University. Actually took place at the much smaller Atwood Hall -- not the Student Activities Center.
"The riot cops were 3 deep outside the hall expecting trouble and local punks were not let in. Tickets were over sold and bottles were thrown in anger with a few resulting arrests. However when the band arrived Joe insisted on talking to the student organiser and chief cop, “if they don’t get in we don’t play”. Result; the fans outside were let in and allowed to watch from the lobby, later Joe dedicated Clash City Rockers to them."
There is a tape in circulation.
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Doesn't everyone like the
Doesn't everyone like the Clash?
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Damn, Dave, did not realize.
Damn, Dave, did not realize.
I won the trip from WHCN in Hartford.
Lol, 34 years ago. Double damn
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Awsum, Alan!
Awsum, Alan!
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35 years ago...amazing
35 years ago...amazing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78PoG2qw9G4
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The Clash would rip a 150
The Clash would rip a 150 second Run Like An Antelope a new asshole
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>I won the trip from WHCN in
>I won the trip from WHCN in Hartford
Piccossi and the Horn?
Fuckers hung up on me in the middle of a trivia contest to win GD tix for the April '88 shows at the civic center.
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Clash was always fun in the
Clash was always fun in the day
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Looking for the clampdown..
Looking for the clampdown...in these days of Evil Presidente.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnliAafBYzU
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Ha! Flash from the past....
Ha! Flash from the past.... WHCN! Remember the Lych? (sp?)
And WCCC.
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Did Reagan pay them to break
Did Reagan pay them to break up?
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Remember seeing a few spiked
Remember seeing a few spiked Mohawk punk rockers at GD shows circa 1985-86 right before the Mega-Dead years. Some of the Heads bagged on them, but I always felt they embodied the "think for yourself" ethos more than most. They didn't feel the need to conform to the Dead scene by wearing hippie garb, and rose above the critics in the Punk scene who thought the Dead scene was for dinosaurs. True non-conformists who liked their psychedelics.
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NYC was in complete anarchy
NYC was in complete anarchy in the summer of 1981 when the Clash played a 17 show run at Bonds.
That was totally Radio Clash. They owned this town.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s-Z5Mn60Ok
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New York gets owned by a lot
New York gets owned by a lot of bands.
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True non-conformists who
Or abhorred them for themselves but didn't feel the need to judge others on their self expression. I have always found the punk scene to be the most accepting of all. Way more than the supposed hippie ethos of acceptance.
Not like The Clash did that summer. To this day, the Bond's run has been the "only let's beat the scalpers down," tactic that worked. They kept adding shows until everyone got in to see a show. The ticket scalpers took a bath on every show except the first one. After the word got out about what The Clash felt about anyone scalping tickets to these shows and what they had done about it, groups of people with extras surrounded scalpers and took away their customers. It was funny to see early in the run and by the end, the pros didn't bother to show up at all.
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Worked w P and H at whcn..
Worked w P and H at whcn...when concert kid waz there....and the short careered sports guy....said fck on the air calling in from red sox sping training camp...first year Sox were in Fort Meyers....thought i was gonna get fired...Picozzi told me to hang up and call back...start call all over...lol...when i got home a week later...nervous as hell...it just ended up gettin me more airtime...lol
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Saw them multiple times
Saw them multiple times including 2 shows at Bonds (one was the night the fire dept. shut it down), Shea, The Cap in Passiac, and the US Festival.
"Straight to Hell boys..."
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Its fuckin montgomery clift,
Its fuckin montgomery clift, honey...
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Live Clash related music for
Live Clash related music for the fans
https://www.vivalazone.org/other-stuff/summer-strummer-benefit-aug19th-a...
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I was at that Who show, but
I was at that Who show, but don't remember The Clash even being billed as openers. We'd have missed them, anyway, being in a traffic cluster-F.
Kinda like 'em now. Didn't care for them then.
They could play a bit better than most bands who "can't play."
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Gotta give BRUCE props for
Gotta give BRUCE props for making Clampdown one of his regular live songs a few years back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqRN7N7lH8o
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Gotta give BRUCE props for
Bruce reminds me of Joe in some respects.
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Heard the album Sandinista
Heard the album Sandinista when it was 1st released in it's entirety while semi-passed out both drunk & tripping @ a house party in college (early '81 I think), that album turned my head around about punk (previously had no regard for it at all "Greil Marcus kept telling me it was 'supposed to be about the Teenage Anger I was Supposed to Have'"). Still like that album to this day, it's so weird, bizarre, all over the place. I recall years ago on the old Zone annoying Jeff Duke by saying this was the only Clash album I really liked, he, as is the case w/most hardcore Clash fans, considered it to be their Weakest album. I'm pretty Bored by all their other offerings, energetic but all sounds the same to me.
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I was at the '82 JFK show.
I was at the '82 JFK show.
I believe it went Clash>Santana>The Who (I'm gonna guess The Hooters slipped in there, too).
I think it's funny watching everyone gush about The Clash these days. I remeber them being a quirky MTV act in the early 80's. Now it's "cool" to be a Clash fan, but most probably never heard anything past Combat Rock/Casbah back in the day.
Black Market Clash album turned me into a fan, and that was in the 90's.
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Anybody like the only band
Anybody like the only band that matters more than The Rolling Stones?
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give 'em enough rope.
give 'em enough rope.
lol, ned found them in the 90's...
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Could Joe have reminded
Could Joe have reminded people of Bruce?
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He could. Joe had a look and
He could. Joe had a look and style that seemed very similar to Bruce in the Darkness/River/Nebraska era.
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A quirky MTV act in the 80s?
A quirky MTV act in the 80s? Maybe so - but I got into them in 1977 with the songs White Riot and I'm So Bored with the USA.
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Black people got a lot of
Black people got a lot of problems but they don't mind rioting.
White people should act more oppressed and start rioting.
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Heard the album Sandinista
It is almost a given that a triple album will be all over the place and not be easily categorized. Sandanista fits that bill. Some of it I love. Some of it still has me scratching my head.
But Sandanista can't be separated in my mind from an incident involving my brother. One the things that I am most proud of is exposing my younger brother to a large selection of music as he grew into and beyond his teenage years. In short order he was searching out different sounds than his peer group did and The Clash was one of those bands. After he graduated college and move to Florida, he would still get on the phone with me to hear what I thought was good music. He also used me as a sounding board about various women he was chasing. One of these women was a Nicaraguan woman that he described as one of the most beautiful women he had ever seen. She came from a family that was obviously pretty well off and didn't respond to his young guy moves. My brother needed to learn some smoother moves in order to have a shot at her and I gave him a few pointers and suggestions. She finally agreed to a date and I got a call from the restaurant he took her too saying it was going quite well and she agreed to come back to his condo for a nightcap. About 2 hours later my brother called again to tell me that it all crashed to the ground because of The Clash. My brother figured that would be a great album to put on as they got comfortable. Unfortunately for him, the Sandanistas had killed her uncle and a number of cousins. I was told that she ripped my brother about 5 new assholes and, for a moment, he though she was going to dispatch him in retaliation.
All I could respond with was, "Nobody said rock and roll was going to be easy."
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I guess it's time to share my
I guess it's time to share my favorite Clash song and it was single only release until one of the hit comps, Bankrobber.
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^^wtf, rider??
^^wtf, rider??
I was literally coming on here to post "45"...lol...thats freakin scary....
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2017 Joan Jett & the Black
2017 Joan Jett & the Black Hearts, blew away the 3 Clash shows I saw in 1982. Not even close.
You never know who's able to pull it off and take it to the next level live. Sometimes recordings don't do the artists justice.
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I have some Clash on vinyl...
I have some Clash on vinyl...
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Listened to Clash as a Youth,
Listened to Clash as a Youth, but never a fanatical fan. My pals & I considered them a Punk-genre band that could actually play instruments and hire record producers.
The one and only time I attempted to puff a Lluuuuuude we crushed it up on 'London Calling' LP cover and sprinkled it upon a bong-hit of schwag. They were so popular back then !! When they switched from 'Rorer' to 'Lemmon' some of the fake ones actually spelled it 'Lemon'.
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Joan Jett >>> Clash???? OUCH!
Joan Jett >>> Clash???? OUCH!!!!! For me she's right there in that "Late '70's Cheez Rock" cache' of bands that caused me to not be able to listen to commercial FM radio anymore, along w/such Luminaries as Foreigner, Boston, Cheap Trick, Van Halen, etc . . .
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Altho, let's be Honest; The
Altho, let's be Honest; The Clash were not exactly a Live band; After finding this Awesome Gem Talking Heads Cap Th 1980 show w/Adrian Belew:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-_PC6TlIhs&t=922s
I then found this Clash Cap Th show from the same year (1980):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLKl6FIBH0U
Sorry, but simply no comparison whatsoever . . .
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You are right not in the same league. Joan Jett blows them away
I saw the Clash 4 times and have all of their albums, it's not even close, by a mile. Watch the Clash videos for your self.
Joan Jett & the Black Hearts 2015
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie1kkByfE4I
^Watch that
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Altho, let's be Honest; The
Not exactly a live band? What constitutes a good live band then? Many of The Clash shows I saw were incendiary and left me physically and emotionally drained at the conclusion. The comparison of Talking Heads and The Clash on stage is truly an apples and oranges comparison. Talking Heads attacked your mind. The Clash attacked your gut. Both approaches are valid but completely different than each other. I saw both bands a lot. Would do just about anything to see either of them again.
This comparison is a bit more apt. Again, I've seen both bands many times. I've enjoyed both of them every time and in the case of JJ, still do. Joan Jett brings it always. I wouldn't say either is better than the other. I'm thinking that it is more of a personal preference situation. Nothing wrong with liking one band better than another great band. I am off the school of if a band has rabid fans, as Talking Heads, The Clash and Joan Jett all do, they are doing something right. That "right" may not float your boat but to negate their quality is a bit myopic.
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^spot on
^spot on
And SS, you cant group all those acts together...(or any bands, in my mind) unless you have seen them all live...its one thing if you dont like a bands music, style, vocals, whatever...and that may stop you from then seeing them live..,just my opinion, but, until youve seen them live, your comments are just personal opinion of an album etc...
Go see the shows! Lol...im guessing you ve never seen Joan Jett w Blackhearts....live...if you have seen her, and all "grouped together" above...then, ....never mind...
Cheap Trick falls in same catagory..i could take them or leave them, but, id never miss them live (w original lineup etc)
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this thread delivers big on
this thread delivers big on the lols
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Why did they go soft during
Why did they go soft during the Reagan era?
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Were The Kinks the only band
Were The Kinks the only band that matters?
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>this thread delivers big on
>this thread delivers big on the lols
lol
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https://vivalazone.org/other
https://vivalazone.org/other-stuff/sandinista
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I like the clash!
I like the clash!
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They've clearly got a strong
They've clearly got a strong age 40-50 in the Northeast demographic.
Or anyone who likes great music, I'm older than that demographic and am a fan first I first heard them