Yep. Roberts is shaping up to be the new justice Kennedy style swing vote on the bench. Don't always agree with him but good to see him be able to put reasoned jurisprudence over partisan loyalty.
Roberts will more often sde with the conservative majority.
This is why electing Biden is so very important. The next President, Biden or another Trump term, will get one or two Supreme Court appointments. A second Trump term will mean a 6-3/7-2 conservative majority for a generation.
This is why choosing the lesser evil is important.
>>This is why choosing the lesser evil is important.
That right there should be enough for any sane voter to understand. It won't be - for your average message board loud mouth Bernie Bro - but it should be.
The thing about Roberts is that on occasion he gets that this is "his" court and he gets that history will note that - so sometimes he HAS to do the right thing. At least he gets that.
If people really want to get rid of the Electoral College, the big push will have to be based on data. If people, en masse, vote for the least shitty candidate, there's better data to support a Constitutional amendment.
It's one thing to win the popular vote by 3 million and lose in the EC. It's another thing to lose the popular by over 10 million and lose.
>>Is it sane to know your vote doesn't matter in some places so you can vote for a third candidate?
Although I sometimes wonder if you even care about an answer - the answer is yes and no. It's not that your vote does not matter - it just does not matter much in the general scheme of the election. Your vote should at least have meaning for you anyway - and the office of President is the perhaps the only one where your vote is like this. Every other election on your ballot (for state level offcies) should hold importance.
I don't see it going anywhere either, Lumber. In fact, if it had done its job in 2016 we wouldn't have Trump.The EC was put in place as a safeguard against a populist like him.
Not sure that's true, Pheater, that people think he's the "only" problem. Over the last few years I've seen most in this thread outline other problems, as they see them. Most agree that the 2 party system is a problem, and that the Electoral College also is.
Lindsey Graham understands the importance of the courts
Graham urges older judges to retire so GOP can fill openings
WASHINGTON — Lindsey Graham, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, is publicly urging federal judges in their mid-60s or older to step aside so President Donald Trump and Senate Republicans can fill the vacancies with conservative jurists.
This is an historic opportunity,” Graham said. “We’ve put (nearly) 200 federal judges on the bench. ... If you can get four more years, I mean, it would change the judiciary for several generations. So if you’re a circuit judge in your mid-60s, late 60s, you can take senior status. Now would be a good time to do that, if you want to make sure the judiciary is right of center.”
Graham’s committee is set to vote next week on Judge Justin Walker, a 37-year-old protege of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell who has been nominated to the nation’s second-most powerful court. If confirmed, Walker would take an appeals court seat being vacated by Judge Thomas Griffith, who intends to retire in September. The Judiciary Committee also is considering 49-year-old Cory Wilson, a Mississippi judge who has been nominated to a seat on the New Orleans-based 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
Asked by Hewitt if he can assure veteran judges that their successor “will indeed be confirmed before the election,” Graham said, “Well, if you wait, you know, (until) November the 1st, no. So do it now.’’
Lindsey Graham understands the importance of the courts
Graham urges older judges to retire so GOP can fill openings
WASHINGTON — Lindsey Graham, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, is publicly urging federal judges in their mid-60s or older to step aside so President Donald Trump and Senate Republicans can fill the vacancies with conservative jurists.
This is an historic opportunity,” Graham said. “We’ve put (nearly) 200 federal judges on the bench. ... If you can get four more years, I mean, it would change the judiciary for several generations. So if you’re a circuit judge in your mid-60s, late 60s, you can take senior status. Now would be a good time to do that, if you want to make sure the judiciary is right of center.”
Graham’s committee is set to vote next week on Judge Justin Walker, a 37-year-old protege of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell who has been nominated to the nation’s second-most powerful court. If confirmed, Walker would take an appeals court seat being vacated by Judge Thomas Griffith, who intends to retire in September. The Judiciary Committee also is considering 49-year-old Cory Wilson, a Mississippi judge who has been nominated to a seat on the New Orleans-based 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
Asked by Hewitt if he can assure veteran judges that their successor “will indeed be confirmed before the election,” Graham said, “Well, if you wait, you know, (until) November the 1st, no. So do it now.’’
This is an historic opportunity,” Graham said. “We’ve put (nearly) 200 federal judges on the bench. ... If you can get four more years, I mean, it would change the judiciary for several generations
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on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 08:46 am
Yep. Roberts is shaping up
Yep. Roberts is shaping up to be the new justice Kennedy style swing vote on the bench. Don't always agree with him but good to see him be able to put reasoned jurisprudence over partisan loyalty.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 09:03 am
Roberts will more often sde with the conservative majority.
This is why electing Biden is so very important. The next President, Biden or another Trump term, will get one or two Supreme Court appointments. A second Trump term will mean a 6-3/7-2 conservative majority for a generation.
This is why choosing the lesser evil is important.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 09:14 am
>>This is why choosing the
>>This is why choosing the lesser evil is important.
That right there should be enough for any sane voter to understand. It won't be - for your average message board loud mouth Bernie Bro - but it should be.
The thing about Roberts is that on occasion he gets that this is "his" court and he gets that history will note that - so sometimes he HAS to do the right thing. At least he gets that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 09:18 am
Is it sane to know your vote
Is it sane to know your vote doesn't matter in some places so you can vote for a third candidate?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 09:24 am
If people really want to get
If people really want to get rid of the Electoral College, the big push will have to be based on data. If people, en masse, vote for the least shitty candidate, there's better data to support a Constitutional amendment.
It's one thing to win the popular vote by 3 million and lose in the EC. It's another thing to lose the popular by over 10 million and lose.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 09:27 am
^though I agree with the logic of your post, BK, the electoral college isn't going anywhere, IMO
Yes, Slack, I see little issue with that.
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on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 09:28 am
>>Is it sane to know your
>>Is it sane to know your vote doesn't matter in some places so you can vote for a third candidate?
Although I sometimes wonder if you even care about an answer - the answer is yes and no. It's not that your vote does not matter - it just does not matter much in the general scheme of the election. Your vote should at least have meaning for you anyway - and the office of President is the perhaps the only one where your vote is like this. Every other election on your ballot (for state level offcies) should hold importance.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 09:31 am
I don't see it going anywhere
I don't see it going anywhere either, Lumber. In fact, if it had done its job in 2016 we wouldn't have Trump.The EC was put in place as a safeguard against a populist like him.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 09:34 am
>>>>>Is it sane to know your
>>>>>Is it sane to know your vote doesn't matter in some places so you can vote for a third candidate?
It may be sane but it's stupid.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 09:38 am
Surf lives in western Oregon.
Surf lives in western Oregon. He's the change we need.
Did your town riot, surf? What did the minorities do? Loot?
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on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 09:47 am
No riots here. In Eugene it
No riots here. In Eugene it was mostly white, out of towners who did most of the destruction.and looting.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 10:19 am
lots of people up in here
lots of people up in here think trump is the only problem, and that voting him out will change all of this.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 10:28 am
Not sure that's true, Pheater
Not sure that's true, Pheater, that people think he's the "only" problem. Over the last few years I've seen most in this thread outline other problems, as they see them. Most agree that the 2 party system is a problem, and that the Electoral College also is.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 10:29 am
^lno, Pyramid, but allowing him a second term would be disastrous.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 10:47 am
Lindsey Graham understands the importance of the courts
Graham urges older judges to retire so GOP can fill openings
WASHINGTON — Lindsey Graham, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, is publicly urging federal judges in their mid-60s or older to step aside so President Donald Trump and Senate Republicans can fill the vacancies with conservative jurists.
This is an historic opportunity,” Graham said. “We’ve put (nearly) 200 federal judges on the bench. ... If you can get four more years, I mean, it would change the judiciary for several generations. So if you’re a circuit judge in your mid-60s, late 60s, you can take senior status. Now would be a good time to do that, if you want to make sure the judiciary is right of center.”
Graham’s committee is set to vote next week on Judge Justin Walker, a 37-year-old protege of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell who has been nominated to the nation’s second-most powerful court. If confirmed, Walker would take an appeals court seat being vacated by Judge Thomas Griffith, who intends to retire in September. The Judiciary Committee also is considering 49-year-old Cory Wilson, a Mississippi judge who has been nominated to a seat on the New Orleans-based 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
Asked by Hewitt if he can assure veteran judges that their successor “will indeed be confirmed before the election,” Graham said, “Well, if you wait, you know, (until) November the 1st, no. So do it now.’’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/graham-urges-older-judges-to-ret...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 11:05 am
Lindsey Graham understands the importance of the courts
Graham urges older judges to retire so GOP can fill openings
WASHINGTON — Lindsey Graham, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, is publicly urging federal judges in their mid-60s or older to step aside so President Donald Trump and Senate Republicans can fill the vacancies with conservative jurists.
This is an historic opportunity,” Graham said. “We’ve put (nearly) 200 federal judges on the bench. ... If you can get four more years, I mean, it would change the judiciary for several generations. So if you’re a circuit judge in your mid-60s, late 60s, you can take senior status. Now would be a good time to do that, if you want to make sure the judiciary is right of center.”
Graham’s committee is set to vote next week on Judge Justin Walker, a 37-year-old protege of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell who has been nominated to the nation’s second-most powerful court. If confirmed, Walker would take an appeals court seat being vacated by Judge Thomas Griffith, who intends to retire in September. The Judiciary Committee also is considering 49-year-old Cory Wilson, a Mississippi judge who has been nominated to a seat on the New Orleans-based 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
Asked by Hewitt if he can assure veteran judges that their successor “will indeed be confirmed before the election,” Graham said, “Well, if you wait, you know, (until) November the 1st, no. So do it now.’’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/graham-urges-older-judges-to-ret...
This is an historic opportunity,” Graham said. “We’ve put (nearly) 200 federal judges on the bench. ... If you can get four more years, I mean, it would change the judiciary for several generations
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on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 11:09 am
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 11:25 am
>>lots of people up in here
>>lots of people up in here think trump is the only problem, and that voting him out will change all of this.
If by "change all this" you mean address the balance of power on the Supreme Court - then yes.
Not understanding the importance of Supreme Court nominees displays naivete.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 11:32 am
^we all do 6.
^we all do 6.
unfortunate rbg didn't during the obama years.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 11:40 am
The protesters should be
The protesters should be shouting supreme Court.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 12:27 pm
>>unfortunate rbg didn't
>>unfortunate rbg didn't during the obama years.
You can't be this uninformed, can you?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Woz Paul_woz
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 01:09 pm
>>You can't be this
>>You can't be this uninformed, can you?
Of course he is. You have to ask? Just read his posts.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Sunday, May 31, 2020 – 01:23 pm
woz you were literally
woz you were literally telling people to txt MIKE for bloomberg 2020.
stay in the corner buddy.