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What's Elon's goal? Does he want to become President or just take over a Twitter to enable MAGA?

clearly this has zero to do with his claims of 'feee speech' and all about power and control

 

Guy is a little off kilter for sure, but is probably harmless enough.  The whole thing is just so ridiculous at this point, don't think it will matter much what the dude is doing, even if he takes over Twitter.    That being said, it's more entertaining than the shenanigans of the Robber Barons of the late 1800s. 

But how are his cars?   Seriously.  Never drove one.

Shoddy, apparently.

 

 

I don't think so. So many  of my neighbors and friends own at least one Tesla vehicle and Tesla solar on their roofs. Out of my price range, but they really love their Teslas, and not just cause they're 'woke liberals' - and definitely some irony in the fact that MAGA - who are now all supportive of Elon  don't t buy his electric vehicles. Or maybe they do, but I've ever seen a Trump bumper sticker on a Tesla. Well nothing pro Tump

This move will likely get Repubs to buy a lot more of his products...   talk about free advertising, well played sir

Thread title suggested likes of Kock (ala Koch) Brothers or Military Industrial Complex.

 

My sister says that many Tesla owners where she lives (in Marin) report lots of problems (including mechanical problems) with their Tesla cars.

I hear that it's not unique to Tesla's, but happens to other electric vehicles also (maybe also hybrids?) that the coatings to the electrical wires are soy-based and so are attractive to rats as food. That's happened here in Eugene and in Marin. There is no official Tesla service in Eugene. You have to take the car to Portland to get work done, but at least they can diagnose problems long distance. When my close friend's friend's Tesla stopped working he hooked it up to the shop in Portland who diagnosed the problem as rats had eaten the coating. They had to transport the car to Portland to have it repaired. That seems pretty silly to me, but...

Turn off your social media, relax, and float downstream...

Tesla announced it would resume production at it's Shanghai plant on Monday, following 3 weeks of closure due to Covid restrictions imposed by the government,
 

Doesn't mean that anyones lockdown in the City has ended or will end soon, as Tesla workers will now be locked down at their workplace

we've been an oligarchy for a long time already

What jlp said

Yep

 

>>the coatings to the electrical wires are soy-based and so are attractive to rats as food

this problem isnt' limited to electric and hybrid cars, gas cars are also full of wiring and rats can lay waste to them . a few years ago i took my car for an oil change and the mechanic showed me a rats nest under the hood, luckily they hadn't done much damage.

im confused nancy...what does elon musk have to do with donald trump or maga?

Quinn, are you saying that wiring in other cars is covered in a soy-based coating? I never heard of that til now. Yes, I may still be stuck in the '60s...

rodents will chew wires in any automobile, especially ones that aren't driven frequently. 

 

>Tesla, like several other car companies, uses soy-based insulation to protect its wires. As soy is plant-based, it's considered more environmentally friendly than the oil-based insulation that had previously been used in most cars. But it's also apparently considered a delicious snack in the rodent world.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/video/popular-car-beware-rats-owners-130749404.html

Perhaps I was misunderstood. Rodents have always nested in cars, chewed on car parts and wires, etc. It's the soy-based element that is new to me.

that's why people prop open their hoods in the woods.

Anyone here work for Twitter? 

Hillary for POTUS in 2024. Mark my words. 

What has Musk done to join the MAGA crowd? He quit Trumps advisory board over pulling out of the Paris Climate Accord. He offered a huge payday for the best carbon capture system, which he just named some of the companies that have now been picked.He was a backer of Yang's living wage agenda. He built some of his empire with money from Obama administration. His business reduces dependence on oil, and also is using Solar energy to reduce the strain on the electrical grid. He built a battery storage system to help Australia with an energy problem. His technology is helping Ukraine in keeping internet up and running. I do not know a lot about the guy but I do not understand the connection with Trump that Nancy alluded to in the original post. He appears to understand the world of tomorrow better than our politicians do. Yes he is a businessman that has used tax payers money to advance his personal life, but he did what was allowed.

What has Musk done to join the MAGA crowd?

With the libtards, especially the Northern California variety, anyone who doesn't align their myopic viewpoints get tossed into the right wing and Trump barrel. It's embarrassing. 

^^^^

As far as I can tell, Musk is apparently willing to open Twitter back up to the former president, MTG, and other kooky right wingers seeking to post misinformation and seditious content.   The ironic thing is that Trump publicly stated that he would not go back on Twitter and instead will remain on his own "Truth Social."

>anyone who doesn't align their myopic viewpoints get tossed into the right wing and Trump barrel. It's embarrassing. 

 

Oh brother, It's not about viewpoints.

Spreading disinformation, hate speech and propaganda about a "stolen" election is dangerous. 

When any Oligarch has total control over a social media platform, it's a problem. The "free speech" issue  is a red herring

Elon Shrurgged isn't a good read. 

 

 

 

The billionaires will save us!

Fascinating. 

What 3 experts think about Elon Musk buying Twitter

Evan Greer, Director, Fight for the Future:

“I think no one really knows the answer to that question, including Musk himself.

Roy Gutterman, Director, Tully Center for Free Speech, Syracuse University:

“That’s the multi-billion dollar question right now. And we really don’t know how this will change, if it will at all.

David Kaye, Professor at UC Irvine School of Law and chair of the board of directors of the Global Network Initiative:

“I don’t think we know right now. 

Tatters. I resemble that remark!

 

And JR, sometimes you crack me up.

 Does anyone ever ask, "What's that cologne you're wearing,  Mr. Musk?"   I would.

Just deleted my Twitter account, that felt good.

So with no one getting banned, and they can say what ever they want on the new Twitter, will we see it self destruct like the old Philzone?

 

this could get interesting, the fall of the empire should accelerate pretty quickly, not sure everyone on that site can stomach all that freedom 

The faux-rage is almost as comical as when people were losing their minds about a comedian with a podcast. 

 

 

 

The ones crying 'freedom of speech' these days aren't patriots, they're the ones capitalizing on the freedom to lie.

Fuck em all

Scarface quits his job
https://youtu.be/qIqeXSYc8nE

Jim Wright on Facebook:

Twitter is like gratuitous sex. Sometimes fun. Sometimes disgusting. Sometimes dangerous. In the end, it's important to remember that you can get it for free...

... but Elon Musk had to pay for it

>The faux-rage is almost as comical as when people were losing their minds about a comedian with a podcast.

 

 

I don't recall anyone losing their minds over a comedian with a podcast. Are you referring to Al Franken? Are any comedians Oligarchs?

 

And here's a tip, should you choose to respond you might be taken a bit more seriously if you refrained from interjecting   "libtard", "woke" and other far right jargon.

 

 

 

Was that maybe the Rogan guy? Just guessing.

And here's a tip, should you choose to respond you might be taken a bit more seriously if you refrained from interjecting   "libtard", "woke" and other far right jargon.<<<

I dunno, I think libtard is a perfectly appropriate term for lefties who can only view the world via blind identity politics. Pretty similar to the MAGA crew when you really break it on down. They just go about it differently. 

Ah, the 'fine people on both sides' false narrative 

 

 

Tatters takes his talking points from Tucker. Lame. 

 

<<Roger Stone Tries to Come Back to Twitter, Is Immediately Re-Banned

https://www.thedailybeast.com/roger-stone-tries-to-come-back-to-twitter-...

>> I dunno, I think libtard is a perfectly appropriate term for lefties who can only view the world via blind identity politics. 

If Republicans tell people to vote for them because they'll keep the country whiter (border wall, ban Muslims), etc., isn't that identity politics but for white identity?

White identity should equate with being;  British, Scottish, Irish, French, German, Lithuanian, Russian, Swedish, Danish, Polish, Italian, Spanish, and heaven forbid Portuguese, etc...    

Seems like when you Identify as being "white", you've abandoned your heritage, not embraced it...

>> Seems like when you Identify as being "white", you've abandoned your heritage, not embraced it...

Well said

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he must  of read this thread

The evil genius is manipulating the markets again. 
 

 

on another note, anyone watch Severance? Great drama/sci-fi  drawing from Scientology and Elon's  Neuralik brain implant

 

Every day Musk is sounding more and more Trumplike. I really do think he has political aspirations, otherwise why would he announce that he's now a Republican? Maybe his ego is just as big as Trump but I suspect he will be holding the same sort of 'rallies' - only larger. You know it's gonna get stranger, and more fascist. His  'Free Speech' advocacy is just some 1984 BS

He can't be prez.

I doubt being one of 50 govs would satisfy his ego.

But he can be a loud troll.

A loud troll with deep pockets who can fund a Presidential campaign and wield significant political influence 

 

this evil genius might be even more dangerous than the evil Dotard former guy

A loud troll with deep pockets who can fund a Presidential campaign<<

Who do you think he has in mind?  

Also, you left out "sociopath"

California would probably elect him for governor.

you're confusing California with Texas ^

Maybe Elon is going to reel in the weak minded fish from the barrel and leave them on the ground to dry in the sun.  He has a plan. 

"Company insiders rip Tesla's stance on safety in hard-hitting Elon Musk doc.

If you own a Tesla, or a loved one does, or you're thinking about buying one, or you share public roads with Tesla cars, you might want to watch the new documentary "Elon Musk's Crash Course."

Premiering Friday on FX and Hulu, the 75-minute fright show spotlights the persistent dangers of Tesla’s automated driving technologies, the company’s lax safety culture, Musk’s P.T. Barnum-style marketing hype and the weak-kneed safety regulators who seem not to care."

Sociopathy meets capitalism meets "advanced tech".  What could go wrong?

 

I assume this is what he meant about expecting hit pieces on his newly republican ass.  Unless it was the showing his dick to a flight attendant thing.  Or the his dad knocked up his step-daughter thing.

 

 

 

>>>>you're confusing California with Texas ^

 

You think Texas has more nimbys. They don't. 

We thing musk is an ass. But  I will say we love our car cheaper than a Subaru . We have 50 thousand miles and never have had to service the car. only one set of tires and the wife hasn't been in a gas station in 4 years. Ten solar panels at 150 dollars each charge our car. Zero emissions to charge at our house, The planet is burning up. Every car co making electric cars are using his technology from his free patents. Ford and all the other manufactures are toting there hands free driving. It,the way of the future humans cause most driving deaths. We are to dangerous. Self driving 18 wheeler trucks not musk's are already on the road delivering products. The self driving in our tesla is now 100 percent monitored by a camera watching the driver in the car if you even look at your phone they will turn it off and you will be prevented from Turing it back on. Before i can even turn it on you must have a driving monitored score of 98 % Like the Allstate plug in. Self driving is in beta and you have to sign an agreement that you know this and are responsible for complete control not the car.  The same technology flies the rockets to the space station after leaving orbit.

Musk is all about Musk.

That's it.

No matter how many dollars he has, he's still the guy living in his mom's basement.

tesla drivers have taken top spot for idiots on the road. followed closely by audi.

Fuck this asshole. I interviewed with SpaceX and fairly quickly realized I would never work there.

"Free Speech Absolutist' Fires SpaceX Employees For Writing Open Letter"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/free-speech-absolutist-fires-spacex-191922405...


 

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1289377

>Right-wing populism often allows wealthy, powerful people to defend the status quo while pretending to care about the little guy. Trump, an extremely rich real-estate heir, embodied this phenomenon. One of his main achievements in office was a massive tax cut, which allowed billionaires to pay less than the working class for the first time in U.S. history.
 

Members of Congress come from a wide range of backgrounds — from local politics to business and entrepreneurship to professional sports — and their fortunes vary greatly. The wealthiest 15 members together had an estimated net worth of at least $1.3 billion, accounting for half of Congress' total estimated wealth.

https://www.businessinsider.com/wealthiest-members-congress-house-senate...

Apparently some folks don't understand that not all wealthy representatives  are right wing populists with fascist ideology. 

I'm disappointed in the effort slacker is  putting in here, not even a meme of the Clintons. Whataboutism, gaslighting and sealioning troll can do better. 

"effort"?

Larry Ellison is another right wing fuckhead. I admit to loving the Indian Wells tennis tournament, but can't stand the guy. this is an article about how he has treated the people of Lanai. Fuck him.
 

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-oracle-larry-ellison-lanai-hawai...

^Yes Indeed!

Some of us Zoners were at the show DNB played on Lanai in 2016. The little fishing harbor area was real and sweet, the beach for people like us (not there for Ellison's resorts) was lovely. We were cloistered in those areas. (And the deer population was growing)

For some reason, I am really liking the idea of "money furnaces" in any facilities owned and operated by Musk.

"Elon Musk says Tesla's new factories are 'gigantic money furnaces' that are losing billions of dollars from EV-battery shortages and supply-chain snags"

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-says-teslas-factories-204300898...

It's only a dumpster fire and it's only water, right?

"California firefighters use 4,500 gallons of water to extinguish Tesla fire that kept reigniting"

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/california-firefighters-4-500-gallons...

He's now saying he's pulling out..


 

 

and  Twitter will be suing him for the $1 Billion dollar cancellation.


 

guess his quest for free speech is over