I don't know a soul who's not been battered
I don't have a friend who feels at ease
I don't know a dream that's not been shattered
Or driven to its knees
On the stairs, I smoke a cigarette alone
The Mexican kids are shooting fireworks below
Hey, baby, it's the Fourth of July
Hey, baby, it's the Fourth of July
Whatever happened, I apologize
So dry your tears, and baby, walk outside
It's the Fourth of July
>>>>Prior to this incident, Chicago police said at least 54 people had been shot over July 4 weekend with at least seven deaths in the city, per WLS-TV.
Deputy Chief Christopher Covelli of the Lake County Sheriff’s Office said at a news conference that the police are looking for Robert E. Crimo III, 22, in connection with the shooting. He is believed to be driving a 2010 silver Honda Fit with Illinois license plates, Covelli said, and is “from the area” and goes by the name “Bobby.”
I hear you, Face. I lived in Winnetka for a while.
Robert E. Crimo III, a person of interest in a mass shooting at a parade that left six dead and sent more than two dozen people to hospitals, has been taken into custody near Lake Forest, Illinois, authorities said during a brief news conference Monday night.
Authorities said Crimo was spotted by a North Chicago officer who attempted a traffic stop. Crimo led officers on a brief chase before being stopped. He was taken into custody without incident and will be transferred to the police department in Highland Park, where the deadly shooting occurred earlier Monday.
Crimo has not been named as a suspect. When asked, authorities said he remains a "person of interest" while they investigate and positively connect him to the scene.
I'm so sick of this. I lived for years in nearby Evanston and have many friends in Highland Park. When and where will it happen again? Such is life in America.
Incidents like these make me believe that our right to "peacefully assemble" are under attack. Lawmakers need to consider this when constructing firearm legislation.
> The ban needs to be nationwide to be meaningful, otherwise, people will go wherever there aren't restrictions to get them.
The patchwork of state laws we currently have is a huge part of the problem. Comprehensive federal legislation is needed, but with the current composition of the US Supreme Court, whose recent activity is heavily in favor of States' rights, it's unlikely we would see it stand up to legal challenges if such a law was passed (which itself is unlikely).
Problem with pursuing a ban on "assault rifles" is that there is no accepted definition of the term and usually turns on cosmetic features that have little to do with the function of the firearm. For example, I have a Ruger "ranch rifle" that looks nothing like an AR-15 and probably wouldn't be considered an "assault rifle' despite the fact it fires the exact same round at exactly the same rate and can take large capacity magazine.
Proponents of new gun safety regulations would be better served focusing on large capacity magazines (for both rifles and pistols) rather than attempting to ban certain types of rifles based on arbitrary and largely cosmetic features, like pistol grips.
Something effective for the short term to curb mass shootings may simply be to ban all gun and ammo sales to white males ages 18 to 80, starting immediately.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Rasputin O'Leary Rasmataz
on Monday, July 4, 2022 – 04:05 pm
I don't know a soul who's not
I don't know a soul who's not been battered
I don't have a friend who feels at ease
I don't know a dream that's not been shattered
Or driven to its knees
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Monday, July 4, 2022 – 04:06 pm
Everything is broken.
Everything is broken.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Monday, July 4, 2022 – 04:13 pm
On the stairs, I smoke a
On the stairs, I smoke a cigarette alone
The Mexican kids are shooting fireworks below
Hey, baby, it's the Fourth of July
Hey, baby, it's the Fourth of July
Whatever happened, I apologize
So dry your tears, and baby, walk outside
It's the Fourth of July
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Monday, July 4, 2022 – 04:18 pm
Monday, bloody Monday.
Monday, bloody Monday.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: dimethyllovebeam joe
on Monday, July 4, 2022 – 04:26 pm
https://www.axios.com/2022/07
https://www.axios.com/2022/07/04/highland-park-shooting-july-4-parade
>>>>Prior to this incident, Chicago police said at least 54 people had been shot over July 4 weekend with at least seven deaths in the city, per WLS-TV.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Monday, July 4, 2022 – 04:28 pm
Sounds like your average
Sounds like your average weekend in Chi-raq.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Monday, July 4, 2022 – 04:38 pm
Yeah, but Highland Park is an
Yeah, but Highland Park is an affluent community on the North Shore, and this was a sniper on a rooftop with a rifle.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Highnote Stringtwang
on Monday, July 4, 2022 – 05:54 pm
Shooter unloaded a 30 round
Shooter unloaded a 30 round mag, reloaded and fired another 30 in about 10 seconds. Just horrible.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Monday, July 4, 2022 – 06:08 pm
The parade had too many doors
The parade had too many doors.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Monday, July 4, 2022 – 06:17 pm
Sounds like they have a
Sounds like they have a person of interest.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Monday, July 4, 2022 – 07:00 pm
^^^^ aka Awake the Rapper
^^^^ aka Awake the Rapper
Dude's lo-fi rap videos appear to be popular.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Monday, July 4, 2022 – 07:35 pm
This one hit home for me
This one hit home for me since grew up in Highland Park.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Monday, July 4, 2022 – 08:35 pm
I hear you, Face. I lived in
I hear you, Face. I lived in Winnetka for a while.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jack Fate Shakey Zimmerman
on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 – 10:04 am
I'm so sick of this. I lived
I'm so sick of this. I lived for years in nearby Evanston and have many friends in Highland Park. When and where will it happen again? Such is life in America.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 – 12:46 pm
Incidents like these make me
Incidents like these make me believe that our right to "peacefully assemble" are under attack. Lawmakers need to consider this when constructing firearm legislation.
I'm in favor of a ban on assault weapons.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 – 01:00 pm
but Highland Park already has
but Highland Park already has an assault weapons ban
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 – 01:20 pm
...and this shooting was
...and this shooting was conducted with a rifle, as mike said earlier
BTW; here's justice thomas and scalia's 2015 dissent (go figure) specifically on the highland park ban: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/15-133_7l48.pdf
regarding the nomenclature; the justices apparently prefer the term "modern sporting rifles" to "assault rifles".
So, how long until they drag out the tired old but mental health excuse?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sun so hot, clouds so low Trailhead
on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 – 01:22 pm
$2000. deposit per bullet
$2000. deposit per bullet casings should help curb the weak minded / heavily armed all while leaving the 2nd amendment intact.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 – 01:33 pm
Chris Rock proposed raising
Chris Rock proposed raising the cost of a bullet to $5k years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZrFVtmRXrw
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 – 01:39 pm
The ban needs to be
The ban needs to be nationwide to be meaningful, otherwise, people will go wherever there aren't restrictions to get them.
I'm no gun expert, but it seems any weapon capable of firing 70 rounds in a couple of minutes would qualify as an assault weapon.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 – 01:48 pm
>>I'm no gun expert, but it
>>I'm no gun expert, but it seems any weapon capable of firing 70 rounds in a couple of minutes would qualify as an assault weapon.<<
this actually speaks more to the technical ability of the shooter than the mechanical capacity of the gun.
even with ten round clips and a WWII bolt action rifle, a good shooter, unopposed, can easily fire at that rate.
That's one round every two seconds, not accounting for aim, which this guy obviously didn't yet have a grasp of.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 – 02:46 pm
> The ban needs to be
> The ban needs to be nationwide to be meaningful, otherwise, people will go wherever there aren't restrictions to get them.
The patchwork of state laws we currently have is a huge part of the problem. Comprehensive federal legislation is needed, but with the current composition of the US Supreme Court, whose recent activity is heavily in favor of States' rights, it's unlikely we would see it stand up to legal challenges if such a law was passed (which itself is unlikely).
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 – 03:11 pm
Problem with pursuing a ban
Problem with pursuing a ban on "assault rifles" is that there is no accepted definition of the term and usually turns on cosmetic features that have little to do with the function of the firearm. For example, I have a Ruger "ranch rifle" that looks nothing like an AR-15 and probably wouldn't be considered an "assault rifle' despite the fact it fires the exact same round at exactly the same rate and can take large capacity magazine.
Proponents of new gun safety regulations would be better served focusing on large capacity magazines (for both rifles and pistols) rather than attempting to ban certain types of rifles based on arbitrary and largely cosmetic features, like pistol grips.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: MarkD ntfdaway
on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 – 03:58 pm
Thought I read 2 30 round
Thought I read 2 30 round mags in 10 seconds?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 – 07:04 pm
Crimo has been charged with
Crimo has been charged with murder.
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/live-updates/highland-park-mass-shooting...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: dimethyllovebeam joe
on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 – 08:38 pm
Something effective for the
Something effective for the short term to curb mass shootings may simply be to ban all gun and ammo sales to white males ages 18 to 80, starting immediately.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: TommyGutt deadtothecore2
on Wednesday, July 6, 2022 – 07:36 am
you all live in fuked up
you all live in fuked up country happy independece day
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, July 6, 2022 – 02:12 pm
Well, yeah. But we're the
Well, yeah. But we're the greatest fucked up country on Earth.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Thursday, July 7, 2022 – 01:15 am
I hear you, Face. I lived in
I hear you, Face. I lived in Winnetka for a while<<<
Close enough for sure! It's very surreal beyond the tragedy of it all.