Sailors cheer fired Navy Captain Crozier
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Crozier’s memo asked permission to isolate much of his 5,000-member crew on shore in Guam to stem the spread of the virus aboard the Theodore Roosevelt. “Sailors do not need to die,” he wrote.
The Navy did ultimately act, announcing the removal of 2,700 sailors from the ship.
Within a day, Crozier joined their ranks, disembarking the aircraft carrier to a waiting sedan after being relieved of command. In his wake, hundreds of sailors cheered the captain, according to several videos subsequently published on social media.
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline
As that guy with the scotch
As that guy with the scotch and cigar said, "you can't fix stupid."
Trump will probably put Eric in charge of that ship....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius
The guy broke the chain of
The guy broke the chain of command wit the letter he sent. He knew better, and so should you. That is, if you knew anything about the military
But Bad Orange Man......who had nothing to do with this decision.
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I don’t believe anyone was
I don’t believe anyone was implying that trump had anything to do with it, altho that’s prob just a reflexive move for you
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish
This will all be ok in a
This will all be ok in a short period of time with minimal head rolling in short time. Protocol will change sooner than this will be forgotten. All parties involved did what had to be done.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline
I was just saying what Trump
I was just saying what Trump's reaction to that could be.
Thom, you good with the position he just put his son in law in?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Rasputin O'Leary
The man's bold maneuver got
The skipper's bold maneuver got the urgent situation the attention it required to save lives, period.
I'm sure he'd do it all over again. Classy sailors very appreciative. Make it happen captain - Hero
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Standing up for what's right
What a GREAT tribute from his sailors. Powerful story.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic
Thom shit-talking the guy in
Thom shit-talking the guy in 2 posts.
Predictably douche.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead
"And so should you"
"And so should you"
lololol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead
Thom
Thom
trump
is who he is
and is consistent, as are you
https://apple.news/AQerTNLyYT8-lYCA2S2GHtw
my ball....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead
Thom how is your government
Thom how is your government doing ?
Is small good?
jared? https://apple.news/ACx7dKGtERJO00FunE3gD5w
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Role model
Role model
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead
Who is ourselves ?
Who is ourselves ?
these guys show so much empathy has dondon ever said anything kind?
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees
The guy broke the chain of
The guy broke the chain of command wit the letter he sent. He knew better, and so should you. <<<
Perhaps he did know better & we do too.
Have you ever heard of an "activist" aircraft carrier captain that is willing to fall on a sword for no good reason?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved
Got this in an email from
Got this in an email from family memebr who's retired USN officer.
I'm not endorsing his thoughts, just putting them here for some insight within the walls...
"Not sure what to think on that one. The Navy is “Mission first, People always”. Definitely don’t like the leak to the press, but respect the CAPT as he probably knew he was sacrificing his first star and going terminal on his career.
On the other hand, there are cruise ships that have been at sea for a while too...
Not a whole lot of infrastructure in Guam and very hot/humid so you can’t just dump 5000 sailors ashore and keep them within the fenced pier area. I’ve been on those piers - there’s not a lot of infrastructure, then trying to separately berth and mess all those sailors while keeping them quarantined from shore personnel. Probably not a whole lot of PPE out there in Guam and test kits would be hard to come by. Tough situation all the way around, but that’s why the CAPT in command afloat has so much authority.
Lots of mixed feelings on this one, but I’m not upset that the Acting SECNAV made the call and held himself publicly accountable for it.
Looking forward to everyone else’s thoughts...
I hope you all are doing well here - we’re safe and healthy!"
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Keithk1
The person who should have
The person who should have been fired was the one who decided it was a good idea to dock the carrier in Vietnam during a pandemic. Pretty sure that wasn't the captain.
https://www.upi.com/Defense-News/2020/03/05/US-aircraft-carrier-visits-V...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius
“[Acting Navy Secretary
Gen. Milley: Navy Had Reason to Believe Crozier Operated Outside Chain of Command
“[Acting Navy Secretary Thomas] Modly is the responsible, accountable official to the American people. And he had reason to believe that the captain operated outside the chain of command and he relieved him,” Milley told Fox News’s Outnumbered Overtime on Friday.
Milley said there is an ongoing investigation into what happened, but he trusted Modly and his judgment and would support him.
He added, “The secretary of the Navy is responsible to the American people for the good order and discipline of the Navy. And when he loses trust and confidence in a ship’s captain, then that’s it. It’s target down. And we’re moving on to the next, to the next task.”
By going public with his complaints, Crozier essentially sent a giant banner up into the sky announcing to America’s enemies that one of the primary weapons in America’s arsenal might be out of commission. You can see, therefore, why the Navy took a very dim view of Crozier bypassing the chain of command to announce that he had a problem.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/theres_another_side_to_the_...
[snip]
Modly said Crozier had cc’ed more than 20 people, including some outside the chain of command, over unsecured and unclassified systems, assuring the memo’s leak.
He also said Crozier did not speak to his direct superior, carrier strike group commander Rear Adm. Stuart Baker, about his concerns before sending the memo, despite Baker being on the carrier and living within feet of Crozier.
Modly said Crozier was not fired for expressing concerns, but the way he chose to do so.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved
He knew he would be in
He knew he would be in trouble, and possibly lose his command. He felt it was worth his own personal sacrifice. I salute his action.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D
Too many people "acting" like
Too many people "acting" like secretaries in this administration.
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>>>>The guy broke the chain
>>>>The guy broke the chain of command wit the letter he sent. He knew better, and so should you. That is, if you knew anything about the military<<<<
Thomas you don’t know jack fucking shit about the military.
The commander did the right thing because he was being pushed back against by his leadership. I know Milley’s statement said he bypassed, and he did. It just wasn’t the first move he made. He knew the consequences 100%.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water
>>> Thomas you don’t know
>>> Thomas you don’t know jack fucking shit about the military.
Hannity filled him in.
https://www.navytimes.com/opinion/commentary/2020/04/04/dispatch-from-rome-former-theodore-roosevelt-skipper-should-be-praised-not-pilloried
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Rasputin O'Leary
< Hannity filled him in.
< Hannity filled him in.
It sure wasn't president bone spurs
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune
"He demonstrated exemplary
"He demonstrated exemplary leadership qualities; appropriate care for his crewmates; while most ably exhibiting that he possesses a spine: Something our nation can ill-afford to lose."
thom, were you too young to go to nam? curious...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: MarkD
Wondering why that smoldering
Wondering why that smoldering piece of shit still gets reactions here. We all know what a complete failure as a human being he is. The fact that he is a deadhead and has good musical sense, has long ago stopped being a factor. Sometimes I think he drums up the most ignorant takes on the planet just to get reactions here. No-one could be that ignorant and heartless in real life. I mean if you want to react to stupidity, turn on fox news and throw a brick at your TV. But don't give this piece of shit the time of day.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic
Neidermeyer Lite
Neidermeyer Lite
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R
How about fired (broke the
How about fired (broke the rules) then immediately pardoned (he served a higher cause)?
then he gets hired by a tv network as a military consultant talking head and even gets book offers and movie offers and lives happily ever after
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155 positives on the ship
155 positives on the ship. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/155-sailors-on-uss-theodore-roosevelt-...
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>> The guy broke the chain of
>> The guy broke the chain of command wit the letter he sent. He knew better, and so should you. That is, if you knew anything about the military...But Bad Orange Man......who had nothing to do with this decision. <<
Apparently he has been redeemed by the Bad Orange Man.
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SEC NAV Resigns ! GOOD and
SEC NAV Resigns ! GOOD and Later POS.