Being judged on what you did in High School

>>> After you did it - you have to own it..

Absolutely 6.

If teenagers were fully capable of thinking about their actions prior to doing them, than we would treat them like adults under the law, and not like minors. Fact is, the human brain doesn't finish developing until about 21 years of age. Yeah, ideally teenagers would all be raised in loving intelligent families that teach them how to think about their actions and make good decisions. In the real world, though, most adults aren't even capable of doing that, let alone teaching their children how to do it.

I personally did a lot of fucked up shit in high school, though nothing that counts as sexual assault or rape. There were a lot of drunken hookups where both parties were wasted, and while both parties were willing always, I can't say that I never pressured or acted inappropriately. I was drunk and a teenager. My group of friends used to steal cars, car radios, deal all sorts of weird rugs and basically get involved in all sorts of unethical behavior. I'm not proud of any of it but I'm also not ashamed of any of it and I certainly wouldn't want to be judged for it.

On the other hand, if you are being nominated to be a judge on the Supreme Court then yes, your entire past is open for scrutiny. But judging people for what they did or didn't do in high school is silly, in my opinion. Or judging anyone for something they did at any point in the past. People change, life moves on. If you can't forgive people and judge them for who they are now instead of who they were then, then that would radically limit the amount of people anyone could interact with...

>>> But judging people for what they did or didn't do in high school is silly, in my opinion.

Even sexual assault, attempted rape?

WTF

^^^^^This.

Well, yeah. I mean, what if a person was a totally fucked up individual in high school, came from a family where he/she was sexually abused, physically and verbally abused as well maybe. Someone who had a totally messed up upbringing, and therefore did messed up things. And then as an adult they sought out professional help, attempted to become a better person and live a good life. Recognized that the things they did were fucked up, maybe even tried to reach out to the people he/she hurt and is trying to live a good life. What right do you or I or anyone else have to judge them? You don't know why a person is how they are or aren't. If they're trying to live a good life now and make up for past transgressions....

Hell, I wouldn't judge a murderer either, or I would try not to, if the person had served the time for their crime and was making up for it in some way now....

I can imagine a lot of people who grew up in really violent neighborhoods, pressured into a life of gangs and drugs and violence, maybe even had to kill someone to get into a gang or be killed for not doing it. I'm not saying what they did was good, or right, just that everyone deserves to be judged on where they are at in life now. If they feel no remorse, have no desire to improve and are a total asshole now, than fuck that person. Judge them for that, but if right now they are doing everything in their power to walk the good walk, I personally don't feel it's fair to judge them negatively for fucked up shit in their past. Assuming they're not being nominated to the Supreme Court, of course...

"The Senate DOES have the right to judge nominees to SCOTUS."

I've said repeatedly that in this particular situation, a nominee to the Supreme Court, should have a perfect record from start to finish.

I think there is a shit ton of men who are worried that stuff they'd done in the past and thought was acceptable or are ok with their attempts that satisfy themselves of resolving their guilt, are freaking the fuck out.

By age sixteen or so individuals SHOULD have a sense of what is right or wrong and realize there is almost always  a consequence for most actions.

A Supreme Court Justice nonominee's permanent records should most definitely be scrutinized. 

This is a job interview. Has anyone who ranted like Kavanaugh did yesterday ever gotten the job they were seeking?

i was a piece of shit until my 20's, plain and simple. im a COMPLETELY different person for the better. That said an ALL BOYS school mentality, and comradory can illicit some messed up stuff. ive seen it over the years when I played 3 full contact sports for years and years, the shit ppl get away with is horrific. The dudes lying is the worse thing, he cant even say  "yeah I fucked up and did horrible stuff, I admit it was wrong and I'm sorry".

fuck

What about mailbox baseball? Relatively victimless.

The guy doesn't even have to admit to the particular attempted rape. All he had to do to was apologize for his general frat boy behavior. But he even lied about that! 

There is plenty of stuff to keep him off the SCOTUS just based on his previous extremely partisan work history and lies he told to the Judiciary Committee when he testified in the 2000s. Democrats held off his confirmation to the DC Circuit for 3 years based on that alone. 

I went to a rat dog concert in HS...

Yes

you are what you are

They clearly caught him lying under oath before this misconduct issue came out and this apparently doesn't matter one bit to the GOP mainstreamers.

Going back to HS is common practice for background checks for high ranking Govt jobs, this are the facts. With him being protected by the GOP he's probably being spared some of the scrutiny a person applying for a lower level position than Supreme Court would certainly be subject to.

50-50 he gets confirmed. Just the beginning if he does get confirmed.  The Democrats immediately try to start impeachment proceedings. 

Everything is different now, again. More fucking precedents.

If i was judged on what i did in high school?

Id be president

I definitely did stupid shit in HS. When I was 14 and 15 some of it involved criminal mischief, like knocking over or egging mailboxes. It’s the stuff that I can look back on and say I’m not proud, but I admit to it and I think that most people wouldn’t hold it against me.

I bet that Kavanaugh would admit to doing such things if those were the claims against him, and we’d all move on. However, how can one admit to sexual assault and then expect to move on? He has no choice but to deny. There’s a difference between being a stupid male teen who eggs mailboxes and one who physically or sexually assaults someone.

Neither are truly “victimless,” but 2 guys holding a girl down and laughing while they cover her mouth and grab her is hardly “boys being boys.”

Burying a high school friend tonight and tomorrow. Memories are rampant.  None involve raping or assaulting women. It's still all very clear almost 30 years later.  The notion that there is some sort of normalcy to assaulting women is insane.

The vote might already be cast but if it's not don't be surprised when Kavanaugh becomes the next SCOTUS

drinking excessively in HS is pretty common. Yes I have done embarrassing shit, however none of it comes close to attempted rape.

you know better, whether drunk or not. even at 14-18.

or else, his parents didn't raise him well.

so many entitled privileged little fuckers' parents send them off to boarding schools/private schools where its obvious they do not get much love, guidance or nurturing. that's how you get the class of "conservatives" we have today...

people are scrutinizing your yearbook shit dick because the alleged attempted RAPE occurred then. 

>>>>stupid male teen who eggs mailboxes

Who eggs mailboxes?   You egg houses, not mailboxes.   Mailboxes are for smashing with baseball bats (or when the owners get tired of having their boxes smashed and erect a plastic one, putting a lit can of sterno in).

at least half the people i knew in high school became worse people as they grew older.

maybe 10% improved/evolved.

the rest stayed the about same.

these percentages mostly match who stayed in my shithole home town, and who moved away.

I thought mailboxes were for blowing up with M-80s.

^egggszactly! You can get some good lift with two.....or so ive heard

I encountered a cache of old High School report cards recently while Autumn - Cleaning.  The teachers typed or wrote them by hand.  Many positive tales of my hard work and improvement but mostly :: "Lazy,  should work harder,  unfocused,  easily distracted..."

Also there was a Xerox transcript of my entire High School career with all the grades and rank amongst classmates.

I was consistently in the top two-fifths of the class,  although the grades seem pretty mediocre.  Granted,  it was a challenging environment with tons of really smart kids.  But decades later,  most of the teachers'  comments are spot-on.  I am indeed lazy,  and should work harder.

Some of the most positive comments are in Religion,  Art,  Music,  Spanish and Biology classes.

There are no reports of me sharing Luuudes and getting naked,  probably because that never happened.

>>>>> probably because that never happened

Don’t give up hope.

 Mr. Def,

A bit before your time,  but from what the newspapers said,  Luuudes changed from Rorer to Lemmon back then,  and there were counterfeit ones from South America.  

Also,  High-School Girls back in the 20's and 30's  would  "make out" with Guys just for fun,  as no one had invented video games yet.

Only the wealthiest families had Betamax and indoor plumbing.

I believe in redemption.  Also, brains don't stop forming until they are 25.  And I cringe at some of my high school behavior just like everyone else.  But a SCOTUS justice has to be held to the very highest standards.  This gets close to something that you might not overlook, but if you did it would have to be because the now-adult showed remorse, insight, and has changed. K's demeanor at the hearing suggests that he lacks insight and remains am immature and entitled ass, whether he did it or not.

High School

Let's See

Surfed

Puffed Killer Thai Stick and Real Sinsemilla and Hash

Skateboarded

Drank  Swiss Zurich Lowenbrau

Babes All Over The Palisades

Ate Slept and Did It All Over again with My Friends

perhaps not; that being said, if you forcibly hold a woman down and attempt to rape her, you should probably not be eligible for the highest court in the land

Whoa, Plf, "Whole lotta Led." I forget the call letters of that L.A. rock station back then.

Edit,, KMET?