The pay gap is the perfect example of statistics gone awry.
For starters, the data cited in the gender pay gap looks only at the median earnings of full-time wage and salaried workers. It doesn’t differentiate really important factors, such as education, occupation, experience, and hours, which account for nearly all of the differential in earnings between men and women.
It turns out that accounting for all these factors eliminates all but an estimated 3 to 5 cents of the gender pay gap.
Data is also subject to human error. Comparisons between survey data and administrative records reveal substantially underreporting of income within some of the most widely used survey data.
Consequently, the data disregards substantial changes, such as large gains in women’s retirement incomes.
And finally, data isn’t the supreme indicator, because not everything comes with a price tag or pay stub. What is the value of a flexible work schedule; a job with huge upward-mobility potential; particular benefits packages; the ability to tap into flexible, sharing-economy labor platforms, such as Uber and Airbnb; or to access new business platforms, such as Etsy for additional income?
Workers who seek these job characteristics often do so despite lower pay. But those intentional choices don’t show up in the statistics.
These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy
Harvard economist Claudia Goldin has done some really interesting research on the gender pay gap.
The long & short of her findings largely support the idea that the pay gap is a myth that doesn't account for important factors like career choices and hours worked.
"Conservative" white males always seem to be the ones crying there's no inequalities in our country Ie: gender pay gap, educational opportunities, civil rights etc...
This study melted a lot of faces. In Scandinavian countries with the most gender equality, sex differences in career choices actually become more stark, not less.
You should probably skip this one, TOD. I think it might upset you.
>>>>>>Yeah, I thought the whole wage gap jive was about women making less on average for doing the same job(s), no?
It is but even when they skew the numbers as much as they can and make false comparisons there is still a wage gap per Thomas article “It turns out that accounting for all these factors eliminates all but an estimated 3 to 5 cents of the gender pay gap.”
Another fine showing from our resident research librarian.
Colonization may be used as a method of absorbing and assimilating people into the culture of the imperial country, and thus destroying any remnant of the cultures that might threaten the imperial territory over the long term by inspiring reform.
Basically, women voting against their own better interest.
You know putting a misogynistic sexual abuser in the Whitehouse for one example.
Hillman, I know I just triggered you with that with that. Clinton blah, blah, blah.
But were trying to move past that, you know because they're not in office and we got one right now as the Commander in Chief.
Republican women's ultimate affirmation of the Patriarchy.
They continue to uphold White male power and privilege against their own better interest.
>>>>thanx for that labdoor link mark. just spent 2 weeks in the hospital & now need to take better care of myself. timely info
Glad to share it, Hillman. Labdoor is my go-to site for independent supplement analysis. Unfortunately, there's a lot of trash on the market today; it's nice to get the data and make informed decisions.
I'm not sure if TOD was able to process my vitamin recommendation while he was pretending to win imaginary boxing matches and repeating his programming about muh patriarchy (the economist I cited is actually a prominent feminist, but whateves), but those Garden of Life men's daily are the best multi I've ever taken. Spendy @ $55 on Amazon, but you kinda get what you pay for in the supplement world, in my experience.
I think it's going to take more than a powerful multivitamin to correct the terrifying cognitive dissonance you're suffering from, but diet and exercise are important.
>>>>>>You actually think I would do something like that young buck
I didn’t say that. Just that you and Hillman fit the profile better than any other registered zoners. Also, watch the “buck” stuff. Gravy is a little sensitive about stuff like that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius Thom2
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 08:52 am
s
Only if you actually believe that women only get 82 cents for doing the same job as a man who get a dollar for it.
"Pay Gap" Myth Ignores Women’s Intentional Job Choices
The pay gap is the perfect example of statistics gone awry.
For starters, the data cited in the gender pay gap looks only at the median earnings of full-time wage and salaried workers. It doesn’t differentiate really important factors, such as education, occupation, experience, and hours, which account for nearly all of the differential in earnings between men and women.
It turns out that accounting for all these factors eliminates all but an estimated 3 to 5 cents of the gender pay gap.
Data is also subject to human error. Comparisons between survey data and administrative records reveal substantially underreporting of income within some of the most widely used survey data.
Consequently, the data disregards substantial changes, such as large gains in women’s retirement incomes.
And finally, data isn’t the supreme indicator, because not everything comes with a price tag or pay stub. What is the value of a flexible work schedule; a job with huge upward-mobility potential; particular benefits packages; the ability to tap into flexible, sharing-economy labor platforms, such as Uber and Airbnb; or to access new business platforms, such as Etsy for additional income?
Workers who seek these job characteristics often do so despite lower pay. But those intentional choices don’t show up in the statistics.
https://www.heritage.org/jobs-and-labor/commentary/pay-gap-myth-ignores-...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Where Does The Time Go? LiquidMonkey
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 10:17 am
the heritage foundation?
the heritage foundation?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 10:19 am
https://mediabiasfactcheck
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/heritage-foundation/m
These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 11:37 am
Continued from tim's citation
Continued from tim's citation...
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Why does old Bag O'Dung, and his half-wit clone Brayin', rely on souces that publish lies and half truths?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 11:39 am
Because Blurt and Blare don't
Because Blurt and Blare don't post here anymore.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 11:41 am
All those guys saw Jerry
All those guys saw Jerry while they were on acid.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 11:44 am
>>> Because Blurt and Blare
>>> Because Blurt and Blare don't post here anymore.
Jeff "the ref" would've worn out his whistle.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Across thegreatdivide
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 11:46 am
>>>All those guys saw Jerry
>>>All those guys saw Jerry while they were on acid
lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 12:27 pm
But did they see Jerry when
But did they see Jerry when he was on acid?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 12:27 pm
Harvard economist Claudia
Harvard economist Claudia Goldin has done some really interesting research on the gender pay gap.
The long & short of her findings largely support the idea that the pay gap is a myth that doesn't account for important factors like career choices and hours worked.
https://www.workflexibility.org/gender-pay-gap-interview-economist-claud...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 12:32 pm
It seems that it would be
It seems that it would be fairly easy to design a study that would only compare men and women;s pay at the same job, where hours were the same.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Furious E O1>11
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 12:48 pm
Yeah, I thought the whole
Yeah, I thought the whole wage gap jive was about women making less on average for doing the same job(s), no?
or am I being lied to by the liberal media and universities again as I keep hearing?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 12:54 pm
"Conservative" white males
"Conservative" white males always seem to be the ones crying there's no inequalities in our country Ie: gender pay gap, educational opportunities, civil rights etc...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 12:56 pm
Housing
Housing
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 01:01 pm
Or crying that they are the
Or crying that they are the ones who are being discriminated against.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 01:04 pm
This study melted a lot of
This study melted a lot of faces. In Scandinavian countries with the most gender equality, sex differences in career choices actually become more stark, not less.
You should probably skip this one, TOD. I think it might upset you.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/553592/
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 01:05 pm
>>>>>>Yeah, I thought the
>>>>>>Yeah, I thought the whole wage gap jive was about women making less on average for doing the same job(s), no?
It is but even when they skew the numbers as much as they can and make false comparisons there is still a wage gap per Thomas article “It turns out that accounting for all these factors eliminates all but an estimated 3 to 5 cents of the gender pay gap.”
Another fine showing from our resident research librarian.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 01:13 pm
as a librarian, thom is
as a librarian, thom is supposed to be highly trained and aware of implicit bias in research and news articles.
are you really a librarian or are you a cataloger or something?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 01:14 pm
Thanks Mark.
Thanks Mark.
Did you forget to take your "Red Pill" this mornin'?
Putz.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 01:27 pm
I take Garden of Life men's
I take Garden of Life men's daily multivitamins, TOD. Highly recommended.
If you need any fitness or general health advice, I'm here to help.
https://labdoor.com/rankings/multivitamins
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 01:42 pm
Appreciate it Mark.
Appreciate it Mark.
My comment to you was just tit for tat.
You: a jab
Me: a right cross
Sorry that you're spittin' chicklets now, but you should be used to it.
All in good fun!
Now tell us more about the colonization of modern day women.
Truly fascinating stuff.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 01:46 pm
I'm glad you can pretend to
I'm glad you can pretend to win imaginary fistfights on the internet, TOD.
You've done this before and zoners made quite a bit of fun out of you for it, remember?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 01:49 pm
"Dr.Sinatra Healthy" - lol.
"Dr. Sinatra Healthy" Can't go wrong with a brand like that!
Colonize women?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 01:52 pm
Mark it's as ridiculous as 99
Mark it's as ridiculous as 99% of the shit that runs out of your mouth.
The irony.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 01:53 pm
Don't ask too many questions,
Don't ask too many questions, Hillman.
TOD gets angry when facts don't support his worldview; then, he throws imaginary internet punches(!!!)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 02:02 pm
thanx for that labdoor link
thanx for that labdoor link mark. just spent 2 weeks in the hospital & now need to take better care of myself. timely info!
i can't say anything on here without some guys' vaginas start bleedin'. it's amazing
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 02:06 pm
>>> Colonize women?
>>> Colonize women?
Colonization may be used as a method of absorbing and assimilating people into the culture of the imperial country, and thus destroying any remnant of the cultures that might threaten the imperial territory over the long term by inspiring reform.
Basically, women voting against their own better interest.
You know putting a misogynistic sexual abuser in the Whitehouse for one example.
Hillman, I know I just triggered you with that with that. Clinton blah, blah, blah.
But were trying to move past that, you know because they're not in office and we got one right now as the Commander in Chief.
Republican women's ultimate affirmation of the Patriarchy.
They continue to uphold White male power and privilege against their own better interest.
Ahem... Kavanaugh.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dr. Benway daylight
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 02:08 pm
y'all are silly
y'all are silly
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 02:20 pm
i don't trigger i just never
i don't trigger i just never heard that phrase before. lots of new catch phrases now for people to get all worked up over. amazing.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 02:22 pm
Take care and be well,
Take care and be well, Hillman.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 02:26 pm
>>>>thanx for that labdoor
>>>>thanx for that labdoor link mark. just spent 2 weeks in the hospital & now need to take better care of myself. timely info
Glad to share it, Hillman. Labdoor is my go-to site for independent supplement analysis. Unfortunately, there's a lot of trash on the market today; it's nice to get the data and make informed decisions.
I'm not sure if TOD was able to process my vitamin recommendation while he was pretending to win imaginary boxing matches and repeating his programming about muh patriarchy (the economist I cited is actually a prominent feminist, but whateves), but those Garden of Life men's daily are the best multi I've ever taken. Spendy @ $55 on Amazon, but you kinda get what you pay for in the supplement world, in my experience.
Wishing you good health, man.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 02:48 pm
Incased you missed it? I'll
Mark,
Incased you missed it? I'll say it again.
Appreciate man.
Hillman - "vaginas start bleedin'"
Id like to think you're better than that.
-smh
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 03:01 pm
I'm here for you, TOD.
I'm here for you, TOD.
I think it's going to take more than a powerful multivitamin to correct the terrifying cognitive dissonance you're suffering from, but diet and exercise are important.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 03:09 pm
>>> I think it's going to
>>> I think it's going to take more than a powerful multivitamin to correct the terrifying cognitive dissonance you're suffering from.
Yo, it's a Grateful Dead thing, you wouldn't understand.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 03:23 pm
Screeching irrationality when
Check out this list:
Screeching irrationality when faced with empirical data? Check.
Fake internet punches? Check.
Flaccid deader than thou-ery? Check.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 03:41 pm
...Your melt, priceless!
...Your melt, priceless!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dr. Benway daylight
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 03:49 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m_cuVJu1Ig&t=2m37s
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 03:50 pm
If the FBI profiler zoners to
If the FBI profiler zoners to determine who was most likely to commit a mass shooting Hillman would win followed closely by TOD.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 03:57 pm
You actually think I would do
>>> If the FBI profiler zoners to determine who was most likely to commit a mass shooting Hillman would win followed closely by TOD.
You actually think I would do something like that young buck?
Because that shit ain't funny.
Either you get it or don't.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 04:20 pm
he craves attention tod,
he craves attention tod, thats all
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 04:25 pm
Look Timmy Hoover...
Look Timmy Hoover...
I pretty much disagree with Hillman on everything he says.
That being said, I would never joking or not joking ever say what you did.
>>> If the FBI profiler zoners to determine who was most likely to commit a mass shooting Hillman would win followed closely by TOD <<<
You know damn well this gets picked up by Google.
Damn dude.
You know America is experiencing epidemic gun violence.
That's some fucked up bullshit!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 06:08 pm
T.O.D. posts like a late
T.O.D. posts like a late middle aged dude going through an identity crisis.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 06:20 pm
PBJ with the crust cut off
PBJ with the crust cut off and a nice bowl of chicken noodle soup. yumm.
oops wrong thread
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 06:24 pm
I think you meant to post in
Who cuts off the crusts for you, Fo6?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 06:34 pm
How is everything with you?
How is everything with you?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Saturday, November 10, 2018 – 06:51 pm
>>>>>>You actually think I
>>>>>>You actually think I would do something like that young buck
I didn’t say that. Just that you and Hillman fit the profile better than any other registered zoners. Also, watch the “buck” stuff. Gravy is a little sensitive about stuff like that.