Your idea for the "biggest reform" re: primaries?

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If people want to do away with the Electoral College and implement proportional representation in the Senate, then why not also mandate that primaries in all states take place on the same day in an effort to level the playing field in the same light? Why should any given state have a disproportionate amount of national influence over the primary process? Perhaps more importantly, why should we allow there to be a "game" that can be gamed?  If there must be a "process", instead of moving from state to state what about narrowing of field?

move to canada

Middle class and up vote. Fuck the rest. They're not getting anything back. 

Leave it up to the property owners. 

I agree that the primaries should all be held on the same day. No one state should be able to hold more sway than another based on their vote. Making it all the same day levels the playing field. And no more electoral college, and in the primaries just a straightforward "the one with the most votes wins the nomination". Period.

"I agree that the primaries should all be held on the same day."

Never happen, primary candidates can't afford to run a nationwide campaign. 

"I agree that the primaries should all be held on the same day."

Never happen, primary candidates can't afford to run a nationwide campaign<<<

But do you agree that it'd be a more equitable method for any given state's influence (if funds weren't an issue)?

lol, we gots ourselves a real american patriot up in here!

the electoral college is a hold out from slavery ya fucking toolbag.

They could randomize the order of the presidential primaries.

The one thing that was good about the Iowa system is that they had a runoff.   If a person's first choice didn't make the 15% cut, they could then vote for a second choice who did.   This type of ranked voting would be especially good in the general elections as it would allow people to vote their conscience without worrying about the spoiler effect.   Maine has ranked voting and don't see why it couldn't work everywhere else.

^ I disagree, Ken. I watched footage the other night from Iowa and it looked miserable.Who wants to have to sit around a big group of people all night (during flu season, no less!).

Mail in ballots or verified electronic voting enable MORE people to vote, caucuses deter involvement.

We should get rid of the Primaries completely and let elected officials of the party decide who they put on the ballot. Then we should offer people an EZ ballot if they want it that only has President, Senate, House, Governor, State Senate, and State House on it. 

Endless elections and choices do not give us better government and lead to voter apathy. People don't like to feel stupid. I pay really close attention and I would say 25% of the things I vote on I have no real idea. I'm talking things like Judges and State Board of Equalization. 

Do you really think Americans can understand ranked choice and game theory? 

 

Democrats in South Carolina can vote in the Republican primary and get Trump off the ballot if the Republicans use their only primary vote in a Dem primary. 

>>>>I watched footage the other night from Iowa and it looked miserable.Who wants to have to sit around a big group of people all night

I am not talking about in person caucuses.  Instead, it would be an instant runoff where the ballot would allow the voter to pick their top two choices.   If their first choice is not in the top two (in the case of the general election), their second choice kicks in.   Its not that complicated.

>>>>I'm talking things like Judges and State Board of Equalization

Those are all important too and the modern GOP built its power base from the school boards on up.    In Oregon, every household gets a thick state issued voter pamphlet in the mail before the elections which allows each candidate to explain who they are, their positions, and endorsements.   Its a good way to know whether the person you never heard of who is running for a local position is a right wing kook, progressive, etc.

Oregon also has all mail in ballots, automatic voter registration, and some of the highest voter participation rates in the country.

 

>>> Democrats in South Carolina can vote in the Republican primary and get Trump off the ballot if the Republicans use their only primary vote in a Dem primary. <<<

 

No democrat in South Carolina is gonna throw away their vote in the primary to vote for a republican.

 

Republicans don't have enough going on with their primary to keep them from trying to upset the democratic primary.


dig?

 

OK makes sense Ken.

You worry about it. It's closer to you. 

I'm not going to vote in the primary in South Carolina or California. I'm leaving it up to the homeowners of America.



^ whatever

 

>> I'm leaving it up to the homeowners of America. <<

You want illegals deported, right? VOTE

Moderates are ok with it. They cost too much and a candidate for decriminalizing immigration will lose. 

They could randomize the order of the presidential primaries<<<

This would certainly re-calibrate the existing power structure - as derived by the current order of states - so as it'd eventually be more "fair" over time; however, wouldn't said "fairness" really just be a product of state-to-state equality vs. what might a broader question of whether or not any given state's sequential position in a primary ought to have influence over the national outcome?

If there must be a process that evolves over time, I'd much prefer stages that whittle down the field over time ... yet all states must vote for each stage on the same day.

We have to get over voting by state. Who feels loyalty to their state? Who still lives in the state they were born in?

National primary - one day. Just like the Nov. election. Anyone with enough support is in. Add up the votes nationwide, top two go head to head in Nov.

In Nov., no state totals. No electoral college. Just add 'em up.

>>>the electoral college is a hold out from slavery ya fucking tool bag.

4.2 and another slip and fall.

 

more like a consistent 3.0..

 

>>> We have to get over voting by state. Who feels loyalty to their state? Who still lives in the state they were born in? <<<
 

InBev and NFL in bed?

 

who cares it looks good...

 

you earned it.

 

You got Nashville?