Woodstock took place in the middle of a Pandemic

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More deadly than our current pandemic as well. Good read and it's interesting to see how our government has decided to treat this one completely different.
 

https://www.aier.org/article/woodstock-occurred-in-the-middle-of-a-pandemic/amp/

1969 = 5 or 6 airplanes and 3 dozen travelers. .. so different 

Pandemics have been part of human life since people started congregating in towns and villages thousands of years ago.   One thing that should be noted though is that the Hong Kong Flu killed about 100,000 Americans without the social distancing and other precautions being taken today.  Presumably, Covid-19 would have killed more by now without those precautions and we still have a way go.

We will see how it all pans out and there will be no shortage of Monday morning quarterbacks when all is said and done.

^^Lol.

The Hong Kong Flu killed an estimated 1 million people worldwide, btw

Maybe we are following the wrong playbook? We are going off of the 1918 playbook currently which killed twice the amount of people..... 

Hong Kong Flu, created in a lab in Jersey in an operation financed by Nixon to be disseminated on college campuses and large hippy gatherings in order to wipe out the scourge that is the youth anti-war movement. It was no match for the woodstock acid.

Social Distancing during Hong Kong Flu.

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I guess blaming Asia for viruses in the norm. Apparently, they say Spanish flu actually came from China 

The Wook Flu was created by the CIA and is planted in acid and molly. It's bioengineered to spread through schwilly brews.

Spain got a bad rap, that bug was Portuguese.

There was Dallas, from Phoenix; Cleveland - he was from Detroit; and Tex... well, I don't remember where Tex come from.

I caught the wook flu at that phil run at the cap in 2010. Not a great run and the sickness definitely sucked. 

Actually "Spanish Flu"  came from military base(s) in Kansas,  originally.

Bad batches of military inoculations or 'vaccines' started all that.

Spain had not entered the war quite yet,  so they still had 'Free Press' and could report the spread of the disease.

But the disease did not originate in Spain.

Yeah I know it was One Hundred years ago...  But anyone can do the basic research.

Wikipedia has it as inconclusive as to where it originated, and most likely neither Kansas or Spain.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

 

Well I already explained it,  so fuck Wikipedia.  It did not come from Spain,  but did come from Military bases in Kansas.

To repeat,  anyone can do basic research.

I hate repeating obvious stuff that I already said.

Aier.org?

https://www.aier.org/article/woodstock-occurred-in-the-middle-of-a-pande...

Love to get my takes on pandemics from folks dedicated to scientific method and as unbiased as Aier.org, oh wait:

AIER promotes the ideas of individual sovereignty, a limited government, and "a society based on property rights and open markets."[8] It is critical of socialism and of what it refers to as "coercive government intervention in economic affairs."[8] In a 1950 publication, the institute called "the struggle against communism ... crucial to the survival of Western Civilization."[9]

 

Gonna pass on taking science tips or pandemic response advice from economists worried about communists under the couch, but you do you.

Christ, between this shit and the Plandemic thread some of y'all have showed all your ass today.

Get a grip.

Having lived through both experiences, I seem to remember the HK flu being more of a problem in '68.
What I recollect while working in theater, a lot of cast members got it, including me. Lots of understudies filling in.
I remember family members having to be isolated as much as possible from my little sis, who had CF.
By the summer of '69, I don't recall the threat of catching it being a big deal. Maybe, because I already had it.
I also remember people being prescribed antibiotics to treat related infections.
This thing going around now ain't no flu.

>>>>>I seem to remember the HK flu being more of a problem in '68.

Yeah, the Hong Kong Flu pandemic started in mid-1968 and lasted until early 1969, so by Woodstock, it would have pretty much run its course. It is sometimes referred to as the "the 1968 flu pandemic":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu

They say it was brought over here by soldiers coming back from Vietnam.   Killed around 100,000 people in the US and other countries were hit hard too, including Germany where 60,000 died.  The corpses were stacked so high in Berlin, that garbage collectors had to bury the dead.  Half of the French workforce was out sick for a while.

But it was less deadly than some earlier 20th Century pandemics because of improved medical care, residual immunity from the 1957 Asian Flu, and the fact that peaked in the US during Christmas break while schools and colleges were closed.  

Terry ya Quito, yes the guy goes into some bias during the end of the article but the facts about that pandemic and this one are aligned. Are local, state and federal governments have told us there was never any pandemic like this and that was false. HK flu is buried in the back of your history as the events of 68-69 unfolded. Right now Covid 19 is the only the media seems to be pushing as a current event. And yes Covid 19 is a flu like virus. Obviously, one could argue that Hong Flu was not like the regular flu either as it wiped out 1 million people. While it's not "just the flu" it's transmitted virtually the same with a symptomatic people being able to give to others without knowing. The question still removing, why are we using the 1918 playbook? The lockdown isn't going to stop places like Walmart, target, Costco, Home Depot, Wegmans and Whole Foods being over run with people practically piling on top of each other day in and day out. Social distancing and shit downs everywhere expect those stores, right? The largest and most over run stores remain open with more human traffic than ever before but that's ok. Federal reserve dollars splurged to largest companies on the world while unemployed Americans wait two months to collect extended unemployment benefits. The hypocrisy is troubling and it seems they have built a "stay at home" movement on Facebook for those willing to believe that a pandemic has never happened like our current one. That's false though. 

https://kshs.org/kansapedia/flu-epidemic-of-1918/17805

Link from Kansas Historical Society explaining the Kansas origin of "Spanish" flu

https://www.kansas.com/news/local/article200880539.html#adnrb=900000

Another from the Wichita Eagle (yes it's an actual newspaper).

Isn't all this "stay at home" shit to flatten the curve? The idea is that the same number of people will get it, but over a longer period of time. It will alleviate the stress on the healthcare system so that they can better deal with it, and they can save more lives.

If that's the case, I guess it's working.

My big question is whether it's as necessary as they thought. It looks like the mortality rates are way, way lower than expected. That's assuming that the infection/exposed rates are up to 10x what we know. We don't really know because testing rates are abysmal. It may be no worse than the flu.

It seems that the best playbook for this would be to pinpoint the outbreaks and isolate those pockets, not everyone. Again, that comes down to testing.

I could be 100% wrong about all of this. It's hard to know because there's a lot of info out there, and not all "reliable sources" agree.

Here’s the WHO’s take on flu and this covid.
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/question-and-answers-hub/q-a-detail/q-a-similarities-and-differences-covid-19-and-influenza 

>>The question still removing, why are we using the 1918 playbook?
Not sure that we are, but it could be because, at the federal level, someone threw out the more recent playbook we had, which seemed to work a little better for at least the past SARS, MERS and Ebola outbreaks.
Of course, we can never know whether the defunct pandemic team would-a, should-a, could-a done any better in this case. Now, the scourge is here and needs to be dealt with. IMO, the national response has been more in line with third world tactics. It seems pretty clear that the national “leadership” response has been to defer to state and local governments and the private sector.

The Woodstock article seems to purport the argument for heard immunity to come to the rescue, which probably could work eventually or at least until antivirals or vaccines can be developed.
As an over 65 human, I personally do not wish to take any risks with this approach. I plan to try and avoid any contact with the new big C like the plague. Pun intended.
Looking back on my life, I’m sometime amazed I made it this far, but I’d like to stick around a little longer. I can still do a few things that make me happy and fulfilled. I still have a few things to offer my family and friends. Most of all, I’d like to see if I can croak from something a little more dignified than someone else’s mistakes or experiments.

Bk absolutely, but the Govenors and Mayors are in to deep.  Now they must stick to the script, "1 life lost is to many."

"I caught the wook flu at that phil run at the cap in 2010"

Since the Capital wasn't reopened until 2012 I think that wook flu messed with your memory.

Its not even a good comparison. Covid has killed nearly 80k Americans in the last month and a half. The flu referenced in the article killed 100k in a year. One of these diseases is deadlier than the other... I'll let you figure out which

The Hong Kong Flu lasted about six months, with its peak in the US around December, and killed 1 million worldwide.   Covid-19 has been spreading since January and has so far killed less people than the Hong Kong Flu.

But with this latest pandemic, people have been taking extraordinary measures to prevent it's spread and that has saved lives and made it less deadly than many other past pandemics.

It's been three months, Ned. First reports were early February. It's ok to ask why this pandemic has been treated differently, no? Why we are told to social distance but at target, Whole Foods, Walmart's and Wegmans it's ok to pile on top of each while small mom and pop shops aren't getting any help and saying out. Maybe we could ask why 2.2 trillion dollars was handed to the stock market within 24 hrs? Asking questions is ok, IMO. While the country is not willing to attempt "herd immunity" could that cost more lives in the end? How would we know? 

Sorry first report of Covid-19 in USA was January 19, 2020. Almost 4 months. 78.5k deaths