from tha biggest homie glenn greenwald
https://theintercept.com/2020/10/04/why-are-democrats-praying-for-the-sp...
The typical reaction to the death of a tyrant — whether by revolutionary violence or natural causes — is not one of grief and sadness but joyous celebration. It is not hard to understand why: when a nation and its oppressed citizenry are finally liberated from the suffocating, savage grip of fascist dictatorship, they feel joy for themselves, their families and the future of their nation. That is the same reason people have always hoped for, or work toward, the death of despots: they want to rid themselves of those who impose tyranny on them.
When Romanians learned in 1989 of the summary execution of their despised dictator Nicolae Ceausescu, “residents t[ook] to the streets to celebrate the downfall of the dictator.” In 2006, “many Chileans celebrated the death of dictator Augusto Pinochet,” as “a cacophony of horns sounded as hundreds of thousands took to streets and plazas across the country when it was announced the man who ruled ruthlessly for 17 years had died at age 91, a week after suffering a heart attack.” “Cuban dictator Fidel Castro is dead, so celebrate we will,” read a 2016 South Florida Sun-Sentinel op-ed by a Cuban-American who appeared to genuinely believe that Castro was a vicious dictator, and thus expressed the natural, normal reaction of someone who believes a country has been freed from the grip of a despot. So typical is this reaction to the death of a leader perceived as a dictator that history is replete with countless similar examples over many decades and across the world.
Yet in the U.S., a radically different dynamic is playing out. Over the past several years, but particularly in the months heading into the 2020 election, it has become extremely common for prominent Democrats and their media allies to refer to President Trump as a dictator, a fascist, a tyrant hellbent on destroying U.S. democracy, a genocidal racist, and even a Nazi. And yet, the overwhelming reaction in those mainstream precincts to the news that the fascist dictator has contracted a potentially lethal virus is to hope and pray that he makes a speedy recovery whereby he can resume his democracy-destroying, genocidal, tyrannical, fascist rule.
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MSNBC star Rachel Maddow began invoking Nazism and Hitler in connection with Trump as early as 2016, when Politico reported that, once Trump secured the GOP nomination, the on-air personality “has been reading up lately on Adolf Hitler’s rise to power in Germany, the MSNBC anchor told Rolling Stone, because that’s where she thinks the United States could be headed.” Maddow has notoriously spent the last four years manically obsessed with the claim that Trump has such a corrupt relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin that it is the Kremlin, thanks to Trump, which secretly runs the U.S. and is using that power to plot harm to large numbers of Americans by, for instance, seizing the power to cut off their heat in the dead of winter. Maddow was explicitly linking Trump to classic fascism as early as 2015.
Yet upon learning that the fascist, Kremlin-controlled, Nazi-like dictator had become ill, Maddow launched a one-woman crusade demanding that her fellow liberals pray earnestly for his recovery. She first posted an extremely effusive tweet: “God bless the president and the first lady. If you pray, please pray for their speedy and complete recovery…” Presumably in response to widespread liberal confusion and criticisms — wait, you spent four years telling us he’s a fascist racist Nazi-like despot and now you insist that we pray for his health? — Maddow devoted a segment on her show in which, with great passion and emotion, she urged her viewers to react to Trump’s COVID diagnosis with the same compassion and through the same prism as if a friend who smokes cigarettes learned she had lung cancer.
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How is this messaging — we hope the racist fascist genocidal Nazi-like dictator gets well soon and returns to work? — not creating extreme cognitive dissonance among those who believed that they actually were sincere in their maximalist denunciations and invocations of fascism and Nazism regarding Trump? Shouldn’t liberals not just be confused but overtly disgusted at their leaders who want Trump to survive and return in full health to imposing fascism and genocide on Americans?
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There are a few potential explanations that may account for this extremely unusual and confounding behavior of praying for, rather than against, the well-being of a fascist dictator. Perhaps Democratic leaders are simply pretending to be hoping for Trump’s well-being for political purposes while secretly hoping that he suffers and dies. Or perhaps national Democratic politicians have ascended to a state of spiritual elevation rarely seen in modern political history, in which they are capable of praying for even those they most dislike, including ones they believe are imposing fascism on their nation? Or perhaps, maybe more likely, Democratic leaders do not really believe the things they have spent four years saying about Trump and, like George W. Bush and Dick Cheney before him, are applying such labels of historic evil to him for political advantage but still see him as one of them, whom they intend to rehabilitate and honor once he is out of power.
Whatever else is true, their behavior upon hearing that someone they claim to regard as a genocidal racist fascist tyrant has contracted a fatal virus is extremely unusual when compared to how people throughout history react when learning of similar news. It is worth interrogating what accounts for such a baffling dynamic.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 01:31 pm
You're smart enough to know the answer, Daylight...
Wishing death upon another human is bad optics
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 01:40 pm
So that they can lock him up
So that they can lock him up in prison. Duh.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 01:43 pm
I haven't wished him to be
I haven't wished him to be killed or die in office because his cult would martyrize him. Fuck that. Vote him out and send him to prison.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 01:46 pm
Better yet, exile him. Why
Better yet, exile him. Why should the U.S. taxpayers be on the hook for his upkeep? Give him a shack in Guantanamo Bay and a fishing pole.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 01:52 pm
The guy is neither fascist
The guy is neither fascist nor a dictator. He's a loud-mouth wannabe for both. The dude is too incompetent to successfully be either.
I don't wish him a speedy recovery. I'm content being a "horrible person" for what I wish for him and his cabal.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 02:24 pm
I'm telling you, he will buy
I'm telling you, he will buy Greenland (with Russian financing) and set up Trumpland, and he will be King. Then sell condos.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 02:40 pm
He's a waste of oxygen, and
He's a waste of oxygen, and anything that takes him down is OK by me, as long as it takes Pence too.
>>>>>perhaps national Democratic politicians have ascended to a state of spiritual elevation rarely seen in modern political history, in which they are capable of praying for even those they most dislike, including ones they believe are imposing fascism on their nation?
Pelosi claims she prays for Trump every day.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 03:04 pm
>>>>Wishing death upon
>>>>Wishing death upon another human is bad optics
Yep. People wishing death on Trump aren't going to vote for the guy, but there might be a handful of people still on the fence about him that might feel some little bit of sympathy and if publicly extending customary well wishes will help avoid alienating those undecided voters, it should be done.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 04:36 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giDttMU-k00
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: krab groad1123
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 05:29 pm
Michael Moore said it best.
Michael Moore said it best. He wants him around to not get another 4 years in office. Let him live the rest of his life as a loser.
And hopefully, as a convicted, tax avoiding felon. having wild seat sex with his new roommates. That is not part of Moore's answer..
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 05:30 pm
I just said a prayer for you
I just said a prayer for you Ben
and for Bry
I sure as hell will lift a glass when the Nazi leaves the whitehouse
wanted , dead or alive
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 06:40 pm
Maybe I'm Immune (James
Maybe I'm Immune (James Corden)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C76XMCJCVs
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: MarkD ntfdaway
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 07:10 pm
Anyone that thinks chump will
Anyone that thinks chump will do a day in prison is delusional. Best he just go away now.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 09:39 pm
Prayer? Hahaha. Let me know
Prayer? Hahaha. Let me know how that works out.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 10:30 pm
joe biden will be having
joe biden will be having dinner with trump sometime in the next 4 years if he wins. no doubt. just having fun. laughing.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 11:42 pm
For the flies (Eyes) of the
For the flies (Eyes) of the world, Dr. Benway.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 11:42 pm
For the flies (Eyes) of the
Double
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline Localcountyline
on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 – 11:51 pm
Totally agree Mark.
Totally agree Mark.
He will never do a day in prison.
The new "Teflon Don."
I have a bet with my brother for a nice bottle of red.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: smiley 73guy
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 10:49 am
Because want him to live a
Because want him to live a long life rotting in jail without his Rogaine, bronzer, girdle and shoe lifts as he watches his world turn to ash, his vision rejected by the entire world, his children imprisoned and his grandchildren change their names to distance themselves from his poisonous legacy.
Was this a trick question?