Um, ok, well,....we weren't really helping the Russians, were we?*
I must have missed this during the White House's NFL briefings.
*I still have zero idea why we had troops in Niger, other than apparently the war on terror allows us to invade every country in the world in search of terrists?
This lady seems to know her shit and is calling BS on Maddow's linking the ambush to Chadian pullouts, claims the Chadian units were positioned 700 miles away from the ambush area so the Chadian units being in Niger or not had nothing to do with it.
I saw lots of refugees from Mali that had walked into Senegal to escape. These are some of the people that then work their way north and get on those little boats to Europe.
>On October 4, a small group of U.S. troops were preparing to leave a meeting with community leaders near the small town of Tongo Tongo in Niger. They were close to the Malian border, traveling in unarmored pick-up trucks with limited weaponry and a few dozen of their Nigerien counterparts. Then they were ambushed.
By the time the more than 30-minute assault was over, three U.S. troops were confirmed dead and two more were gravely injured. Another, Sergeant La David Johnson, was missing and his body would not be recovered for another two days. French aircraft, called in for back-up, circled overhead as fire was exchanged below. They later helped to evacuate survivors.
This account, based on public statements from the Trump administration, interviews with U.S. Africa Command officials; former State Department and intelligence officials; and the man who almost served as the senior director for Africa on the National Security Council, along with additional reporting from other news outlets like CNN and The Washington Post, suggests a direct link between the fatal ambush and the absence of a clear strategy or perhaps even a cursory understanding of U.S. operations in Africa by the Trump administration...
...The U.S. military has been training soldiers from Niger since the early 2000s. Their aim has largely been to improve the country’s military capacity—to turn them into a force that can not only handle threats like terrorism on its own, but can also eventually train itself. But in recent years, the U.S. footprint in Niger has grown, mainly to meet the threat of extremists spilling into the country from neighboring Mali and Nigeria.
U.S. Africa Command spokesperson Patrick Barnes said in a phone call that the military relationship with Niger grew from trainings to regular rotations of U.S. troops in 2011, as well as “accompanying and assisting” instead of just running short-lived trainings. Now, there are roughly 800 U.S. servicemen and women assigned to Niger, including some special forces. In the northern town of Agadez, for example, Barnes said there are “a few hundred Air Force” personnel, and other Americans assisting in surveillance out of the capital of Niamey. As for this latest incident, he said AFRICOM is “going to let the investigation run its course.”
“In the process of doing that, we'll see if there are things we could have done differently that will help us going forward,” Barnes said.
To a large degree, this part of Africa has served as a backstage for the global theater of America’s war on terrorism. The United States has quietly prepared troops there to handle counterterrorism operations, including against al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the group that at one point temporarily took hold of northern Mali. Washington has also provided support to Niger and other countries fighting Boko Haram, a Nigeria-based group that has killed tens of thousands of people in the Lake Chad region. The United States now runssurveillance operations out of northern Cameroon to boost that effort.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GravyTrain Gravytrain
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 07:29 pm
We need at least 21 hearings
We need at least 21 hearings a la Benghazi
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 07:30 pm
We were helping a Russian
We were helping a Russian operation that they have going on in the area, a little oil-for protection racket. It’s all good.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 07:36 pm
I knew what if be getting
I knew what if be getting into if I joined the military.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 07:38 pm
Why would the Russians need
Why would the Russians need oil? They have lots.
Um, ok, well,....we weren't really helping the Russians, were we?*
I must have missed this during the White House's NFL briefings.
*I still have zero idea why we had troops in Niger, other than apparently the war on terror allows us to invade every country in the world in search of terrists?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 07:49 pm
February 6, 2007
February 6, 2007
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Enduring_Freedom_%E2%80%93_Trans...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 07:51 pm
awesome.
awesome.
OK, now I have to care about my nephew getting killed in
10 more countries.**well, that was just what I read about "Operation Enduring Freedom - Trans Sahara"....I suppose we have many more versions.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 07:54 pm
The war on terror respects no
The war on terror respects no border
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GravyTrain Gravytrain
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 07:55 pm
Apparently we were “invited”
Apparently we were “invited” there in 2013.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/26/niger-africa-drones-us-terror
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 08:01 pm
Is it Kerry or Clinton's
Is it Kerry or Clinton's fault?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GravyTrain Gravytrain
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 08:05 pm
Trumpghazi
Trumpghazi
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Oaksterdam Dan Nugstradamus
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 08:19 pm
Middle East cray cray's
Middle East cray cray's taking advantage of weak African countries.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 08:22 pm
Just now. After Trump told
Just now. After Trump told Russia about our raid there and Russia told Isis.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 08:31 pm
they mine bitcoins
they mine bitcoins
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: free bird fly high
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 09:04 pm
we've always been at war with
we've always been at war with Niger
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GravyTrain Gravytrain
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 09:08 pm
146 countries, currently,
146 countries, currently, with active US military “advisors”
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 09:38 pm
Trump added Chad to the
Trump added Chad to the travel ban list after Chad couldn't supply a passport sample due to lack of the correct paper.
Chad had been supplying most of the security in Niger for several years in the fight against Islamic terrorists.
Chad had just finished withdrawing its troops from Niger in response to being put on the travel ban list when the US troops were killed.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 09:41 pm
>>>>>we've always been at war
>>>>>we've always been at war with Niger
Or was that Nigeria?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fly Fly
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 09:46 pm
They're always making plans..
They're always making plans......for Nigel.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 09:53 pm
Maybe Trump is afraid to talk
Maybe Trump is afraid to talk about what happened in Niger because he's afraid of mispronouncing it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 10:30 pm
https://www.wsj.com/articles
https://www.wsj.com/articles/death-of-u-s-soldiers-in-niger-sparks-fbi-p...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 10:33 pm
https://www.cfr.org/blog/chad
https://www.cfr.org/blog/chad-removes-hundreds-soldiers-nigerien-region-...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 10:33 pm
https://www.reuters.com
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-niger-security-chad/chad-withdraws-tr...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 10:35 pm
https://www.msn.com/en-us
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mccain-white-house-not-forthcomi...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 10:53 pm
I’ve got the set list
I’ve got the set list
Set 1
Chad runs out of passport paper>Chad gets put on travel ban list
Chad pulls out of Niger>USA enters Niger>USA gets fucked
long set break (like 12 days)
Set 2
Have you called the dead soldier’s families yet?
OBAMA IS SUCH AN ASSHOLE TOO
whoa what happened in Niger?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Friday, October 20, 2017 – 04:50 am
We're only making plans for
We're only making plans for Niger . . .
Sorry.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: gypsy tailwind T.O.D.
on Friday, October 20, 2017 – 10:30 am
Niger is no slouch as far as
Niger is no slouch as far as having Oil and Uranium.
So I imagine no one wants to get there hands on that...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Friday, October 20, 2017 – 10:36 am
https://twitter.com
https://twitter.com/texasinafrica/status/921246994429079552
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Friday, October 20, 2017 – 10:41 am
This lady seems to know her
This lady seems to know her shit and is calling BS on Maddow's linking the ambush to Chadian pullouts, claims the Chadian units were positioned 700 miles away from the ambush area so the Chadian units being in Niger or not had nothing to do with it.
https://twitter.com/texasinafrica/status/921205014483427328
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: gypsy tailwind T.O.D.
on Friday, October 20, 2017 – 10:46 am
^^^ lol
^^^ lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Friday, October 20, 2017 – 10:49 am
There may have been no
There may have been no tactical connection, but i'm thinking the terrorists were probably emboldened knowing Chad was pulling out.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: waterburyguy Waterbury Guy
on Friday, October 20, 2017 – 10:58 am
How is Trump ever going to
How is Trump ever going to spell Niger correctly on Twitter?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Friday, October 20, 2017 – 11:02 am
Worried about the dreaded
Worried about the dreaded double g.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Friday, October 20, 2017 – 11:03 am
Niger must be extremely
Niger must be extremely frustrated with Chad constantly pulling out prematurely.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq aiq
on Friday, October 20, 2017 – 11:37 am
War is peace.
War is peace.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: gypsy tailwind T.O.D.
on Friday, October 20, 2017 – 11:56 am
Chadian Military are the
Chadian Military are the leading experts in the Region for fighting ISIS.
After Chad was placed on TRUMPS Travel Ban.
They began pulling out of Niger...
Those 4 were killed on routine patrol that they've been making for 6 months.
*Chadian Government in 2016, sued Exxon Mobile for Back Taxes and Royalties owed to them.
The courts ruled in favor of Chad to the tune of 74 Billion dollars*
Exxon Mobile has paid ZERO!
Why was Chad put on TRUMPS Travel Ban?
Why so quiet Rex??
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GravyTrain Gravytrain
on Friday, October 20, 2017 – 12:01 pm
So these would be the first U
So these would be the first U.S. deaths as a result of Trump's travel ban???
No wonder he won't talk about it....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Friday, October 20, 2017 – 11:02 pm
https://www.newyorker.com
https://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/john-kelly-and-the-dangerous-m...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: (~)};)StealYourFace WALSTIB
on Friday, October 20, 2017 – 11:19 pm
Set 2 con't
Set 2 con't
Trump offends widow>insults congresswomen>
Kelly/Huckabee Duo.smear congresswomen>
Bengazi>
where is Niger? reprise
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius Thom2
on Saturday, October 21, 2017 – 08:48 am
When Obama was President.
When Obama was President.
Try to keep up.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Saturday, October 21, 2017 – 08:58 am
>When Obama was President.
>When Obama was President.
was he ever here at all
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: I rang a silent bell China-Rider
on Saturday, October 21, 2017 – 09:02 am
I saw lots of refugees from
I saw lots of refugees from Mali that had walked into Senegal to escape. These are some of the people that then work their way north and get on those little boats to Europe.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Saturday, October 21, 2017 – 09:21 am
>>> When Obama was President.
>>> When Obama was President.
>>> Try to keep up.
Seems to have started in 2002.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Enduring_Freedom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Saharan_Counterterrorism_Initiative
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Sahel_Initiative
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: smiley 73guy
on Saturday, October 21, 2017 – 09:25 am
<<<How is Trump ever going to
<<<How is Trump ever going to spell Niger correctly on Twitter
this will really test the limits of autocorrect.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Saturday, October 21, 2017 – 10:48 am
>>Trump offends widow>insults congresswomen>
Kelly/Huckabee Duo.smear congresswomen>
Bengazi>
where is Niger? reprise
Trump tweets about 'wacky' CongressWoman this morning.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Saturday, October 21, 2017 – 10:54 am
https://www.theatlantic.com
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/10/niger-isis-us-...
>On October 4, a small group of U.S. troops were preparing to leave a meeting with community leaders near the small town of Tongo Tongo in Niger. They were close to the Malian border, traveling in unarmored pick-up trucks with limited weaponry and a few dozen of their Nigerien counterparts. Then they were ambushed.
By the time the more than 30-minute assault was over, three U.S. troops were confirmed dead and two more were gravely injured. Another, Sergeant La David Johnson, was missing and his body would not be recovered for another two days. French aircraft, called in for back-up, circled overhead as fire was exchanged below. They later helped to evacuate survivors.
This account, based on public statements from the Trump administration, interviews with U.S. Africa Command officials; former State Department and intelligence officials; and the man who almost served as the senior director for Africa on the National Security Council, along with additional reporting from other news outlets like CNN and The Washington Post, suggests a direct link between the fatal ambush and the absence of a clear strategy or perhaps even a cursory understanding of U.S. operations in Africa by the Trump administration...
...The U.S. military has been training soldiers from Niger since the early 2000s. Their aim has largely been to improve the country’s military capacity—to turn them into a force that can not only handle threats like terrorism on its own, but can also eventually train itself. But in recent years, the U.S. footprint in Niger has grown, mainly to meet the threat of extremists spilling into the country from neighboring Mali and Nigeria.
U.S. Africa Command spokesperson Patrick Barnes said in a phone call that the military relationship with Niger grew from trainings to regular rotations of U.S. troops in 2011, as well as “accompanying and assisting” instead of just running short-lived trainings. Now, there are roughly 800 U.S. servicemen and women assigned to Niger, including some special forces. In the northern town of Agadez, for example, Barnes said there are “a few hundred Air Force” personnel, and other Americans assisting in surveillance out of the capital of Niamey. As for this latest incident, he said AFRICOM is “going to let the investigation run its course.”
“In the process of doing that, we'll see if there are things we could have done differently that will help us going forward,” Barnes said.
To a large degree, this part of Africa has served as a backstage for the global theater of America’s war on terrorism. The United States has quietly prepared troops there to handle counterterrorism operations, including against al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the group that at one point temporarily took hold of northern Mali. Washington has also provided support to Niger and other countries fighting Boko Haram, a Nigeria-based group that has killed tens of thousands of people in the Lake Chad region. The United States now runssurveillance operations out of northern Cameroon to boost that effort.