What should the USofA do about the election attacks?

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What is the proper response? 

Who deserves to be punished and what punishment is suitable? 

 

 

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Knotseau....have you ever read a newspaper?

It should be treated as an act of war.

Ask a tough question, get a tougher question. 

Yes, Ned. The papers said we were "attacked". 

I'm unclear how we retaliate effectively. 

Why don't you just lay out what you're thinking instead of asking everyone else to think for you.

I'm guessing you don't think this is on the same level as an "attack" since you put it in "quotes".

How was the attack different from what Fox News and Fox Nation do daily? 

Derpy McDerp.

>>>>>It should be treated as an act of war

 

 

What is acceptable collateral damage? 

>>>>>It should be treated as an act of war

 

 

What is acceptable collateral damage?<<<

 

Zero tolerance

It is worse than attacking command and control infrastructure in that elections represent the conduit of the sovereignty of a Republic.   As to the essential nature of a Republic:  there are some things you can replace and others you can not ... elections fall into the latter camp (even the most sophisticated command and control can always be rebuilt).

what should venezuela do about our election interference in theirs?

^^is nuclear strike on the table?

How many monarchs would allow their sovereignty to be challenged by a foreign entity without repercussions?

i like how americans are like "woah man", "like i can't believe this shit"...

 

CIA = No. 1 election meddler ever.  MI-6 isn't too shabby either.

Same as it ever was.

So the CIA meddling is an act of war against the American people because of the potential backlash from the affected countries. What retaliation against the election meddlers should we take? Mini nukes, anthrax?

 

     First, I'd like to express my sincere condolences to Judit on the passing of her mother, you've been an invaluable member of this community, I know you must have been a pillar of strength in your support, love & comfort to your mom.  

     This is a very approachable article for people who may not be well versed in the counter discussion, I thought it would be useful to the group.  If you take 15 minutes or so to honestly comprehend the dynamics of the gambit...the opening moves of the chess match, it will go a long ways towards establishing a "holistic" understanding of the events that led up to this moment in history.

     https://m.theepochtimes.com/spygate-the-true-story-of-collusion_2684629....

     Peace 

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so the us meddling in the israeli elections was an act of war? so much for no scandal obama

Crippling Sanctions for a start.

But really why bother asking.

With dip shit at large in charge, absolutely nothing will be done.

Sanctions will hurt the Russian people. Are you ok with inflicting suffering against our fellow human beings? Are you a republican?

What were the top 5 bogus Facebook ads that swayed the rust belt? 

What they are doing is ongoing.  We aren't alone. Canada,  UK, all democracies are under attack.  

 

Russia, China, Iran,  N Korea, Brazil (maduro) vs. Democracy

 

China hacks the fuck out of us. Boycott huawei

>Brazil (maduro)<

 

Do you mean Venezuela(Maduro) or Brazil (Bolsonaro)?

>>>>>What they are doing is ongoing.

 

The POTUS keeps tweeting lies. Fox News lies all day. 

 

    "What they are doing is ongoing.  We aren't alone. Canada,  UK, all democracies are under attack."

     Though I could not caution all, I still might warn a few...please use extreme caution when viewing YouTube videos or social media posts prior to the upcoming election.  You may be mesmerized...rendering you incapable of casting a vote for the candidate of your choice.  It's a serious problem, we need to be vigilant as a democracy, if you see anyone with a peculiar look in their eye on or about election day, please take appropriate measures to make sure they aren't unduly influenced.  

     

 

 

^Have you read the Mueller report yet?

It's a serious problem<<<

Just how much of a pretzel are you willing to contort yourself into?

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Sanctions = hurt population = regime change

They had that motherfucker putin on the ropes just a few years ago.

Time could be ripe again - soon as there's a Dem, who recognizes what our enemy looks like,  in the white house.

We've been "attacking" other sovereign nation's elections for as long as we've been a nation. So has pretty much every other major nation and probably a good percentage of smaller nations, all in the name of self-interest. Maybe the only real answer will be for every nation to go to war with any nation affected and when the smoke settles start over. 

Should we "attack" Russia with some aggressive Facebooking of our own?

Hey bry Im not on Facebook and I don't have cable or satellite or internet at my house.  I zone from my phone. Im not watching tv from my phone or getting any news i have to save my data. Instead I watch local tv...abc, cbs nbc and i get 2 toronto Tv stations for free. Thats how I get my news little buddy. Im certainly not watching fox even if I could. too biased

^^Pretty sure that's the ongoing part slack.

We've been "attacking" other sovereign nation's elections for as long as we've been a nation. So has pretty much every other major nation and probably a good percentage of smaller nations, all in the name of self-interest. Maybe the only real answer will be for every nation to go to war with any nation affected and when the smoke settles start over<<<

Should every "act of war" require a like kind response?

Calling out an adversary is one thing, but actually going to war is quite another.

Our hands are very likely not clean on the international stage; at the same time, should said policy decisions made by people working in government be cause for the entire population to relinquish the expectation of a reliable, valid, and fair electoral process?

 

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     note:  I may have mentioned this in another thread, it's just my opinion...but I'm often correct, none of us would recognize the Grateful Dead if it weren't for the Kingston Trio.

You mean Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs.

>>>it's just my opinion...but I'm often correct

you live in Utah, huh? good

 

     From today's daytime television

 

  

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Getting any offers bry? I could make a call or two maybe put in the good word on your behalf.  

 

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     Your knowledge of events is reward enough for me...I never amassed a huge collection of material objects.  I do have a hand knit  sweater that is an original piece of artwork, knitted by the family that raised the sheep in Switzerland.  It's the cover of the Aoxomoxoa album, I was in talks with the Grateful Dead Archive at the McHenry Library in Santa Cruz, it would also be fitting for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, or the Smithsonian...it's a relic of rock & roll history, the Grateful Dead were the best we had to give, the best in the history of the republic.

 

     note:  the back of the sweater is the back of the album, it's pretty amazing 

 

 

     correction:  I believe the sheep providing the wool, and the family knitting the sweater were from Scotland.

Oh bry

You're as kill as the fucking gig.gov kook.

 

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     a true gentleman 

 

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     Hampton Coliseum...the last East Coast Jerry Garcia Band show ever

You'd think it'd ultimately be tiresome to constantly have to "run into the shower and vigorously scrub yourself while repeating 'not clean', 'not clean', ...."

Or is it simply the "platform" you crave?

 

>You're as kill as the fucking gig.gov kook<

 

Gig dude's narrative was more believable. 

 

Plus gig.gov dude never defended pedophiles

 

     I've been thinking for a few days how to respond to this trash, it's a complete mischaracterization of my thoughts and contributions to this message board, I hesitate to wander into the mud & the muck of this engineered conflict, one thought would be to let it die it's own death as a thinly veiled attempt to bash Catholicism, but I thought maybe I should address it.  I never once, and please go through every post I've ever made...defended anyone that has molested children, I have on many occasions, and will continue, to defend the Catholic Church.  This obvious ploy to conflate the two is on it's face at best a sad attempt to twist reality, at worst a path of least resistance to the age-old bigotry of Catholic bashing.

 

     on a lighter note...

     https://youtu.be/REu2BcnlD34

Conflate the two? The Church did everything in its power conceal the decades of abuse.  The children the raped by these monsters were not important to the Church leaders, their goal was to protect the Church, not the children...

 

 

New York archdiocese releases names of dozens of Catholic clergy 'credibly accused' of child sex abuse

By Chris FrancescaniApr 26, 2019, 9:27 PM ET

 

One of the largest Catholic archdioceses in the nation released the names on Friday of dozens of priests and deacons “credibly accused” of sexually abusing minors, along with a letter of apology from New York’s powerful archbishop, Cardinal Timothy Dolan, seeking forgiveness “for the failings of those clergy and bishops who should have provided for the safety of our young people but instead betrayed the trust placed in them by God and by the faithful.”

About half of the 120 priests and deacons on the list released by New York’s sprawling archdiocese have passed away, while the rest have been defrocked or otherwise dismissed from their ministries, though a handful of the named clergy are still appealing their dismissals.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/york-archdiocese-releases-names-dozens-catholi...

 

 

Education 

 

     "defended pedophiles"

     "I never once, and please go through every post I've ever made...defended anyone that has molested children, I have on many occasions, and will continue, to defend the Catholic Church."

     So, find an instance that justifies your constantly spewing this garbage all over every thread where you don't have a leg to stand on involving completely different subject matter, i.e. scrambling for an excuse as to why Russia caused Hillary to lose the election.  

Who are you quoting?  Yourself? 

 

     Try to keep up Greg

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Brayin', for decades the Catholic church has concealed and enabled the rape of thousands of children.  The leaders felt that they needed to protect the Church. 

Your claim that criticism of the church's role in the sexual abuse of children is nothing but anti Catholic bias, is a defense of the pedophile priests. 

 

 

     The point being, pick a thread, any thread, where Lumber is cornered in his bankrupt fantasy that his hero in life Hillary would have won the Rust Belt but for the fact that Vladimir somehow coerced the good people of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan & Wisconsin to walk into voting booths and pull the lever for Trump against their will, and out of nowhere the Catholic Church is bashed because after all...bigotry is the new black.

 

 

There you go again, Brayin',  the Catholic church is being bashed because it is complicit in the rape of thousands of children. Your unwillingness to admit this is very illuminating. 

 

Read the Mueller report if you want a summary of Russia's efforts during the 2016 campaign. 

 

     Go crawl back under your rock.

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