What is the deal with TOILET PAPER?
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Just got back from a 2 week camping trip, giving me plenty of time to ponder what the heck is going on with people who use toilet paper. Specifically, I mean toilet paper left on the ground in otherwise lovely nature setting. It has become a game, finding the toilet paper at every beautiful spot. Who are these people who think it is OK to wipe and leave paper on the ground? I guess some small percentage are women who are being taken to experience nature for the first time, like some suburban housewife whose husband just got a Harley and wants to take the long way from church to Applebees and they have never been to a place without a ladies room. I guess I can give them a pass. But I find TP everywhere, including at places that people had to WORK to get to, as well as at all the easily accessed beautiful places, and places with obvious alternatives for peeing or paper disposal. I find TP in campgrounds that have TOILETS where you also presume that people also have a receptacle for their soda cans and paper plates even if they are too lazy to walk to the toilet. I am talking about white paper, suggesting that this is not TP left by someone who had to take an emergency shit. This is just plain old #1 pee paper, left by people who were prepared enough to bring TP to the spot, but too delicate to either shake it dry or to carry it out or use a vault toilet.
I have peed in the woods a lot, shaking it is the common practice. If I do need to use paper, it would never occur to me to just leave it on the ground. But sooooo many people do. Who are these people? Do you bring TP for your wife when you go hiking so that she can leave it on the trail? If you are that prepared maybe you can bring a bag for her to put it in? Ladies, if you are so proper that you need to use TP instead of shaking it dry, why do you think pieces of paper with your urine on them are appropriate to leave around?
TP is by far the most plentiful litter. Fess up, why are you people leaving TP everywhere? If not you then your neighbors and friends. You will not be spared the purges.
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I dig hole, burn the paper,
I dig hole, burn the paper, fill hole. Then i shake a lot.
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Who doesn't like filling
Who doesn't like filling holes?
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https://www.pcta.org/2017/lnt
https://www.pcta.org/2017/lnt-pee-rag-hiking-46566/
I use a pee rag for hiking. It's really not as gross as it sounds. Washed it everyday, no paper needed to pee.
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https://www.phantasytour.com
https://www.phantasytour.com/bands/phish/threads/4307962/house-guest-ref...
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Never realized people used
Never realized people used paper re: pee?!?
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Shake it up baby
Shake it up baby
Twist and shout
Don't leave paper
Lying about
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Wow the Family Cloth. I've
Wow the Family Cloth. I've spent my fair share of time in some hippie households but thankfully never came across the Family Cloth.
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Uh... excuse me. Umm... I'm
Uh... excuse me. Umm... I'm sorry. This is... this is kind of embarrassing but there's no toilet paper over he
Are you talking to me?
Yeah. I just forgot to check. So if you could just spare me some.
No, I'm sorry.
What?
No I'm sorry, I can't spare it.
You can't spare it?
No, there's not enough to spare.
Well I don't need much. Just 3 squares will do it.
I'm sorry. I don't have a square to spare. Now if you don't mind.
3 squares? you can't spare 3 squares?
No, I don't have a square to spare. I can't spare a square.
Oh, is it two-ply? Cause if it's two-ply, I'll take one ply. One ply, one, one! puny little ply, I'll take one measly ply.
Look, I don't have a square and I don't have a ply.
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Een Rassia, is using hotel
Een Rassia, is using hotel bed sheets.
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Not sure if I find it
Not sure if I find it stranger when people hiked 5 miles just so they can leave TP or if they got out of the car and left TP at the scenic overlook. Or, like I said, at the campsite when you probably had a car and a garbage bag and a cooler and there might even be a bathroom.
In other news, we also visited a brewery where parents brought the training potty for the kid to sit there and learn to use the potty on a patio where strangers are drinking beer. This might explain why there weren't to many strangers (cornhole board is also the changing station), but still. Plus this was next to a busy road. I guess there is something to be said about helping a kid to not be shy. If I restaurant I would have a "No training pottys on the patio" rule.
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A roll that's made for poo.
A roll that's made for poo.
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down by the carson river
down by the carson river
I found some TP
actually more than some... a lot. and fresh massives, right there on the sand where you would want to walk bare foot into the river.
I blame meth.
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It's not meth, Googly.
It's not meth, Googly.
It's a complete show of slovenly laziness and disrespect for human dignity.
I support prison sentences for leaving TP in a wilderness area.
Leaving your trash in a natural setting is a clear sign of someone wanting to get in a fight, almost a direct chalenge.
Leaving used TP is a sign of someone wanting to be beaten into the hospital like a NAZI..
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I hate seeing it in the
I hate seeing it in the wilderness, but I ain't gonna punch anybody over it.
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I don't pack my used TP out..
hope I don't get punched, but I don't pack my used TP out.
I find an out of the way place where I bury it with my poop and cover the grave with a big ass rock... not that anyone's gonna find it, but that scent free, one ply will decompose faster than the fecal remnants anyway.
Piute Pass (started at North Lake, West of Bishop). day one of six a couple weeks ago.
GTTS!
(go to the sierra)
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or...if in oklahoma...
or...if in oklahoma...
just look for a sink
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I can live with burying it in
I can live with burying it in a safe and sane manner, but if some critter digs it up we'll ID you by your DNA and have a "talk"
Mostly I am talking about people who casually take a squat to pee and then say "Well, it's behind a tree so I think I'll leave some trash here".
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Nice pic Hall, 6 days out,
Nice pic Hall, 6 days out, cool. Any sketchy water-crossings? I can't wait to get back.
Going to do section 5 of the JMT next year Onion Valley to Whitney Portal. I heard you can't bury on Whitney and you have to pack out.....icky poo pie.
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I thought they made you use
I thought they made you use those poo sacks all over that part of the sierra, or at least on the JMT.
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As far as I can tell, they
I believe they are required just on the Mountain.
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I hike Mount Whitney when
I hiked Mount Whitney when they still had the solar toilets - which were removed in 2004.
Go hike to the summit of an adjacent peak and skip Mt Whitney if you have to carry your poo out. Seriously, Whitney is overrated, over traveled and when we reached the summit jets were buzzing the peak. So many better trails and summits..
I'll admit to using Hall's technique when backpacking. Never left any paper in the woods though on day hikes and do my best to leave no trace - even though if you dig deep enough and look under the rock you might find something.
May Lake in Yosemite has a nice flush toilet, just FYI.
And while I was traveling in Thailand I got used to using NO paper at all - poor man's bidet wasn't so bad. Just a hose next to the primitive "toilet"
Shake it, Shake it Sugaree just don't tell them you know..
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Poop sacks only required in
Poop pouches are only required in the "Whitney Zone", everywhere else rangers tell you to bury your poop and pack out your TP.
Jamjuice, the water is still pumping in places, but definitely not as bad as earlier in the Summer... the sketchiest was a frost covered log over a fast running chest deep creek... I scotted across on my butt when no one was watching.
And I did that Onion Valley>Whitney trip a few years ago... it was awesome! I've wanted to go back and explore the area between Forester Passand the Kaweahs ever since, so I've already planned a 9 day solo trip for next year (entering Shepherd Pass and exiting Onion Valley via Lake South America, with a side trip to the Whaleback via Colby Pass)... it's a year away, but I'm already getting pumped!
a few more pics from this last trip...
Pine Creek Falls (still tons of water).
super lush... shrooms of all types were popping up all over the place.
Peaks and meadow on the Granite Park/Italy Pass trail
closer look at the meadow
sunrise from camp at Honeymoon Lake
we had a lot of crazy thunder, lightning and heavy rain during this trip...
GTTS!
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Wow those pictures are
Wow those pictures are stunning. Some pure Sierra goodness right there..... and in a toilet paper thread. Thank you, lol.
I just looked up Whaleback, right on. Hard to get there, but rewarding I am sure. Might just have to put that on my list.
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jamjuice, viva toilet paper
jamjuice, viva toilet paper thread are nothing short of spectacular!
Thanks, Hall.