What About Bamboo ??

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Not the infamous 70's rolling papers,  rather the Asian plant...

Thinking of using 8' + stalks for Deer Fence.

They built cages out of the stuff in all the Viet Cong flicks,  but will it lock out the Deer ??

They build scaffolding out of it 80 stories high in Malaysia!

It's all in the lashings, I'd think.   You need to procure a bunch of sinew.   Or maybe reeds?   Or start spinning some twine.

I've got a mess of baling twine (the stuff which holds Hay-Bales together) however,  I'd prefer to use a cordless drill / driver and screws.  Problem with twine is it can get tangled up in mower blades or other farm equipment.  A neighbour Farmer told me a tale of the stuff ruining an expen$$ive gear-box on some equipment.

Have seen the bamboo scaffolding in various tropical countries.  Thinking Colombia and Puerto Rico.

What I'm thinking about doesn't need to support people,  bricks,  shingles, but has to keep Deer out.

There's an invasive species of bamboo in CT that was brought in to control brush on the highways.  The state didn't understand at the time of planting that nothing short of a nuclear bomb can stop the growth.  You could build a fence around your whole property.  

Jonas,

Do you know how I might get in contact w/ people in CT.  D.O.T. or similar,  to arrange a few truckloads ??

Rather not drive all the way to CT,  but maybe there is a state grant to cover some gas & toll $$ to help eradicate the stuff.

People in NJ are often getting rid of the stuff,  but that's hit or miss on craigslist.

"but will it lock out the Deer ??"

Spike the tops.

Do not plant bamboo on your property.   DO NOT!  It's cool looking and great for privacy but  you will come to regret it, along with make some enemy neighbors in the process.

The stuff has been causing a hubbub on my block for over a decade.     3 or 4 people planted it and shared it a while back.

To say you cannot get rid of it is an understatement.    Controlling it is even damn near impossible.    One guy buried aluminum coil going down 24" around his WHOLE YARD.    That kept it at bay for a season or two and then it was growing right into the adjoining neighbors yard again.   It is now illegal to plant anywhere in the township for the last 5 or so years.

I love to look at it, but I didn't plant any in my yard.  Thankfully my next door neighbors are the buffer between me and the ones who did.   And I still fear that first shoot coming up on my property from an abnormally long runner.     

I have to get pics my friend's yard who was the first one to plant it.   It been about 15 years and he has ZERO livable yard space left.   There are only paths his dogs have worn through the jungle... that a person can barely make it through.

I have long said that the only way to remove it now is going to be to remove 2-4 feet of topsoil from the entire property and have it trucked away and replaced.

This is the 'burbs of L.I. though and not the Jersey woods, so YMMV.

I'm not a NIMBY type of guy, but if anyone plants any of that shit anywhere near me I will raise holy hell.   But the existing quabbles over it make it so that I don't have to be the one to do it and somebody always beats me to it. 

Bamboo is the great divider.    It should keep the deer out just fine!   Just make sure the poles you use are completely dead.   If you see a single green leaf, RUN!

Not sure Stu.  Check DEP website.    

It's nasty stuff w/an astounding growth rate.  Inches a day up and possibly feet per day underground.  I was able to control mine because it became an obsession back at our first house when I was in my early 20's.  These days I would not fuck with it.  

 

 

What Vuvu said.

I believe there are non-speading varieties. Worth investigating.

>2-4 feet of topsoil from the entire propert

I was digging 2-3 feet down and pulling out roots that were 50lbs each.  Sometimes chainsawing them into pieces just so I could lift them out. 

 

 

I only put mine in pots

 

I've heard about modest non-spreading varieties... but I've never seen them.   Only in pots kept indoors.

Anything that lives outdoors and grows tall enough for privacy... beware!

I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but I'm not interested in even risking it.  It's that menacing.

>>>>It's cool looking and great for privacy but  you will come to regret it, along with make some enemy neighbors in the process.

Yep.  That stuff can tear up building foundations.  I had a case where we successfully sued a neighboring property owner who planted and failed to control the spread of bamboo, thereby damaging my client's house. 

I have been fly fishing with rods made from it for decades

I had a bamboo bong in 1972.

Had no intention of planting the stuff.  I'm actually fighting invasive weeds.  However, since Bamboo's cheap / free / plentiful I figured it would be a good temporary solution for Deer fence.  Some of my Tomato field is fenced (former Sheep pasture) but the Deer laugh at 4 - foot fence.

There is actually state grant $$ available for Deer fence construction.  They have very 'specific specs' for the material,  length of pole,  type of wire - mesh,  all that.  Eight feet tall w/ ten-foot poles.  They decide whether or not to fund the farmer based on an application with specific points,  each earning a graded score for a total of 100 points.

The more your Deer density,  more points. Vegetables earn more than Grain.  Allowing hunting gets points.  Crop damage increases the score. Military vets get ten points.

So some fields need protection while I wait for the bureaucracy.  Others I can plant a 'throwaway crop' like Pinto Beans to demonstrate crop damage.

If I get a few Beans,  great;  meanwhile they're good Nitrogen - fixers.  The state really wants to see vegetable-producing farms,  so the money allotted is generous enough to cover cost of materials & labor.

 

"I had a bamboo bong in 1972."

 

Me to, would melt paraffin wax and pour it inside, roll it /swish it around and pour it out lining the inside with a coating of wax.

When  it got dirty add boiling water to melt out all the nasty stuff and replace it with fresh wax.

Used a small seashell for a bowl.

 

About that time also got a US bong with the chamber

Cut bamboo stalks  rot pretty fast. not worth the time and effort .   makes a good tomato stake....

Never waxed mine - it only leaked around the bowl.