A well-balanced conversation/explanation of ISIS
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A week ago, I was driving in my car when I came across this conversation on the radio show "Forum."
To me, the guest presented a calm, coherent, well-balanced observation of ISIS, which included the explanation that such violence is, indeed part of the Islamic history; that being said, it should not necessarily be applied to all Muslims.
Here's a link to that show, for those who are interested (inlcudes people phoning in and guest's responses:
https://ww2.kqed.org/forum/2017/04/14/the-atlantics-graeme-wood-on-encou...
Does anyone else have other links for balanced perspectives regarding this subject?
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: RIK
It's also a pert of Christian
It's also a pert of Christian history.
"Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth. I have not come to bring peace, but the sword." Matthew 10:34
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Forum is a great show
Forum is a great show sometimes. Thanks for the link.
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Yes and Yes.
Yes and Yes.
I'm not always into listening to Forum, but this one held my attention and it was good to listen to it again at my desk.
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>> It's also a pert of
>> It's also a pert of Christian history.
>> "Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth. I have not come to bring peace, but the sword." Matthew 10:34
You took that quote completely out of context and presented it as if it was intended to be literal when it's clearly a metaphor. Jesus was anything but a warmonger.
Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn
‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
“Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.
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>>>>>Whoever does not take up
>>>>>Whoever does not take up their cross
Self-militates against Jesus having said this.
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If you all want to hear what
If you all want to hear what Mr. Wood has to say about the theology of ISIS (and how he notes that there are similar inconsistencies in Jewish and Christian writings, using slavery as an example): he starts talking about this at around the 8:00 mark.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fountain Jam
"It's also a pert of
"It's also a pert of Christian history."
YES, HISTORY. See the Christians and Jews stopped Murdering "non-believers" ,oh like 1000 years ago, it's called REFORMATION.
Violence and MURDER are NOT just part of Islam's history, it is VERY MUCH PART OF ISLAM'S NOW. OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THOUSANDS of CURRENT-DAY EXAMPLES. Christians and Jews? eh, not so much.
THAT is the big difference.
Sooooo sick of this bullshit argument.
See, Muslims, the violent ones at least, live like it's the 9th century, they are VERY MUCH barbarians.
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>>>>See, Muslims, the violent
>>>>See, Muslims, the violent ones at least, live like it's the 9th century, they are VERY MUCH barbarians.
how many violent ones are there?
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As long as you have
As long as you have impoverished young men with no future living under autocratic regimes, you will have extremists like ISIS.
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>>YES, HISTORY. See the
>>YES, HISTORY. See the Christians and Jews stopped Murdering "non-believers" ,oh like 1000 years ago, it's called REFORMATION.
Tell that to people when have been killed by anti abortionists, or people hung by the KKK, or, you know, 9 or so million killed by the Nazis.
Oh, and the Spanish Inquisition was much less than 1,000 years ago.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D
Seadoggie,
Seadoggie,
I don't think that you listened to the link above. I consider it to be a non-extreme observation of a Radical Islamist Terrorist State. It will confirm many of your fears that you hold so dear, while giving you more information about the subject.
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I'm not worthy.
I'm not worthy.
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^ Me either.
^
Me either.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D.
>>>Christians and Jews
>>>Christians and Jews stopped Murdering "non-believers" ,oh like 1000 years ago
So this is ancient art?
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Delusions of grandeur....
Delusions of grandeur....
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>>>Does anyone else have
>>>Does anyone else have other links for balanced perspectives regarding this subject?
ISIS=CIA
fact
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Does it count if "fact" isn't
Does it count if "fact" isn't in solid caps?
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A lot of important people in
A lot of important people in this thread
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The early Spanish Missions
The early Spanish Missions along the California coast were pretty violent and enslaved plenty of the local Indians in the 1700's, starting at the top with the newly canonized Junipero Serra.
Not really interested in any effort to understand ISIS, but good luck on your search.