>> Is it not possible she may have been treated unjustly? <<
I'm not really into disproving double negatives. All I'm saying is that she got bumped, they offered her a hotel and a ride, and she declined. The son should be more upset with her than UAL.
“Basically, she was left at the gate for 12 hours. They offered her a hotel that was miles away,” Williams said. “She had to get there on her own steam. There’s no way my mom could have pushed a wheelchair at her age, so she sat there.”
...
United Airlines responded Tuesday, saying “this never should have happened” and that the airline had apologized to the customer’s family.
So, what part of the story are you considering facts, and what parts are you discounting?
My assessment is based, without prejudice, on the story you linked.<<<
Was suggesting there is likely more to the story than United's claim that you cited first off ... in particular, why did United allow this happen in the first place?
If an airline overbooks a flight, is it reasonable to say they have a duty to insure those who have physical or health issues ought to be looked out for first and foremost?
>> If an airline overbooks a flight, is it reasonable to say they have a duty to insure those who have physical or health issues ought to be looked out for first and foremost?
Duty? I'd guess it's in the fine print.
Son drops her off at the airport on a flight with a connection in Newark. If she's that dependent, maybe they should have booked a direct flight or accompanied her to London. It's an airline not a nirsing home.
Son drops her off at the airport on a flight with a connection in Newark. If she's that dependent, maybe they should have booked a direct flight or accompanied her to London. It's an airline not a nirsing home.<<<
Not sure what the fine print says, just expressing an opinion.
Is a society not judged by how it treats it's "weakest links"?
>> Is a society not judged by how it treats it's "weakest links"?
Indeed. How many unaccompanied minors and wheelchair bound passengers made it to their destinations yesterday, and the day before that...
I'm not making excuses for UAL, just think that the son relied a bit too much on an airline that cares about his Mother significantly less than him.
"“They assist people in wheelchairs and get someone to wheel them through and basically take responsibility for that person until they arrive at their destination,” Williams told the station.
I'm not making excuses for UAL, just think that the son relied a bit too much on an airline that cars about his Mother significantly less than him.<<<
I won't disagree with you re: son possibly being a little too reliant upon airline, but I wouldn't be surprised if they assured him along the lines of what you stated re: "successful stories".
Yes, "basically" could mean just about anything ... could very well be a case of the "big print giveth and the small print taketh". I'm sure attorneys for the airlines contend with issues of guardianship all the time ... especially in light of how they might "pitch" said services on the front end.
We sent the kiddo as an unaccompanied minor on a few flights, but made sure they were direct/non-stop, and had someone catching her on the other end after personally sending her down the jetway.
I yearn for the days when you had to dress up to take a flight. Things were so much more civil when the "weakest links" had to take a slow boat in steerage tp go across the pond.
I yearn for the days when you had to dress up to take a flight. Things were so much more civil when the "weakest links" had to take a slow boat in steerage tp go across the pond. <<<
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on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 10:44 am
per UAL: "While we offered
per UAL: "While we offered our customer a hotel and to take her there, she declined our offer of assistance."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 10:52 am
Are you suggesting this was a
Are you suggesting this was a "publicity stunt"?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 10:57 am
Are you suggesting OG was
Are you suggesting OG was treated unjustly?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 11:05 am
Perhaps.
Is it not possible she may have been treated unjustly?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 11:15 am
Is it possible she was a
Is it possible she was swinging her dreads around?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 11:16 am
Which is more likely?
Which is more likely?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 11:18 am
>> Is it not possible she may
>> Is it not possible she may have been treated unjustly? <<
I'm not really into disproving double negatives. All I'm saying is that she got bumped, they offered her a hotel and a ride, and she declined. The son should be more upset with her than UAL.
Thinks 19.5 has a boner for:
1) Shappy
2) UAL
3) Awkward food discussions
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 11:22 am
I'm not really into
I'm not really into disproving double negatives<<<<
And shouldn't there be a period after the number and before the parenthetical character?
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on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 11:23 am
All I'm saying is that she
All I'm saying is that she got bumped, they offered her a hotel and a ride, and she declined. The son should be more upset with her than UAL.<<<
Without knowing all the facts, you're willing to turn son against mother?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 11:25 am
So, what part of the story
So, what part of the story are you considering facts, and what parts are you discounting?
My assessment is based, without prejudice, on the story you linked.
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on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 11:26 am
http://www.foxnews.com/travel
http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/09/14/united-airlines-left-mom-in-whe...
“Basically, she was left at the gate for 12 hours. They offered her a hotel that was miles away,” Williams said. “She had to get there on her own steam. There’s no way my mom could have pushed a wheelchair at her age, so she sat there.”
...
United Airlines responded Tuesday, saying “this never should have happened” and that the airline had apologized to the customer’s family.
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on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 11:29 am
nedb = snopes
nedb = snopes
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 11:34 am
So, what part of the story
So, what part of the story are you considering facts, and what parts are you discounting?
My assessment is based, without prejudice, on the story you linked.<<<
Was suggesting there is likely more to the story than United's claim that you cited first off ... in particular, why did United allow this happen in the first place?
If an airline overbooks a flight, is it reasonable to say they have a duty to insure those who have physical or health issues ought to be looked out for first and foremost?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 11:36 am
>> If an airline overbooks a
>> If an airline overbooks a flight, is it reasonable to say they have a duty to insure those who have physical or health issues ought to be looked out for first and foremost?
Duty? I'd guess it's in the fine print.
Son drops her off at the airport on a flight with a connection in Newark. If she's that dependent, maybe they should have booked a direct flight or accompanied her to London. It's an airline not a nirsing home.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 11:40 am
Duty? I'd guess it's in the
Duty? I'd guess it's in the fine print.
Son drops her off at the airport on a flight with a connection in Newark. If she's that dependent, maybe they should have booked a direct flight or accompanied her to London. It's an airline not a nirsing home.<<<
Not sure what the fine print says, just expressing an opinion.
Is a society not judged by how it treats it's "weakest links"?
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on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 11:41 am
But it's "OK" for the
But it's "OK" for the airlines to make a continual practice of overbooking to insure their margins are covered?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 11:44 am
>> Is a society not judged by
>> Is a society not judged by how it treats it's "weakest links"?
Indeed. How many unaccompanied minors and wheelchair bound passengers made it to their destinations yesterday, and the day before that...
I'm not making excuses for UAL, just think that the son relied a bit too much on an airline that cares about his Mother significantly less than him.
"“They assist people in wheelchairs and get someone to wheel them through and basically take responsibility for that person until they arrive at their destination,” Williams told the station.
What does "basically take responsibility" mean?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 11:51 am
I'm not making excuses for
I'm not making excuses for UAL, just think that the son relied a bit too much on an airline that cars about his Mother significantly less than him.<<<
I won't disagree with you re: son possibly being a little too reliant upon airline, but I wouldn't be surprised if they assured him along the lines of what you stated re: "successful stories".
Yes, "basically" could mean just about anything ... could very well be a case of the "big print giveth and the small print taketh". I'm sure attorneys for the airlines contend with issues of guardianship all the time ... especially in light of how they might "pitch" said services on the front end.
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on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 11:58 am
I love that Nedb is a
I love that Nedb is a controversial person on Viva.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 12:02 pm
I know if I upset Turtle I'm
I know if I upset Turtle I'm doing something right. He's my barometer.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 12:05 pm
We sent the kiddo as an
We sent the kiddo as an unaccompanied minor on a few flights, but made sure they were direct/non-stop, and had someone catching her on the other end after personally sending her down the jetway.
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on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 12:21 pm
Wow this got no action on PT
Wow this got no action on PT even after OP bumped it smh
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on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 12:25 pm
I yearn for the days when you
I yearn for the days when you had to dress up to take a flight. Things were so much more civil when the "weakest links" had to take a slow boat in steerage tp go across the pond.
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on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 12:31 pm
Wow this got no action on PT
Wow this got no action on PT even after OP bumped it smh<<<
scanner dan'd
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 12:37 pm
oh nedley, you do not upset
oh nedley, you do not upset me.
just the biggest devil's advocate, naysayer around. which is fine. you are good at it.
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on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 12:38 pm
I yearn for the days when you
I yearn for the days when you had to dress up to take a flight. Things were so much more civil when the "weakest links" had to take a slow boat in steerage tp go across the pond. <<<
bygone going to bygone
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 12:38 pm
You sound like my wife, lil'
You sound like my wife, lil' buddy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Thursday, September 14, 2017 – 01:00 pm
oh do i?
oh do i?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 – 11:47 am
Hahaha nice jacket Jerry!
Hahaha nice jacket Jerry!