TC and Mark Karan tonight

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TC and Mark Karan are playing GD music at a little theater tonight on my side of town, so just got tickets to see them.   

Anyone know who else is in this band?

Slick Aguilar at one point if it's the live dead 69 thing 

That’d be enough to get my money. No idea on the other members.

 

To what degree do you think Constanten’s GD participation has been accepted over the years with the phanbase?  I mean he has album credits, and played at Woodstock. 

Is TC considered, like, a full-patch, full-wings Grateful Dead piano member? Or more of an associate or hangaround?

Do you put his relationship to the band in the same drawer with Hornsby or say, David Nelson?

Or is he more deserving of a Bob Bralove / Big Steve rating?

Or is he one of, and always.... ?

I’m Just curious where the zone stands on this most important distinction.

For what its worth, he was inducted into the RRHOF, but from what I hear, was always a bit of an outsider.  He didn't like to party and the GD was always first and foremost a party band.

Next to 75-78, 68-70 is my favorite Dead era and think TC had a lot to do with that.  He brought a new level of musical sophistication to the band (especially on keys) that the primal GD of 65-67 just didn't have, but at a time when Pigpen was still at the top of his game. 

How do you consider him?

I'd say he's full wings.

On their East cost run in a week or two, Pete Lavazolli (Crazy Fingers, JGB, Mars Hotel, etc.) is on drums. I know they are playing Harrisburg, PA. And heading to Europe with a slightly different line-up.

re TC - Garcia supposedly called him an underachiever at his "amiable" firing (and the Scientology may have had a little to do with his outsider status), but he claims he couldn't hear himself play. Weir said he just wasn't a rock-an- roller.

As I recall reading, he was around the burgeoning GD scene rather early on (before he joined the Air Force, left and and started playing with the GD regularly).

[I think he deserves gold star status just because he was part of the mix during a seminal part of GD history. And he lived to tell about it.)

Awesome. Sounds like some hot fun in the ol town tonight. Enjoy

he's a big baseball fan, too. Threw out first pitch at White Sox Dead night

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"Is TC considered, like, a full-patch, full-wings Grateful Dead piano member?"

IMO absolutely a full fledged member.  His contributions in 1969 were essential to that sound.

I think most people see him as a band aid type like Hornsby in hind sight,  but I am with Ken on that he influenced the sound in a big way in such a short time

Think of all the great songs that more or less went away soon after he left the band.

I thought he hated the crazy chaotic hedonistic scene back stage.

So Stu Allen and Robin Sylvester from Ratdog are in the lineup too tonight.  Theater is three-quarters empty.

Apparently a live stream here -- (?)

http://mixlr.com/mrdc/

Good show,  A little spendy ($34 plus fees) but a fun GD dance party nonetheless.  Place filled up more after the show got going, but still plenty of room to dance.  Didn't even know they were in town until a few hours before the show, so kind of a surprise too.  

TC shined on some of his era songs like Dark Star and St. Stephen, and did a nice instrumental Mountains of the Moon, but Mark and Stu were otherwise in the driver's seat.  They mostly stuck with 69 era stuff, but threw in a Wharf Rat and He's Gone.   TC held back on those numbers and hardly touched his keyboard on Wharf Rat, which was kind of shame because it really is a good piano song (best one I ever saw was with Bruce's band at the Gorge in 96),  Anyway, they did the very best That's It for the Other One I have seen in a long, long time (maybe the best I have seen).  Face melting. 

Funny thing about Stu Allen.  He has a great Jerry voice on a lot of the songs, but when it came to Dark Star, it was a distinct Phil voice.   Maybe he has been hanging around TXR too long.

Glad you got a good one, Ken! I tried to listen to that stream but it sounded like it was broadcast from a cell phone in a shirt pocket.

It just occurred to me that maybe TC doesn’t really know wharf rat or he’s gone? Just saying - why would he ever have the desire to seek out those songs and learn them many years after leaving the band? Whenever I’ve seen his name on a bill (other than with Terrapin Flyer), it usually references the music/era when he was a member. And agree wharf rat does really lend to piano sounds.

>>>>sounded like it was broadcast from a cell phone in a shirt pocket.

That was another thing.  It took them a while to get the sound dialed in.   By the second set, it was fine, but they were having some issues at the beginning of the show,

Also, didn't know that Cold Rain and Snow is an easy segue into "Two Tickets to Paradise."  They had fun teasing the hell out of that.

>>>>>maybe TC doesn’t really know wharf rat or he’s gone?

 

He may not, but any decent player should be able to suss out almost any song after a few bars and be able to add to that song, even if he or she doesn't know the song. I can do it, and I'm just a hack and not a "real" musician.

I think this is recent kimock with TC..doing Infrared Roses 2-14-20 in LA set 1 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JKlk_xG8E4Q Set 2b https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HC60BY2v1zg