That stupid fucking wall shit has already been a major distraction for both parties. Let him put the damn thing up and we can move on to some more serious issues. At least he had the good sense not force another government shut down over this crap.
>>>>I wonder if war with Iran is next.
I wouldn't be surprised. The US just kicked off a big pow wow in Poland with other countries to discuss the Iran situation. I suspect we will see more covert and overt action on Iran in the next couple months.
That's been going on since the Obama administration, but its picking up steam lately. Just yesterday, a busload of Iranian Republican Guard got blown up. And Israel continues to bomb Iranian troops in Syria on an almost daily basis.
I just have to think that there is SOME limit on executive power in this regard. Whether it is the "abuse of discretion" standard, or an implied fiduciary duty, something. What's to stop a President from calling the leak in the roof of his personal home an emergency? What if I'm president and I think that getting the TB Rays a new stadium is an emergency?
Congress can vote to repeal a presidential emergency declaration, but then the president can veto the repeal. Then Congress would have to have a 2/3 majority to override the veto.
Yes there will be a vote, and everyone will be watching the 22 Republican Senators who are running in 2020. Do they vote for a make believe national emergency, and basically vote away the Senates power to check future democratic presidents. Or do they vote against the make believe national emergency and get voted out for failing the cult purity test. Lay down with Trump and wake up with a disease. Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of people.
Wild speculation, but couldn't help but wonder about the alleged USAF defector and whether she was being setup? Nothing like a turncoat to rile up nationalistic sentiment.
The program was started by Bush II, but Obama expanded the program significantly, partially as a way to keep Israel from bombing the Iranian facilities. I am sure Trump, Bolton, and Pompeo have been in cahoots with Netanyahu to ramp up the campaign even more. Now whether the defector is a double or triple agent, who knows.
WARSAW — The Trump White House has accelerated a secret American program to sabotage Iran’s missiles and rockets, according to current and former administration officials, who described it as part of an expanding campaign by the United States to undercut Tehran’s military and isolate its economy.
Officials said it was impossible to measure precisely the success of the classified program, which has never been publicly acknowledged. But in the past month alone, two Iranian attempts to launch satellites have failed within minutes.
Those two rocket failures — one that Iran announced on Jan. 15 and the other, an unacknowledged attempt, on Feb. 5 — were part of a pattern over the past 11 years. In that time, 67 percent of Iranian orbital launches have failed, an astonishingly high number compared to a 5 percent failure rate worldwide for similar space launches.
Not speculation at all. Its widely know that the US and Israel have been engaged in an active campaign of sabotage against Iran's nuclear program<<<<
Sorry, it didn't come out the right way ... I was admitting that it's likely just wild speculation on my part that the USAF defector wasn't actually a defector, but had been setup.
All this wall bullshit is just a distraction from the Mueller investigation closing in, the McCabe interview out today. Trump says look at the shiny object over here and the press obliges.
If I could post a photo, I would put up a pic of trump with his hair blowing in the wind and the nazi from the strain when he was putting on his human face and hair.
Will the likes of Murkowski & Collins go along with the blood on their hands of hundreds of thousand, if not millions of deaths? In all likelihood, simply to cover their own asses (although wouldn't be surprised if they're receiving threats of violence re: their families) & that of a glorified conman?
IMO this might be one of the most significant fuck ups of his presidency.
president harry s truman declared the first international "police action" against korea in the 50's, which began our involvement in the korean war. to declare war, a president needs approval from congress. but since this was a "police action", he didnt need approval from congress.
this set a serious precedent. the USA has not officially declared war since our first "police action" in korea. all of our wars since then have been "police actions" that do not require approval from congress.
is trump about to set that same precedent for the budget?
>>>>all of our wars since then have been "police actions" that do not require approval from congress.
After the Vietnam War, Congress passed the War Powers Act which requires the President to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing US forces to combat situations. That triggers a 60 day period for Congress to authorize continued use of military force:
As noted in the article, the requirement was essentially ignored by Clinton in Kosovo in 1999, Obama in Libya in 2011, and by both Obama and Trump in Syria more recently without much consequence. Congress did authorize the use of force after the 9/11 attacks, which Bush II and subsequent presidents have used liberally to engage in the loosey-goosey "War on Terror" in various parts of the world.
I was trapped in Dr waiting room while trump droned on about the wall, drug smuggling, woman smuggling, n korea, china. My blood pressure was peaking, he is nutz. Sniffling like he's on coke bender and couldn't answer a question if have two vowels and hint. Winning we are!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 03:50 pm
That stupid fucking wall shit
That stupid fucking wall shit has already been a major distraction for both parties. Let him put the damn thing up and we can move on to some more serious issues. At least he had the good sense not force another government shut down over this crap.
>>>>I wonder if war with Iran is next.
I wouldn't be surprised. The US just kicked off a big pow wow in Poland with other countries to discuss the Iran situation. I suspect we will see more covert and overt action on Iran in the next couple months.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/02/iran-denounces-led-middle-east-co...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 03:51 pm
He's being investigated. He
He's being investigated. He might lose the 2020 election.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 03:52 pm
Pelosi warns the GOP about
Pelosi warns the GOP about opening Pandora's box*:
https://twitter.com/KellyO/status/1096148085238099969
*are twitter time stamps West Coast time?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 03:53 pm
>I wonder if war with Iran is
>I wonder if war with Iran is next.
covert war is already underway
Iran contra redux, only this time it’s Venezuela and Iran
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 03:59 pm
>>>>covert war is already
>>>>covert war is already underway
That's been going on since the Obama administration, but its picking up steam lately. Just yesterday, a busload of Iranian Republican Guard got blown up. And Israel continues to bomb Iranian troops in Syria on an almost daily basis.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alias botb
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 04:01 pm
I just have to think that
I just have to think that there is SOME limit on executive power in this regard. Whether it is the "abuse of discretion" standard, or an implied fiduciary duty, something. What's to stop a President from calling the leak in the roof of his personal home an emergency? What if I'm president and I think that getting the TB Rays a new stadium is an emergency?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 04:08 pm
The apparatus abides
The apparatus abides
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 04:15 pm
>>>>just have to think that
>>>>just have to think that there is SOME limit on executive power in this regard.
Here is a recent in depth Atlantic article on the presidential emergency powers:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/01/presidential-emerge...
Congress can vote to repeal a presidential emergency declaration, but then the president can veto the repeal. Then Congress would have to have a 2/3 majority to override the veto.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: More Barn Elvis Bruce Young
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 04:16 pm
What if I'm president and I
What if I'm president and I think that getting the TB Rays a new stadium is an emergency?
It is before they move to Montreal, Charlotte or Portland
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sun so hot, clouds so low Trailhead
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 04:16 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 05:03 pm
Yes there will be a vote, and
Yes there will be a vote, and everyone will be watching the 22 Republican Senators who are running in 2020. Do they vote for a make believe national emergency, and basically vote away the Senates power to check future democratic presidents. Or do they vote against the make believe national emergency and get voted out for failing the cult purity test. Lay down with Trump and wake up with a disease. Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of people.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GoneGoodbye RocknRye
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 05:11 pm
Does this mean The Golden
Does this mean The Golden Bloated Liar In Chief is going to throw rolls of paper towels at refugees crossing from the south?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 05:21 pm
>>>>covert war is already
>>>>covert war is already underway
Wild speculation, but couldn't help but wonder about the alleged USAF defector and whether she was being setup? Nothing like a turncoat to rile up nationalistic sentiment.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/14/monica-witt-from-us-inte...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 05:29 pm
>>>Wild speculation
>>>Wild speculation
Not speculation at all. Its widely know that the US and Israel have been engaged in an active campaign of sabotage against Iran's nuclear program:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Olympic_Games
The program was started by Bush II, but Obama expanded the program significantly, partially as a way to keep Israel from bombing the Iranian facilities. I am sure Trump, Bolton, and Pompeo have been in cahoots with Netanyahu to ramp up the campaign even more. Now whether the defector is a double or triple agent, who knows.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 05:34 pm
to Ken's point above (ps, the
to Ken's point above (ps, the Times should not have published this, in my opinion):
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/13/us/politics/iran-missile-launch-failures.html
WARSAW — The Trump White House has accelerated a secret American program to sabotage Iran’s missiles and rockets, according to current and former administration officials, who described it as part of an expanding campaign by the United States to undercut Tehran’s military and isolate its economy.
Officials said it was impossible to measure precisely the success of the classified program, which has never been publicly acknowledged. But in the past month alone, two Iranian attempts to launch satellites have failed within minutes.
Those two rocket failures — one that Iran announced on Jan. 15 and the other, an unacknowledged attempt, on Feb. 5 — were part of a pattern over the past 11 years. In that time, 67 percent of Iranian orbital launches have failed, an astonishingly high number compared to a 5 percent failure rate worldwide for similar space launches.
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 05:35 pm
>>>Wild speculation
>>>Wild speculation
Not speculation at all. Its widely know that the US and Israel have been engaged in an active campaign of sabotage against Iran's nuclear program<<<<
Sorry, it didn't come out the right way ... I was admitting that it's likely just wild speculation on my part that the USAF defector wasn't actually a defector, but had been setup.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 05:51 pm
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Denny dbmu1977
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 06:00 pm
All this wall bullshit is
All this wall bullshit is just a distraction from the Mueller investigation closing in, the McCabe interview out today. Trump says look at the shiny object over here and the press obliges.
If I could post a photo, I would put up a pic of trump with his hair blowing in the wind and the nazi from the strain when he was putting on his human face and hair.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 06:16 pm
Let him put the damn thing up
Let him put the damn thing up and we can move on to some more serious issues.
Um, no.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Thursday, February 14, 2019 – 06:47 pm
He we go again
Here we go again.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/was-a-u-s-cargo-jet-smuggling-arms-t...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Friday, February 15, 2019 – 07:44 am
Will the likes of Murkowski &
Will the likes of Murkowski & Collins go along with the blood on their hands of hundreds of thousand, if not millions of deaths? In all likelihood, simply to cover their own asses (although wouldn't be surprised if they're receiving threats of violence re: their families) & that of a glorified conman?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/pence-accuses-iran-pursuing-new-holoc...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: JD SurfsUp
on Friday, February 15, 2019 – 08:54 am
Sad times indeed
Sad times indeed
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Rasputin O'Leary Rasmataz
on Friday, February 15, 2019 – 09:24 am
State of shock - It's only
State of shock - It's only Rock and Roll
https://youtu.be/mg2rhu_HHR0
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Blue Rose Task Force Rock And Roll Goddess
on Friday, February 15, 2019 – 01:03 pm
Trump Declares National
Trump Declares National Emergency.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHDnQO7B-PI&list=PLe4d934mXy2b0WTW3pcjWtwgIrQIJmQrO&index=6&t=0s
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Friday, February 15, 2019 – 01:09 pm
State Of Emergency is Steel
State Of Emergency is Steel Pulse's weakest album.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dr. Benway daylight
on Friday, February 15, 2019 – 01:15 pm
IMO this might be one of the
IMO this might be one of the most significant fuck ups of his presidency.
president harry s truman declared the first international "police action" against korea in the 50's, which began our involvement in the korean war. to declare war, a president needs approval from congress. but since this was a "police action", he didnt need approval from congress.
this set a serious precedent. the USA has not officially declared war since our first "police action" in korea. all of our wars since then have been "police actions" that do not require approval from congress.
is trump about to set that same precedent for the budget?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Friday, February 15, 2019 – 01:21 pm
From what I perceive the wall
From what I perceive the wall building process will be held up in the courts forever from the confiscation of land from the border land owners.
Legislation will not matter.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Friday, February 15, 2019 – 02:01 pm
>>>>all of our wars since
>>>>all of our wars since then have been "police actions" that do not require approval from congress.
After the Vietnam War, Congress passed the War Powers Act which requires the President to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing US forces to combat situations. That triggers a 60 day period for Congress to authorize continued use of military force:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution
As noted in the article, the requirement was essentially ignored by Clinton in Kosovo in 1999, Obama in Libya in 2011, and by both Obama and Trump in Syria more recently without much consequence. Congress did authorize the use of force after the 9/11 attacks, which Bush II and subsequent presidents have used liberally to engage in the loosey-goosey "War on Terror" in various parts of the world.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fly Fly
on Friday, February 15, 2019 – 02:07 pm
You go Drump, That'll show
You go Drump, That'll show them your skills. What a deal master!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Denny dbmu1977
on Friday, February 15, 2019 – 03:01 pm
I was trapped in Dr waiting
I was trapped in Dr waiting room while trump droned on about the wall, drug smuggling, woman smuggling, n korea, china. My blood pressure was peaking, he is nutz. Sniffling like he's on coke bender and couldn't answer a question if have two vowels and hint. Winning we are!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Friday, February 15, 2019 – 03:41 pm
Everyone knows that a wall
Everyone knows that a wall won't save us.
What we need are more military grade weapons in the hands of our youth. Duh!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GravyTrain Gravytrain
on Friday, February 15, 2019 – 04:46 pm
"The only National Emergency
"The only National Emergency is that our President is an idiot."
--Ann Coulter
...he's toast.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lord Kalvert Lloyd_Klondike
on Friday, February 15, 2019 – 04:58 pm
When's he going to take his
When's he going to take his ball and go home ....?
Moron
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Friday, February 15, 2019 – 04:59 pm
https://twitter.com
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1096471357896835072
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Saturday, February 16, 2019 – 10:40 am
What elements of
What elements of "Constitutional originalism" does this "national emergency" embrace?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Saturday, February 16, 2019 – 05:43 pm
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _________ Plf9905
on Saturday, February 16, 2019 – 05:58 pm
Trump has ZERO Credibility
Trump has ZERO Credibility And IS A PIECE OF SHIT !
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dr. Benway daylight
on Saturday, February 16, 2019 – 08:04 pm
Ken D, that was good info thx
Ken D, that was good info thx for posting
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Saturday, February 16, 2019 – 09:07 pm
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Friday, January 3, 2020 – 09:41 am
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lassen No Treble No Trouble
on Friday, January 3, 2020 – 10:07 am
Thank god i don't hookah
Thank god i don't hookah