Samantha Bee going to be fired soon

I hadn't heard of her until today.

Very interesting...

Want to bet?

She'll get by on an insincere apology.

I enjoyed her work on the Daily Show. Haven't ever watched her new show, so meh.

Big picture, I think the screeching nutjobs on the Right/Left are just waiting to be offended by something (and there's plenty of real shit to be offended by; see Rosanne Barr), but really, people need to sack the fuck up. If you don't like what somebody has to say, keep scrolling. Why is this so hard?

A US President calling for the firing of someone for what they say seems like an infringement of the 1st Amendment.

I'd be surprised if they do.

...

wtf

dblpst

Being a liberal provides more protective armor than does an Iron Man suit.

>> A US President calling for the firing of someone for what they say seems like an infringement of the 1st Amendment.

Where did he call for Samantha Bee to be fired? I only saw him asking for an apology.

Sorry, but white man (Bill Maher) attacking white man in power (Donald Trump) or white woman (Samantha Bee) attacking white woman in power (Ivanka Trump) often gets a pass in our society.

I'm not condoning it, but, IMHO, "That's just the way it is..."

Now, if someone threatens to take money from the business (like organized boycott or governmental intervention), the business leader needs to decide how to proceed.

>>>She'll get by on an insincere apology

apologze for what? She is just speaking her mind like our President does

Whats with all of the snowflakes being hurt by words? Bunch of right-wing pussies. 

Bunch of right-wing pussies. 

And btw, I think “feckless cunt” is a brilliant description of Sarah Sanders, who is the easily the biggest propaganda pusher and state-sponsored LIAR since Baghdad Bob. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/samantha-bee-apologizes-for-‘inappropriate-and-inexcusable’-ivanka-trump-insult/ar-AAy4BMZ?li=BBnb7Kz

Apology

Sorry - can't make a stable link

is michelle obama holding her breath for an apology for being called an ape?

>>>Whats with all of the snowflakes being hurt by words? Bunch of right-wing pussies. 

Seriously.

Apology

Considering Trump has never once apologized for any of the vile, disgusting, hateful shit he's said,

why the hell should she??

I don't think the right wing is shutting down free speech on college campuses like the left wing does on a regular basis. talk about being hurt/scared of words.

When the people in charge of our country behave like “feckless cunts”, it is our obligation to call them out on it. 

Word of the day: 

feck·less​

adjective

lacking initiative or strength of character; irresponsible.

"a feckless mama's boy"

synonyms:useless, worthless, incompetent, inept, good-for-nothing, ne'er-do-well

The old no such thing as bad press may apply, show was already treading water.

The “Full Frontal” host can’t really afford to lose any more advertisers, because based on the below TV ratings, TBS has already absorbed a blow in ad revenue generated by her weekly time slot.

Year-to-date, Bee’s Nielsen ratings are down 34 percent among adults ages 18-49, which is the demographic most-coveted by primetime advertisers. Isolating just millennials, a label assigned to adults ages 18-34, she’s shed a whopping 47 percent — or nearly half — of her 2017 viewership

>>>>I don't think the right wing is shutting down free speech on college campuses like the left wing does on a regular basis. talk about being hurt/scared of words.

yup you’re right there are pussies on both sides for sure

are you a Milo fan? Is that the type of speech being shut down that you are concerned about? Seems like everyone has a pretty big fucking soap box these days. 

>>>>I think the screeching nutjobs on the Right/Left are just waiting to be offended by something (and there's plenty of real shit to be offended by; see Rosanne Barr), but really, people need to sack the fuck up

This.  Sticks and stones.  I wish I could put a filter on my news input that blocks any "news" story about name calling, insults, etc.

On squelching the First Amendment, perhaps we need to put things in historical context:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_Act

>>>>>I don't think the right wing is shutting down free speech on college campuses like the left wing does on a regular basis. talk about being hurt/scared of words.

Who is in charge of this "left wing"?

If you're talking about University and/or City leaders who literally think that sticks and stones may break your bones, I suppose that you have a point.

>When the people in charge of our country behave like “feckless cunts”, it is our obligation to call them out on it. 

Agreed, and I wish Sam hadn’t apologized

It is NOT NORMAL for our leaders - and their family members given government jobs  - to call out people who are critical of their actions which negatively  impact our nation and quality of life.

SCREW THE ENTIRE TRUMP FAMILY ! THEY COMPLETELY __________SUCK.

Great analysis

https://www.thecut.com/2018/05/samantha-bee-ivanka-trump-full-frontal.html

>>>"I don't think the right wing is shutting down free speech on college campuses like the left wing does on a regular basis. talk about being hurt/scared of words."

Free speech is alive and well. Post a link to the Gov't shutting down a speaking event because of the speaker. 

What HAS happened is vast amounts of people exercised their free speech rights to shout down an asshole or NAZI.

I don't understand how you don't get this. Freedom of Speech is protection from the Gov't.

If I shout over you I am not impinging on your freedom of speech. You are free to yell as loud as you want. I have every right in the world to voice my opinion in any way I want. Just like they have every right to go home and cry about it on the internet and on the news. Snowflakes just can't handle freedom.

"i may not agree with what you say but i'll defend to the death your right to say it" is so passe now. i'll scream louder than you & if that doesn't work i'll call it hate speech & bring thousands of people to drown you out. and these fucking antifa bozos will create so much chaos but they're just being peaceful protestors. didn't know shapiro was a fucking nazi

I bet Samantha Bee gets a promotion.

Thom...tell That to Al Franken... 

"That was the wrong word for Samantha Bee to have used . But mostly because ( to paraphrase the French ) Ivanka has neither the warmth nor the depth." - Minnie Driver

She definitely is a feckless cunt. So yay for truth.

<<<Being a liberal provides more protective armor than does an Iron Man

if we are measuring consequences of ones actions, then being a democrat is second only to having the last name of Trump when considering the strength of armor in these situations.

Gidget and The Flying Nun get it.

Now follow the shiny object....

SNL should do a skit this week... Ivanka pondering the thought that she might actually be a cunt....  Only to wake up from the nightmare and immediately call one of her sweat shops to make sure production is up to snuff.  

Average hourly earnings increased 2.7 percent from a year earlier, more than projected, while the jobless rate fell to 3.8 percent from 3.9 percent to match April 2000 as the lowest since 1969.

Yeah we know Ender...

Drumph telegraphed it before it came out.

"Cherry Picked Economics"

Now let's get back to Cunts, everybody's talking about it.

Humans love Samantha Bee she's not goin anywhere,,,,Deal with it

Now, Roseanne, Ivanka and Sarah Sanders are feckless cunts! Fuck them

What everyone is missing is that even though cunt IS an offensive word, calling someone a cunt because they did something cunty (parading her child around at ground zero where her dad is taking babies away) is an entirely different thing from calling a black person an ape, a racist trope that has been around since the first african was brought here in chains and has remained a particularly vile racist insult precisely because it is an insult to the race generally  and not about what someone did.  I'm not condoning the use of racist language to describe what someone did, but the "ape" thing is just entirely about "she's black so her parents are apes".  Cunt is just bitch plus 2.  I can't believe that I haven't heard anyone articulating this. So obvious.  And I hate "cunt" except in the context of "cunt punt", which is an awesome term.

>>>>>>Where did he call for Samantha Bee to be fired?

Twitter.  I guess to be fair he didn’t call for her firing.  He asked why she hasn’t been fired yet.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1002508937445478402?s=21

How come you never hear of someone having a lot of feck?

Well there is this.

Forget Samantha Bee—Donald Trump Has Called Women ‘C*nt’ for 30 Years

The White House’s war on the ‘Full Frontal’ host risks renewing public attention on Trump’s own alleged use of the word ‘c*nt’ to describe at least three women since the 1980s.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/forget-samantha-beedonald-trump-has-called...

It would be awesome if an anonymous source using the name Deep Cunt brought down this shitshow of an administration.

>"she's black so her parents are apes".  Cunt is just bitch plus 2.  I can't believe that I haven't heard anyone articulating this. <

i did.

Would have been a lot easier to go PG-13 and say spoiled, plastic surgery addicted debutant whose experience selling handbags and blouses more than qualifies her to work in the Oval Office...

Don't think she'll be fired if her show handlers decided not to bleep it out.  The show was taped and not live, so could be her or someone else that made the decision to air it.

After dating a Brit for 5 years, I'm desensitized by the word 'cunt' its just buddy term, so no offense here.

These next four years are going to require a broad coalition of straight-up decency. And we’re going to need to be able to talk to people who would normally feel alienated by my show. I’m trying to think how those conversations can take place. I’m starting to imagine America as a giant Thanksgiving table where we may need some ground rules before we break bread. Maybe some things will have to be off limits if we’re going to find the humanity on the other side of the aisle — some contact points.

Samantha Bee, January 2017

>> because it is an insult to the race generally  and not about what someone did.

Bee's insult was all about Ivanka's femineity. She suggested she whore herself out to win her father's favor. Not sure how you don't see than as demeaning.

I watched the show yesterday, had it set to record. I’ll go back and listen again, but I’m pretty sure the c word WAS bleeped out. 

And nothing indecent about calling out Herr Trump’s daughter for her complicity on ripping children away from their parents.

She showed a lot of feck.

Ender - Cunt vs. Ape balls?

T.O.D.,

I thought Roseanne should have got fired. Not sure why'd you expect me to defend her racist BS.

I didn't think Roseanne should have been fired.  They hired her knowing her twitter persona in order to portray that persona to attract viewers who identify with that persona.  How did they not know this would happen?  I think she's a racist piece of shit, but at least 33% of America likes racist pieces of shit and that's what the whole show was based on.  I mean, I can say fuck ABC for giving a voice to a racist piece of shit, but its not her fault she got fired for being the person they hired her to be.

>>>>>Bee's insult was all about Ivanka's femineity. She suggested she whore herself out to win her father's favor. Not sure how you don't see than as demeaning.

I think that Samantha was noting the irony that Ivanka, as a mother, could allow her father's administration to implement a practice of separating children from their parents.  The "whore" joke was more demeaning to Donald Trump, who allegedly has had affairs with people whom he reportedly has said reminds him of his daughter.  IMHO

Its not her fault her dad is a creeper.

Oh, so if the word was bleeped out, then I am in the sack- it- up camp.

>>She suggested she whore herself out to win her father's favor. Not sure how you don't see than as demeaning.<<

Because of what Trump has said in the past, I thought it was more a shot at him.

Trump... "If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diMp241gAcw

The funny thing is that the bleeping would be a TBS thing, either way, not Sam Bee's department, but yes, nothing to see here.  But I enjoy the hilarity of the world suddenly being very puritanical when a woman who is not Roseanne Barr has a foul mouth.  

Nice catch TOD

Sam Bee called Ivanka the worst word, but it was bleeped out on the TBS broadcast, so now you can't even say something that is bleeped out and this word is one of the trumpsters favorite words. 

The issue that she was referring to is the separation of children from their parents at the border. This issue is not addressed by the white house and sessions says that parents shouldn't smuggle their kids into the country. What does that even mean. They are  kids, they go were their parents go. Fight all you want about the bad word she used, the issue she raised is much worse tha Ivanka being called a feckless c---t. If you think this nation is doing the right thing by taking away kids from their parents, then I just have no clue what we even stand for. Even families that are going thru the proper channels to seek asylum are being separated from their moms and dads. 

Let's play the "what if?" game....

Samantha Bee’s Defenders Play Calvinball with the Language

"Imagine, if you will, that, say, Sean Hannity or Ann Coulter had called, say, Chelsea Clinton a “c***.” In what universe would the word have been dismissed as merely a “word choice,” divorced from any associated “worldview”? In such a circumstance, we’d be told that the word reflected the speaker’s sexism and misogyny; that it indicted his entire political ideology; that it highlighted the depravity of his audience; and so forth. The New York Times would link the comment to “rape culture” and “toxic masculinity.” College professors would explain that it came deep from the wells of American inequality. MSNBC would write an opera, and broadcast it over three days. The word would become a Weltanschauung in ten seconds flat.

Attempts to appeal to the speaker’s humanity — “that’s not the Ann I know!” — would fall flat. And not just in the case of an Ann Coulter or a Sean Hannity, but for anyone on the “wrong” side. If the speaker were tough to paint as a sexist, the word would be used instead as an example of the “latent” sexism of American culture — a sexism so potent that it pulls even ostensibly good people into its clasps. Breathless comparisons to The Handmaid’s Tale would become de rigeur. And in would come the headshakers: “There’s just so much more work to be done,” they would sigh. “That the word came to mind in the first place shows that we’ve failed.”

But when Samantha Bee does it? It’s just a “word choice.” Hell, she might as well as have said “asparagus.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/samantha-bee-ivanka-comments-doubl...

>> By Thomas O' Bagenhammers (Thom2)

My opinion would be based on what cunty thing Chelsea Clinton did to deserve to be called a cunt, as well as the delivery and content of the joke. 

I do hope that we can maintain the sense of decorum which separates comedy shows from (supposed) news shows.  Content aside, while I enjoy ribald political comedy and don't mind humor from my news shows, I do appreciate that the language on a news show, no matter how shitty the content, is generally more proper.  As it should be.  Naughtiness is part of comedy.

>>>>>>>Sam Bee called Ivanka the worst word

I can think of some worse words.

>>>>>But when Samantha Bee does it? It’s just a “word choice.”

Which authority has proclaimed this - and why is "The Right" giving it so much power?

Yet not 1 word when Obama did the same thing re border security 

>>> Yet not 1 word when Obama did the same thing re border security 

See Hillman gets it. 

He made a death defying leap and BAM!

Comedy.

Good shit.

>>>>Yet not 1 word when Obama did the same thing re border security 

hillman, I honestly did not hear one word of what you speak, so I googled it.  I decided to bypass the NYT and read NPR's.  If you have a better source please share.

FACT CHECK: Are Democrats Responsible For DHS Separating Children From Their Parents?

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/29/615211215/fact-check-are-democrats-respon...

...Lee Gelernt of the ACLU Immigrants' Rights Project said Tuesday that "Children are begging and screaming not to be separated from their parents, as they're hauled off to different cities. It's a harrowing situation, one that the president himself called horrible. No law even remotely requires the separation of children, and we filed a recent lawsuit arguing, in fact, that the Constitution prohibits this policy."

In an interview with NPR's Morning Edition host Steve Inskeep Tuesday, former President Barack Obama's domestic policy director, Cecilia Muñoz, stated unequivocally that separating children from their parents was not a policy the Obama administration followed.

"The Obama administration did not do that, no. We did not separate children from their parents," Muñoz said. "This is a new decision, a policy decision put in place by the attorney general," which Muñoz said "puts us in league with the most brutal regimes in the world's history." ...

^^Oh crap!  I took the bait. 

No, Obama did not put every person coming over the border, even just the first time, into the criminal justice system, thus requiring that ALL families be separated.  Yes, some families were separated under Obama  (and every administration) but the whole point of Sessions' statement on this and what Trump is doing differently is that rather than simply deporting families, Trump has implemented a "zero-tolerance" rule which means every adult will be taken and charged with the crime of "Illegal Entry", in particular noting that yes, this will be implemented against parents with kids.  By diverting them into jails while they undergo their proceedings, they will necessarily be separated because you can't put the kids in jail with Mom.  Previous administrations, even GOP ones and even Obama, simply removed or deported most people and used their discretion to prosecute only people they felt "more deserving", such as serial border crossers, suspected coyotes, or people with prior criminal history.  These people were typically, but not always, prosecuted under the more serious offense of "Illegal Re-Entry After Deportation".  Administrations differed on which cases felt deserved that treatment, but no one has tried to prosecute everyone, especially making a point of prosecuting first time border-crossers with kids.

This is from an Alabama newspaper so you can read it slow and understand.        https://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2018/05/jeff_sessions_children_will_be...

May 8, 2018

Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced Monday that the Justice Department will begin prosecuting every person who illegally crosses into the United States along the Southwest border, a hard-line policy shift focusing in particular on migrants traveling with children.

In separate speeches - one in Scottsdale, Arizona, the other in San Diego - Sessions said the Department of Homeland Security will begin referring such cases to the Justice Department for prosecution. Federal prosecutors will "take on as many of those cases as humanly possible until we get to 100 percent," he said.

"If you cross the border unlawfully . . . then we will prosecute you," Sessions said. "If you smuggle an illegal alien across the border, then we'll prosecute you. . . . If you're smuggling a child, then we're going to prosecute you and that child will be separated from you, probably, as required by law. If you don't want your child separated, then don't bring them across the border illegally. It's not our fault that somebody does that.".....

Senior immigration and border officials called for the increased prosecutions last month in a confidential memo to Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen. They said filing criminal charges against migrants, including parents traveling with children, would be the "most effective" way to tamp down on illegal border crossings.......

The so-called "zero-tolerance" measure announced Monday could split up thousands of families because children are not allowed in criminal jails. Until now, most families apprehended crossing the border illegally have been released to await civil deportation hearings.

BTW, Sessions is a cunt.

>> This is from an Alabama newspaper so you can read it slow and understand. 

I thought you were from Florida? Didn't expect you to be making fun of the South. 

Not the south, homes, just you.

I'm not Hillman?