Yes, political correctness has gone too far. No, removing blatantly racist shit like the Redskin, Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemima is not going too far. It's called societal progress.
I recall being 9 or 10 years old and I called a black kid Jemima at the lake we were swimming at and the parents all came down on me with such wrath- I really had no idea the racist connotation of it- I just associated the black kid with the character on the syrup bottle.
The first five ingredients were sugar, the rest was artificial. As a kid, you basically drank it, went outside with your friends, ran around all day and burned it off.
And as a kid, no one thought about the racist implication of the figure of Aunt Jemima. She was a bottle of syrup and a tv commercial figure who made kids happy.
but fond memories aside, this was long overdue and a step in the right direction.
Those images, Dolittle, aren't just of Black people. They are the stereotypical house-boy and slave "mammy." They are outdated and stupid. Yes, I'd feel the same if it was a negative stereotype of a Chinese person or a Jew.
If you don't see that it's high time to move on from that shit, as a society, good for you.
A Harris poll showed that 51 percent of black men and 64 percent of black women believe Aunt Jemima should be rebranded, compared with 47 percent and 32 percent of white men and women, respectively. For Uncle Ben’s 47 percent of black men and 52 percent of black women support rebranding, compared to 37 percent and 24 percent, respectively, of white men and women.
So Ken it's 50/50 more or less.I could care less either way. But I never looked at it as racism. Too me calling a person black or white is more racist.
And Briank if you see AJ as a slave mammy then that's on you. I never did! Like I said I just saw her as an old Negro motherly figure.
You'll never understand the value of imagery and symbolism, and how it propagates systemic racism. I doubt that you'll ever understand systemic racism itself.
As a kid, we mainly noticed her doo-rag, and called it "wearing your bandana Aunt Jemima-style. Songs like the Rolling Stones' "Brown Sugar" and Ram Jam's cover of "Black Betty" competed for airplay with James Brown's "Say It Loud (I'm Black & I'm Proud" and Sly & The Family Stone's "Everyday People". The Band's "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" was popular, but so was the Staple Singers' cover of their song "The Weight". We watched tv shows like All In The Family, Sanford & Son, The Jefferson's, and Good Times. Everybody liked syrup on their pancakes, although Mrs. Butterworth's had the cooler anthropomorphic bottle.
"I'm too lazy to dedicate any amount of critical thought to the matter, and would rather just err towards hiding my inner closeted racist behind the curtain of just not giving a shit about much at all anyhow..."
> "I'm too lazy to dedicate any amount of critical thought to the matter, and would rather just err towards hiding my inner closeted racist behind the curtain of just not giving a shit about much at all anyhow..."
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on Tuesday, February 9, 2021 – 09:37 pm
SNL's version
SNL's version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFLuGVOWlkc
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Tuesday, February 9, 2021 – 09:43 pm
Didn't that happen like 2
Didn't that happen like 2 years ago?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 12:14 am
There's only one thing worse
There's only one thing worse in this universe
That's no Aunt Jemima's at all...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZbsFkvMSaY
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: dimethyllovebeam joe
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 01:49 am
She was cheap and tasted good
fell in love in '72
I was 7. She was cheap and tasted good.
rip, sweet mama
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 02:33 am
^sounds like your first
^sounds like your first hooker joe.
I think all this political correctness is a little over the top. Too many sensitive people today.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 06:57 am
Yes, political correctness
Yes, political correctness has gone too far. No, removing blatantly racist shit like the Redskin, Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemima is not going too far. It's called societal progress.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 07:27 am
Maybe not the climate to
Maybe not the climate to admit this but one Halloween I dressed up as Aunt Jemima when I was around 11.
RIP Ms. Sweet and Sticky
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Tim Wheres My Flashbacks
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 07:52 am
I dressed up as Aunt Jemima
I dressed up as Aunt Jemima when I was around 11.
^^^^^^^
I was 18
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 08:59 am
I recall being 9 or 10 years
I recall being 9 or 10 years old and I called a black kid Jemima at the lake we were swimming at and the parents all came down on me with such wrath- I really had no idea the racist connotation of it- I just associated the black kid with the character on the syrup bottle.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 09:37 am
Sorry Briank but if you find
Sorry Briank but if you find those people's images racist I think your looking too far into to what they represent. IMO!
If they were Chinese would you feel the same.
Is Juan Valdez a racist image?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 09:42 am
Ask a person of color.
Ask a person of color.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: dimethyllovebeam joe
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 10:39 am
the first five ingredients
The first five ingredients were sugar, the rest was artificial. As a kid, you basically drank it, went outside with your friends, ran around all day and burned it off.
And as a kid, no one thought about the racist implication of the figure of Aunt Jemima. She was a bottle of syrup and a tv commercial figure who made kids happy.
but fond memories aside, this was long overdue and a step in the right direction.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 10:44 am
True Surf. I wonder though
True Surf. I wonder though how many African Americans find it racist though.
And I saw Aunt Jemima as a grandmotherly figure.Nothing more.
Same with Uncle Ben.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 10:51 am
Those images, Dolittle, aren
Those images, Dolittle, aren't just of Black people. They are the stereotypical house-boy and slave "mammy." They are outdated and stupid. Yes, I'd feel the same if it was a negative stereotype of a Chinese person or a Jew.
If you don't see that it's high time to move on from that shit, as a society, good for you.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond Jonas
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 11:00 am
If you feel attached to a
If you feel attached to a high fructose corn syrup i'm not sure what to say.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 11:00 am
>>>>Ask a person of color
>>>>Ask a person of color
A Harris poll showed that 51 percent of black men and 64 percent of black women believe Aunt Jemima should be rebranded, compared with 47 percent and 32 percent of white men and women, respectively. For Uncle Ben’s 47 percent of black men and 52 percent of black women support rebranding, compared to 37 percent and 24 percent, respectively, of white men and women.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 11:15 am
So Ken it's 50/50 more or
So Ken it's 50/50 more or less.I could care less either way. But I never looked at it as racism. Too me calling a person black or white is more racist.
And Briank if you see AJ as a slave mammy then that's on you. I never did! Like I said I just saw her as an old Negro motherly figure.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 11:18 am
You'll never understand the
You'll never understand the value of imagery and symbolism, and how it propagates systemic racism. I doubt that you'll ever understand systemic racism itself.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 11:27 am
Doolittle doesn't see any
Doolittle doesn't see any issue at all here.
gee, go figure.......
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 11:47 am
If 50% of African American's
If 50% of African American's have no problem with it and don't see it as racist then why do you!!!!
But like I said I could care less either way!
I
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 11:50 am
As a kid, we mainly noticed
As a kid, we mainly noticed her doo-rag, and called it "wearing your bandana Aunt Jemima-style. Songs like the Rolling Stones' "Brown Sugar" and Ram Jam's cover of "Black Betty" competed for airplay with James Brown's "Say It Loud (I'm Black & I'm Proud" and Sly & The Family Stone's "Everyday People". The Band's "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" was popular, but so was the Staple Singers' cover of their song "The Weight". We watched tv shows like All In The Family, Sanford & Son, The Jefferson's, and Good Times. Everybody liked syrup on their pancakes, although Mrs. Butterworth's had the cooler anthropomorphic bottle.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 11:52 am
"I'm too lazy to dedicate any
"I'm too lazy to dedicate any amount of critical thought to the matter, and would rather just err towards hiding my inner closeted racist behind the curtain of just not giving a shit about much at all anyhow..."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 12:13 pm
This isn't a "cancel culture"
This isn't a "cancel culture" issue. It's moving on from ingrained and harmful racial stereotypes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 12:26 pm
> "I'm too lazy to dedicate
> "I'm too lazy to dedicate any amount of critical thought to the matter, and would rather just err towards hiding my inner closeted racist behind the curtain of just not giving a shit about much at all anyhow..."
Derp, in a word.
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on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 12:31 pm
I feel like this happened a
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 12:48 pm
They announced the change last Summer during the George Floyd protests. Yesterday was when it became official with the name change.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lord Kalvert Lloyd_Klondike
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 01:56 pm
I've been a Log Cabin guy for
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 06:42 pm
I'm fine with store brands.
I'm fine with store brands. But when I finish the open box I'm gonna try a scratch recipe that landed in my inbox.
"All Recipes" or "Cooking Professionally" site. Can't 'member.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 08:20 pm
Real maple syrup or nothin'
Real maple syrup or nothin' at all.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 – 08:55 pm
Surfdead knows what's what. I
Surfdead knows what's what. I'm surprised no Vermont zoners made this point earlier.