A Religion of Peace and Love

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To update you on my son's Muslim girlfriend...a few days after graduation in May her parents sent her to India for "two weeks." They showed up after three weeks and told her she would be staying indefinitely because they fear she will leave the family. She is still there. They withheld all her graduation gifts (over 120 at her graduation party) and now refuse to allow her to attend college because an "education is not important for females." I sat down with these people for two hours in early May. They wanted to me to stress to her that if she doesn't marry within the "community" she would be disinherited, disowned, and maybe worse (see article above). I told them they raised her in America, as an American, and they can't handle it when she wants to live like one. And choosing your mate is part of living in a free country. I then calmly explained that, in my eyes, they are racists towards Americans. They couldn't argue with me. The meeting ended on a good note, we agreed to disagree and left it at that. 

I've advised my son to forget this girl and move on as he likely will never see her in person again. To do so could be fatal for her. 

Religion of peace and love? Right...

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Hopefully there is a destination bluegrass event in the caribbean coming up soon that can soothe your worries of religions that bother you.

That's not representative of the whole religion, Rick.

 

That's like saying the Owensville Baptist Church represents all of Christanity, the JDL represents all of Judaism or Warren Jeffs and his Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints represents all of Mormonism.  Each of these religions may be a little quirky, but broadly painting them as inherently evil is neither tolerant nor correct.

 

Sorry for your son and his girlfriend's heartache.  Intolerance is the real culprit here.

Great points, Dave. And your last sentence speaks volumes.

Divide? Don't really have a comeback for you except to say you must be envious...

i would suggests a dense reading/listening  of Gad Saad. 

Knotseau, of course they are not being held accountable, and that has moved from mind blowing to me, to just, gross. 

Nice try convincing , Rick. Close minded is as close minded does, I guess.  

Nice google bro

So WHICH IS the religion of peace and love? 

Sounds like the parents are the Mr. & Mrs. Archie Bunker of Muslim India.

That said, I can cite examples of many "good" Muslims and "bad" Christians, Hindus, Catholics, Jews, etc...

Stereotypes are for the intellectually lazy, and the spiritually underdeveloped.

Sorry you and your family are going through this, but please don't besmirch my muslim friends and brothers.

I don't dislike these people because they are of the Islam faith. I dislike them because they are assholes using their religion as an excuse to be assholes. 

I have friends that are Muslim and we've discussed the situation. They think it's bullshit, too. But they also say it is what it is and it will never change.

As I've said before, if they were atheists they'd still disgust me.

>> I don't dislike these people because they are of the Islam faith. <<

But, you said: "Religion of peace and love? Right..."

Please. Lame troll.

All religions are about control when you get down to it.

 

How come the word of God always comes from man?

>>>>>>I have friends that are Muslim

 

lol

* How come the word of God always comes from a man? *

Because many years ago, the planet was run by women. Religion was invented to take the power away from the ladies.  

I hear they are coming back and they are ready to rumble... 

Religion developed as a means to explain the unknown. Or, more importantly, the fear of the unknown. That fear was then turned to control the fearful follower.

Orwell was right.

True. Google " When Women Had Tails" to trail heads statement 

>>>All religions are about control when you get down to it.

celestial authoritarianism?

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this will to divide extremist/radical (pick your religion) from the mass of that religion, as if they have some other books everyone else isn't accessing, will never cease to be intriguing to me. should we actually be dividing out those who choose to ignore?

cafeteria _______(insert religion of choice). 

 

 

The OP tells a sad story about the denial of basic human rights by religious extremists, but then goes on to use that story to make overt swipes at an entire religion.  

That being said, there does seem to be a trend whereby some people are almost muted by fear of being labeled an Islamophobe from calling out the really horrible human rights abuses committed by some Islamic sects in the name of religion.  This extends to foreign policy, where the US turns a blind eye to the treatment of women and foreign workers in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Arab States, yet won't hesitate to impose embargos, travel bans, and sanctions on other countries like Cuba which, while not perfect, don't engage in the type of wholesale gender apartheid and modern day slavery being perpetrated by some Arab state allies.  

And certainly, traditional taboos about marrying outside one's community and treating women as second class citizens isn't limited to Arab or Muslim countries.  You can find similar practices in Hindu, Christian, and Orthodox Jewish households.  How long ago did women get the right to vote in this country?   But Muslims shouldn't get a pass to treat women and girls as property just because of all the other, unwarranted hostility shown against them by some in the West.

>>>Don't really have a comeback for you except to say you must be envious...

I'm not white enough to want to fly to Mexico and listen to 5 jamgrass bands.

have him find a nice Jewish girl

Here's some more of Ricks Islamaphobe threads from Viva:

 http://vivalazone.org/other-stuff/update-my-sons-muslim-girlfriend

http://vivalazone.org/other-stuff/sad-update-my-sons-muslim-gf

 

He still hasn't posted her picture.  I for one have my doubts as to whether or not she's real.

I think it's more of a classism issue.

I think it would be shitty to post her picture here, since people are so prone to reusing, photoshopping and reposting pictures. She could end up appearing with Chris Christie somewhere.

>>>>>>I think it would be shitty to post her picture here

 

more or less shitty than talking shit on her family and religion?

Muslims / Moslems that move from their countries of origin to other nations are not about adapting to cultural norms in the new host country.

They are more interested in retaining their previous cultural and religious values,  yet adapting to the newly-obtainable Wealth-Streams.

Once established,  their goal is to assimilate the Host nation toward their belief system.  It's not just my opinion, but a realistic explanation of Facts.

Mr.  Skevap's  explanation of  his Real Story should be looked upon as a Genuine Illustration of Truth. 

While I am sad that a fine Teenage Romance got torn apart over racist and religious dogma,  there is a lot to learn in this story, and I am glad that it was shared.

>>>>>>I think it would be shitty to post her picture here

more or less shitty than talking shit on her family and religion? <<<

 

Posting anything personally identifying (pic, name, etc.) could be dangerous.

Talking shit about her family and religion ... isn't what I would do, but it's illuminating about Rick's perceptions.

So from what I read,  the parents removed their Girl from USA and forcibly deported her back to India or Pakistan,  and said "No University Education for you".

All with threat of dis-inheritance or family cutoff.

While I support their belief - structure of strict Islamic values and orthodoxy within their cultural paradigm,  the whole scenario does not lead me to believe that they are looking toward blending in with the progressive and pro-Female values of their host Nation.  That would be here, the United States.

The story illustrates that they treat their Daughter as a piece of Livestock :  a Cow, or Sheep, or Chicken.

So,  I am somewhat unsettled that anyone would promote that sort of behavior in our modern Society,  which allows Women to think for themselves and choose their own Destiny.  It was way back when that USA Women were allowed to Vote,  Drive,  and even be Politicians.  We've come a long way.

I am grateful to live in Modern Society where Females are just plain old Regular Citizens,  not Cattle.  Sorry if I Imply that Orthodox Moslem culture is repressive and backwards in their slave-policy,  but that is actually the Truth.

>>>Muslims / Moslems that move from their countries of origin to other nations are not about adapting to cultural norms in the new host country.

i think 30 of the near 60 nations in the OIC are almost 99% Muslim, so imagine migrating to the west from one of those countries where now you are a religious minority amongst millions of people who were dhimmi back home, where religion was the law(you don't have to add law to sharia, it's just sharia), where you quite possibly never interacted with someone who was a dhimmi. all so incredibly interesting to me. 

what was it that Taliban spokeman said, "The American have the clocks, we have all the time."   inshallah