Anybody here do it? Thinking about it for our dog who's had an ear infection pretty much the whole time we've had her. The vet just shrugs her shoulders and gives another tube of shit that clears it up for about a week. Then it starts all over again. I'm cleaning shit out of her ears twice a day and its started to get very painful for her which isn't a lot of fun for me either. Heard conflicting stories about the diet and just wondering if any here do it. Willing to try anything at this point.
She's a good dog
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: charmskooldropout hounder
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 04:46 pm
Also, can anyone but disco
Also, can anyone but disco stu reply to this thread. thanks
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bluelight Odysseus
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 04:46 pm
If that VET can not solve the
If that VET can not solve the ear problem. You need a new VET right away. Your dog is in serious discomfort and they're too kind to burden you with their pain
There's new medications out 2017, that can solve this problem. Your VET needs to get with the program.
If the food you eat is good for you (not chile Hounder) its healthy for a sick or older dog.
Get white meat chicken and boil it, don't over cook it. Make 3-4 cups of white rice and add the chicken.
Spoon feed the dog, they'll love you for it.
Get a new VET
Peace
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: charmskooldropout hounder
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 04:52 pm
Thanks for your opinion, but
Thanks for your opinion, but that's not what I was looking for. I'm asking for peoples experience feeding a raw food diet to their dogs. Chicken and rice, lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ________ Heybrochacho
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 04:54 pm
>Thanks for your opinion, but
>Thanks for your opinion, but that's not what I was looking for
lol
strange dude
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 04:58 pm
I add some raw food to his
I add some raw food to his nightly kibble. It’s about the same cost per pound. I’d go whole hog, but I need him to eat kibble for the convenience.
I give it to him frozen, and he still loves it. Here’s my recipe:
raw chicken wings, bones and all, run through the grater blade of the processor
Organic beef organ meats, processed with a few eggs, shells and all
whatever fresh veggies I have, grated or processed
I mix it all together with som yoghurt and coconut oil, then form it into 1/4 cup patties, which I freeze, he gets a patty or two with the evening kibble.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: charmskooldropout hounder
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 05:11 pm
Thanks Bri. I've also heard
Thanks Bri. I've also heard conflicting things about coconut oil for dogs. any problems with it for you?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 05:16 pm
Small amounts good, large
Small amounts good, large amounts bad. I put a few tablespoons in a couple of pounds, so no biggie.
The key, I guess, is to make sure they get bones and shells. I don’t feed him enough to need to make it perfect, but my recipe is pretty close.
My big issue is the chicken, which is a major allergen, I don’t know what to substitute (that’s cost effective) that has the bones that can be ground up.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Subway Token Turtle
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 05:24 pm
there's a guy at the brewery
there's a guy at the brewery that has a nice german shepard. he tells me it is a $1000/mo dog...
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on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 05:28 pm
For $1000 p/m it should do
For $1000 p/m it should do laundry and dishes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Subway Token Turtle
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 05:29 pm
he goes to day care then gets
he goes to day care then gets a home cooked meal...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: The Mayor Coyotte
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 05:37 pm
Many dogs cant handle poultry
Many dogs cant handle poultry or soy.. also try Panalog 2X a day in the ear by cotton ball, you can get this from any vet
Good luck...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 05:38 pm
Min goes to daycare 2 days a
Min goes to daycare 2 days a week, and it takes me 20 minutes to make 2 months worth food. I love the mutt, but not $1000 a month!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sound and Vision 4winds
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 06:40 pm
check with disco stu...he
check with disco stu...he once suggested a diet of hard salami.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: charmskooldropout hounder
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 07:24 pm
How'd you make out?
How'd you make out?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dr. Benway daylight
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 07:36 pm
you want to make out with you
you want to make out with your dog?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 10:16 pm
Feeding your animal Beans,
Feeding your animal Beans, or Steaks, or Carrots will not fix the ear infection.
You are a total ignoramus if you think diet will help a long-term ear infection.
Go to a competent Veterinarian (animal doctor) and get the prescription ear drops and / or salve.
Then get some help applying those medications, if you are not capable on your own.
What are you thinking, keeping a pet, if you are too stupid or lazy to take care of it ??
Grow up already.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 11:13 pm
Stu, I think you missed the
Stu, I think you missed the part about the infection being constant and the medicine working only temporarily.
There’s a ton of empirical data on a raw diet clearing up pervasive ear and skin problems.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fish fish
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 11:17 pm
Have another beer stu
Have another beer stu
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Friday, January 12, 2018 – 11:34 pm
Bk, fish,
Bk, fish,
Kindly refrain from being condescending little turds.
I'm well aware of the Canine dietary options. Hüsky eats quite well, and has excellent health.
Dog ear infections will not be solved with dietary changes. One actually has to apply medication to the ears.
Speak with a licensed Veterinarian and confirm that, before you babble your gibberish at me.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: charmskooldropout hounder
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 08:16 am
A vet you say? wow why didn't
A vet you say? wow why didn't I think of that?
stu is an angry drunk
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 10:02 am
Why be such a dick, hounder?
Why be such a dick, hounder?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 10:13 am
Damn, this thread became
Damn, this thread became weird. Not sure Hounder is being a dick, especially after Stu’s post to him. Accusations, name-calling, and all that shit.
Anyway, if it’s chronic, and the meds only work for a week or so, it makes total sense to use the meds and concurrently move the a raw diet. If the kibble is the underlying cause, then it won’t return. If it’s not, at least the dog will be eating way better.
i get it ...it sucks that the vet isn’t looking for the cause and is content just treating the symptoms.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 10:14 am
Floops, go ahead and google
Floops,
1. Run a google image search for a dog / save image.
2. Post image to drugband message board and claim to own pictured dog.
3. ???
4. Profit!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: charmskooldropout hounder
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 01:42 pm
Why be such a dick, hounder?
Why be such a dick, hounder?
I don't know, I think it was the stupid/lazy part. While we're asking questions, I have one for you-
Why don't you go fuck yourself?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 02:09 pm
Raw food will not clear the
Raw food will not clear the ear infection. Your pup needs some of the correct antibiotics , STAT.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GravyTrain Gravytrain
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 02:12 pm
1. Run a google image search
https://www.vivalazone.org/comment/125681#comment-125681
...good dog
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: pumpkin lurker phishie
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 02:41 pm
^^^^Newfun?
^^^^Newfun?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 02:48 pm
Ha ha ha, I see you,
Ha ha ha, I see you, Gravystain !
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Good Trouble Nancyinthesky
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 03:14 pm
This article covers
This article covers everything our vet told us about the reoccurring ear infection our pup was experiencing. Gotta do a culture and target the bacteria with the correct drug, most of the time the bacteria is never 100 percent killed and that reoccurring infection is just the same (or slightly mutated) infection the dog has been dealing with over time. The raw food diet is fine but if there’s an infection it’s certainly not going to cure it. We also have to wash our dog’s ears out daily to prevent infections as he’s aged and his immune system isn’t as strong. And cut back on the number of days he gets to swim. Our vet gave us a good ear wash that works. And there was a waxy antibiotic ear treatment that cleared up one ear that wasn’t as inflamed after 2 treatments.
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+2116&aid=993
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Subway Token Turtle
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 03:21 pm
wow dogs seem like a real
wow dogs seem like a real pain in the ass
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Good Trouble Nancyinthesky
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 03:22 pm
Cheaper than kids.
Cheaper than kids.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: MarkD ntfdaway
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 03:29 pm
Stu fucks up another thread?
Stu fucks up another thread? Who'd a thunk.
My dog has similar problems with her eyes. Antibiotics work well. Then a week or so later it comes back. The vet thinks it may be something in the soil in the backyard.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Good Trouble Nancyinthesky
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 03:38 pm
See the link I posted above,
See the link I posted above, Mark.
>Resistance. Several problems can occur in the treatment of bacterial diseases that may cause them to turn into chronic, long-term disorders. Probably the most common reason is that the bacteria causing the problem (be it an ear, eye, bladder, or other infection) is not affected by the antibiotic being used. That is, they are not sensitive to (killed by) the medication. There are many different antibiotics available for use in human and veterinary medicine. Although there are similarities between them, most have different mechanisms of action, which determines exactly how they kill or destroy bacteria. Simply stated, if a bacterial species is not affected by the particular mechanism of the antibiotic used, it will not be killed, inhibited, or affected at all. It is then said to be resistant to the medication. There is no all-inclusive, broad-spectrum preparation that kills every kind of bacteria. Each one affects a few different types of bacteria, but none is effective against them all.
The second - and related - problem leading to chronicity or recurrence of infections is that during the course of treatment, bacteria have the ability to mutate, or change, and in doing so develop a resistance to the medication. For the first few days or weeks that an antibiotic is used, it may do an excellent job at eliminating the organisms present. The patient starts to return to normal health and we feel we are well on the way to a complete cure. However, after this initial stage, a portion of the bacteria may change and alter their structure or physiology, so that they are no longer affected by the particular mechanism of action utilized by the medication. With these newly altered properties, the disease-causing organisms increase in number and the signs of the disease return. This is what is meant by 'acquired' resistance.
Some microbiologists feel that this is not exactly the way it happens. They believe that in the millions of the same kind of bacterial organisms present during an infection, some may not be exactly alike. All of the people living in an American city are the same species, but genetically, they vary greatly from individual to individual. The same is true within the population of bacteria causing the infection in your pet. These same microbiologists believe that within this number, there are some individual bacteria that already have a natural resistance to the antibiotic being used. As the medication eliminates the rest of the bacteria, those individuals that are not affected will greatly increase in number, and the signs of the disease will return. For practical purposes, however, it makes little difference whether the disease-producing organisms previously had or later gained the ability to function in the presence of the medication. In either case, the results are the same. The patient's illness returns or never goes away....
...
A 'culture and sensitivity' is the name given to the laboratory test that determines what bacteria or yeast may be present in a sample, and what drug will kill that bacteria/yeast. To use a common example, although the same principles apply with any possible infection, let us say we are confronted with a 70-pound Labrador that loves to swim daily and now has an inflamed ear. If we really want to get all the information we would like, the only way is to do a 'culture and sensitivity.' It will tell us:
Exactly which organism is causing the problem.
What the best medication is to use.
When your physician or veterinarian prescribes a medication for an infection without performing a culture or sensitivity, he or she is just making a "best guess" as to the type of infection and proper treatment.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: charmskooldropout hounder
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 04:07 pm
Thanks nanc and the other
Thanks nanc and the other helpful people on this thread. I'm not trying to cure anything with a raw fod diet. Obviously the dog is sensitive to something whether its in her food, I don't know. I just want her to feel better. Oh, and fuck you stu
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 04:28 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 06:26 pm
My bad, Hounder. I
My bad, Hounder. I misinterpreted your original post.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: charmskooldropout hounder
on Saturday, January 13, 2018 – 07:32 pm
No sweat jaz. Enjoy that new
No sweat jaz. Enjoy that new addition.
Slack, have I told you I love you lately?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: MarkD ntfdaway
on Sunday, January 14, 2018 – 03:10 pm
Thanks Nancy. We had the test
Thanks Nancy. We had the test done and it said that this med should wipe it out easy. And after it comes back, same meds kill it right away again, so it is not mutating. We think she is getting re-infected from something. Maybe in the yard, maybe in the dirt. She digs a lot.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Zoner Benjamin T. Bear
on Sunday, January 14, 2018 – 03:19 pm
Raw dog is what's up!
Raw dog is what's up!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Good Trouble Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, January 14, 2018 – 03:32 pm
Try washing off the dogs paws
Try washing off the dogs paws or at least wiping them off before she comes inside, Mark. We found some success with just saline eye drops (over the counter stuff) when our pup was dealing with reoccurring eye infections. Rinsing out the eyes before the bacteria gets a chance to grow, and keeping the bacteria out of the eyes by keeping those paws clean. Wash the dog's bedding regularly too.