Quarantine

I flew United.  I felt safe both at the airports and on the plane.  Not only are airfares very low but airports are not crowded like I'm used to.  Everyone at the airports had masks on and social distanced, checkin, security, at the gate, everywhere.  I believe security would quickly remind anyone if they were seen without a mask.  There was also tons of hand sanitizer all over the place.  Many restaurants and food places in the airports are closed, the open ones enforce strict rules.  The planes boarded by rows back to front and when landing everyone has to stay seated until they called your row to deplane, front to back.  Planes are deep cleaned every night and sanitized before every flight.  When boarding they handed out wipes, I had also brought my own, many people used them to wipe down their seats, armrests etc.  the flights I was on were probably at 50-60% capacity.  My feeling is that the corona risk is higher as soon as you leave the airport than it is while traveling.

Going to DNB HI shows we were right on the edge of the "lockdown" and traveling was probably not as safe as now, all these precautions weren't in place in March. 

>>You would think that states with those requirements would allow someone to simply take a Covid test when they get back and if it comes back clean, no requirement to quarantine for 14 days.   That is what a lot of countries are doing for foreign travelers.

Ken, I actually called the health department and asked that question before I went to CA.  Was hoping a test would shorten my quarantine time.  It doesn't work that way because you could be exposed and still pass the test for many days.  Just like the symptoms can take up to 14 days to appear.  Test tells you if you have it at detectable levels at the time you take the test, it can't tell if you were exposed and will have it several days later.

Hi Local!  Son has moved back home after 2 years of college, he doesn't know what he wants to do...but he did get a full time job at the local dairy this week.

>>Good luck with sheltering in place. I suggest a lot of pizza and beer!

wish I could find a place that delivers brew...and wine, and Pastis lol

Local, how cool is that, what an unexpected offer!  No need to have your mom come over (got it solved) but thanks!

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-08-05/is-it-safe-to-fly-...

"Arnold Barnett, a professor of management science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, has been trying to quantify the odds of catching Covid-19 from flying. He’s factored in a bunch of variables, including the odds of being seated near someone in the infectious stage of the disease, and the odds that the protection of masks (now required on most flights) will fail. He’s accounted for the way air is constantly renewed in airplane cabins, which experts say makes it very unlikely you’ll contract the disease from people who aren’t in your immediate vicinity — your row, or, to a lesser extent, the person across the aisle, the people ahead of you or the people behind you."

"If you decide to fly, the odds that you will pick up Covid-19 are low, according to one expert analysis. Despite the known dangers of crowded, enclosed spaces, planes have not been the sites of so-called superspreading events, at least so far."

"What Barnett came up with was that we have about a 1/4300 chance of getting Covid-19 on a full 2-hour flight — that is, about 1 in 4300 passengers will pick up the virus, on average. The odds of getting the virus are about half that, 1/7700, if airlines leave the middle seat empty. He’s posted his results as a not-yet-peer-reviewed preprint."

"Bromage says that the air exchange system in planes is better than in hospitals, with the air in the cabin being completely replaced 30 times every hour."

"Real-world data bodes well for flying, too. Australia has been using contact tracing to investigate Covid transmission on hundreds of flights, and has found that while infected people got on planes, nobody got infected on a plane."

Done with the Q!  
Tomorrow I'm going for a motorcycle ride and a favorite hike.  Great to be able to get out again!