The Moral Dilemma That Is the Super Bowl
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It is well known that the Pats and the Eagles are both unpopular with many factions of people. Sorry, but that's just the way it is, consider yourselves extra special if you are a fan. For those of us who are not, it is difficult to consider how to approach this.
1. Go Pats
2. Go Eagles
3. Try to remain neutral and enjoy the commercials
4. Go bowling
I feel that I have to be prepared so I don't get sucked into cheering for the wrong team and I find it difficult to stay completely neutral. My official position is neutrality but aside from that, this is tough.
General principles dictate cheering for the underdog, especially one who has never won a championship. However, no one really wants to Eagles fans to have a Super Bowl win, because a Super Bowl win is forever. On the other hand, as much as I wish ill upon the Pats, it really does not change the scales of cosmic justice if they win again. Another win, Eagles stay shut out, this is as close to status quo as you can get.
However, fuck Tom Brady and all the rest of them. Anything that can hasten his retirement is good for everyone.
My head says it is best if Pats win, but I don't think I can pull it off. It would be nice to think that Eagles fans would stop acting like Eagles fans if they actually won and got to sit at the big boy table, but I don't think it's gonna happen. I'll probably end up hoping for the Eagles but there is nothing good about this. Probably no one will watch the Super Bowl and Trump will blame it on the players kneeling. That would be sooooo Patriots/Eagles.
How are the rest of you approaching this fiasco?
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Fuck the cheaters.
Fuck the cheaters.
I only root for one team, they didn't make it this year, so I'm going purely on hate for his one.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune
go beagles.
go beagles.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Painted Mandolin
From Today's Opinion piece in
From Today's Opinion piece in the NYT from Frank Bruni:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/opinion/patriots-super-bowl.html
"I don’t think that I can even food-bribe myself into watching. There aren’t enough Buffalo wings in the world. On account of a wearyingly familiar come-from-behind victory over the Jacksonville Jaguars on Sunday, the New England Patriots will be playing, and that’s about as surprising as sesame seeds on a bun.
The Patriots perfectly embody our income-inequality era and the tax reform that President Trump recently signed. Their good fortune begets more good fortune. They shamelessly hoard glory. And there’s frequently a whiff of cheating in their success.
Shockingly, they’re Trump’s team. This makes no geographic sense: The ZIP codes of his primary castles recommend allegiance to the New York Giants, the New York Jets or maybe the Miami Dolphins.
But those National Football League franchises have reliable losing streaks, and Trump won’t suffer that. Also, when he looks at the Patriots’ glamour-puss quarterback, Tom Brady, he sees a younger, less quizzically coifed version of himself, complete with a foreign-born model for a wife. Trust me on this. He just squints extra hard, sucks in his gut and begs Melania to answer to “Gisele” for a while.....
...Please forgive the mixed bestial metaphor, but these Eagles aren’t cuddly underdogs. They have fans so famously obnoxious that after Sunday’s rout, some of them threw beer cans at a Vikings team bus as it pulled away from the stadium. Sore winning: I wonder which of our amazing leaders taught them that."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic
Post-game moron Philly fan
Post-game moron Philly fan vids are priceless.
So there's that factor.
But can they achieve that level of stupid when the game is played out of town?
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb
^haha, that def left a mark.
^haha, that def left a mark. lol
GO EAGLES
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D.
Well, if the Pats win, they
Well, if the Pats win, they will then be tied with the Steelers for the most Super Bowl wins (six). Brady will also be the only player in NFL history with six Super Bowl wins. Always cool to see history in the making.
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There's a lot of suck in this
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark
I agree with Ken. Obviously I
I agree with Ken. Obviously I root against the Patriots every season as a Broncos fan; but we are witnessing something truly special with Brady, and I choose to enjoy it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: (~)};)StealYourFace
I come early for the football
I come early for the football pool squares and stay for the Beer and Guacomole...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond
Like I said in last weeks
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Tim
Coach Bill Belichick will be
Coach Bill Belichick will be coaching his 11th super bowl out of 52 total super bowl games.
That is 21.2 % of all super bowls.
that is a crazy stat
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if you can't appreciate the
if you can't appreciate the Pat's and Brady you're not a fan of the game. << Oh BULLSH^T............!
It's Easy To Enjoy Watching Football and NEVER Watch A Patriots Game !
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: I rang a silent bell
I’ll probably be on a plane
I’ll probably be on a plane or stuck at an airport somewhere on my way home from the Phil show at Crystal Ballroom ... so might miss the super bowl this year. I’m not a fan of the game so it’s all good :-)
Normally I just like the halftime, commercials, and checking if my squares won money.
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I'm a Jet's fan.
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McNally: Tom sucks...im going
McNally: Tom sucks...im going make that next ball a f----- balloon
Jastremski: Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up and
said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done...
Jastremski: I told him it was. He was right though...
Jastremski: I checked some of the balls this morn... The refs f----- us...a few of then (sic) were at almost 16
Jastremski: They didnt recheck then after they put air in them
McNally: F--- tom ...16 is nothing...wait till next sunday
Jastremski: Omg! Spaz
Then on Oct. 23, three days before a Sunday game against the Chicago Bears, Jastremski and McNally exchanged these messages:
Jastremski:
“Can’t wait to give you your needle this week :)
McNally: F--- tom....make sure the pump is attached to the needle…..f----- watermelons coming
Jastremski: So angry
McNally: The only thing deflating sun..is his passing rating
Here was their exchange on the next day, Oct. 24:
Jastremski: I have a big needle for u this week
McNally: Better be surrounded by cash and newkicks....or its a rugby sunday
McNally: F--- tom
Jastremski: Maybe u will have some nice size 11s in ur locker
McNally: Tom must really be working your balls hard this week
And again on Oct. 25:
Jastremski: Size 11?
Jastremski: 2 or 3X?
McNally: Tom must really be on you
McNally: 11 0r 11 half......2x unless its tight fitting
Jastremski: Nah. Hasn’t even mentioned it, figured u should get something since he gives u nothing
Eleven days before the AFC Championship Game, McNally and Jastremski discussed McNally receiving items autographed by Brady the following weekend, before the playoff game against the Baltimore Ravens, according to the report.
McNally: Remember to put a couple sweet pig skins ready for tom to sign
Jastremski: U got it kid...big autograph day for you
McNally: Nice throw some kicks in and make it real special
Jastremski: It ur lucky. 11?
McNally: 11 or 11 and half kid
Finally before the start of the 2014-2015 season, McNally referred to himself as “the deflator.”
McNally: You working
Jastremski: Yup
McNally: Nice dude....jimmy needs some kicks....lets make a deal.....come on help the deflator
McNally: Chill buddy im just f----- with you ....im not going to espn........yet
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GO CHEESESTEAKS!
GO CHEESESTEAKS!
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>>How are the rest of you
>>How are the rest of you approaching this fiasco?
BETTING the coin flip!!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Keithk1
I went to the Super Bowl
I went to the Super Bowl these two teams played in Jacksonville. I'm a Raider fan from the NYC area. Went with a friend who is the same. We were waiting for the plane to take off and were discussing who we were going to root for.
The Pat run had just begun. We decided we liked Belichick so we'd go for the Pats. Then the plane started to fill with Massholes. After 10 minutes of listening to their yapping we looked at each other and I said guess it's the Eagles.
What I took from the game was how lame the Eagles fans were. It was like they were waiting to loose. We were sitting in the middle of hundreds of them at the game and my friend and I were rooting harder for the Eagles than their fans were. I got up early in the 3rd quarter and started to give them shit. Come on people it's the freaking Super Bowl. Your team is in this game. Stop sitting on your hands and start acting like fans. Didn't work. Like their team they rolled over like dogs and took the loss.
Big bad Eagle fans. Take them out of Philly and they've got nothing.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune
jonas on tom's jock.
jonas on tom's jock.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry
The great thing about being a
The great thing about being a sports fan is that any way one chooses to enjoy sports is fine, be it fair weather, band-wagoning, deep love of one team or deep hatred of another/s, generally ambivalent but liking to eat hotdogs and drink beer, whatever, but this I just don't really get...
>>>fuck Tom Brady and all the rest of them. Anything that can hasten his retirement is good for everyone<<<
Personally I love watching/being exposed to greatness in all things, and hate him or not that guy is the greatest there's ever been and it's pretty amazing to watch him rise to the moment time & time again. Players like Brady don't come along very often, like almost never, and unless your team has to face him twice a year I don't really get why it's good for anyone to see him gone.
It's odd how so often we love the underdog or the new flavor until they're great and not new anymore, and then we HATE them. Humans are strange, and that's one of the things I love most about sports, especially when it's played at it's highest level; it can so clearly reveal the human condition, both the good and the NOT so good.
As for who I'll be rooting for, I have no real rooting interest or lingering personal issue with either team. As I said I love greatness, so if the Pats win again that will just continue to demonstrate how fucking great that dynasty is (it's incredibly hard to GET to a Super Bowl let alone win even one, and these guys have been there so often it's incredible) and if the Eagles win then good for the team that probably would have won it rather easily if their great young QB wasn't hurt, and good for their long-suffering fans.
And if the Eagles win their fans will continue to be more or less as obnoxious as they've always been, because all football fans are generally obnoxious win or lose. I mean, even the hapless Tampa Bay Bucs won a Super Bowl once (I think... they did, right?). Did that change how their fans act? I doubt that it did. Anyway, the Eagles do have that great young QB and are really good now in general, so if they don't win this year they'll be right back at it again next year, so let 'em yowl, because they will no matter what happens.
So in this one I'll just be rooting for a good game that is won by excellent play, not lost on a mistake or the fucking refs getting in the way. If that happens I'll be OK with whichever team wins.
Otherwise...
GO NINERS!!!!!!!!!
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God Niners and their fans are
God Niners and their fans are so milquetoast that it reminds me why I never got into them.
I actually don't think it is good for the game to have one team dominate as the Patriots have. We've all seen him be great, this is just another sequel with the same rehashed plot.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino
I can understand the Patriots
I can understand the Patriots hate. If they hadn’t become my team in 76 I would probably hate them, but America should be thankful that in the Brady era they always make it an interesting game win or lose.
New England 20, St. Louis 17
New England 32, Carolina 29
New England 24, Philadelphia 21
New York Giants 17, New England 14
New York Giants 21, New England Patriots 17
New England Patriots 28, Seattle Seahawks 24
New England Patriots 34, Atlanta Falcons 28
I’m looking forward to the Eagles getting an early lead, and then continuing to play aggressive offense because you can’t have too big of a lead against the Pats leading to Foles throwing several pick sixes resulting in a Patriots win.
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Go Eagles....fuck the Pats
Go Eagles....fuck the Pats
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: DNB - Best band & fans in the land!
I simply cannot bring myself
I simply cannot bring myself to root for the Patsies
so... Eagles by default, and a hope that the game is competitive into the 4th quarter and that the commercials are engaging
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Go Eagles!
Go Eagles!
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#tombradywearsuggs
#tombradywearsuggs
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: donster
Can't wait: Pitchers and
Can't wait: Pitchers and catchers report to Spring Training on Feb 13th .....
Is something happening in the NFL?????
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Eagles got get this one for
Eagles got get this one for the city. Third time is a charm, bitches.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur
If the Super Bowl is indeed a
If the Super Bowl is indeed a moral dilemma, then the only choice is to not watch the game as to remove yourself from the situation. Of course, sports and most other things in this world, are filled with cheating/bending the rules. It is rather drastic to remove yourself for all those things.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius
"The Patriots perfectly
"The Patriots perfectly embody our income-inequality era and the tax reform that President Trump recently signed"
Somebody's had way too much to think.
Oh, and go Eagles.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sigmund
^^^ my team in 76
^^^ my team in 76
Yeah , that would be a rarity,,,
Most Pats fans I meet can't name the QB before Brady.
Also FYI Patsfans, Buying a Pats hat Doesn't make you Bill Belichick !!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay
Tom Brady has worn Uggs and
Tom Brady has worn Uggs and his TB12 stuff is nauseating. With that said, I love everything he embodies as a leader and athlete. We're watching the best quarterback, coach and tight end ever all playing together on the same team. Pretty heady time to be a Pats fan. Jumped on board when I was 10 years old in '96.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: JP (J Bomb)
The Patriots perfectly embody
The Patriots perfectly embody our income-inequality era and the tax reform that President Trump recently signed. <<<<
Totally, except there is a hard salary cap in the NFL and that their perennial finishes have them drafting at the back end of the draft each year.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay
>>Totally, except there is a
>>Totally, except there is a hard salary cap in the NFL and that their perennial finishes have them drafting at the back end of the draft each year.
Right. I've been hearing quite a few ppl crying about parity in the NFL this week and I think it's entirely off base. So many things have to fall into place for a football operation to be successful and the fact we are on year 18 of this run is absolutely unprecedented. Go cry about parity in the NBA where that argument holds water. The Patriots are where they are today because of their philosophy and management from top to bottom. The NFL is not the NBA and the parity people can go pound sand.
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I have nothing against milk
I have nothing against milk or toast.
GO WARRIORS!