Hey Folks,
Siobud checking in here.
So I have a third interview coming up on 5/4 for what appears to be my dream job. I'm expecting the company to make me an offer when we talk next and I'm feeling really great about them wanting to hire me. Our first two interviews went really well and they are clearly impressed with my knowledge, background and just overall what I have to offer.
As some of you may recall, I got in trouble back in 2011 for DUI and possession of marijuana. I had (incorrectly) thought that these would not show up on a background check as they were ultimately dismissed in court. The charges are as follows:
1. DUI/Drugs Alcohol 1st Offense. DISMISSED
2. Possession of Marijuana 1st Offense. DISMISSED
3, Driving While in Possession of a Controlled Substance. 1st Offense. FILED NOLO Plea
For a little background on the company, it's a small subsidiary of a larger German company who employs only 10 people in the US with the subsidiary company. My interview on 5/4 is with the CFO/Human Resource Manager. That's how small this company is... their CFO is ALSO the HR manager.
Anyway, if they ask for my consent to do a background check, I'm thinking I should just be upfront with them and explain that I did have an incident after college when I was younger and that I've learned a lot about myself and what I want from my personal/professional life since then. Hell, I'm on my 5th year without alcohol and I'd be able to pass a pee test if they asked me to.
I'm also thinking they could not do a background check at all...
Either way, I'm looking for any advice or insight. These people are very interested in hiring me and, honestly, I don't think anyone else is being interviewed for this position... it's just me. I think being honest and up front could actually be beneficial as it shows that I care and am trustworthy.
Thoughts?
*~(Love)~*
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Roy Batty Hoople-Head
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 04:45 pm
Don't tell them...and good
Don't tell them...and good luck!
"Anyway, if they ask for my consent to do a background check"
? I wound think they either do a background check or not, they don't need your consent right.
If they ask I'd give consent, and hope for the best
DUI, Possession, DISMISSED.
I wound think they're looking for theft and violent offenders?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 04:51 pm
>> I wound think they either
>> I wound think they either do a background check or not, they don't need your consent right.
My understanding is that they do need my consent to do a background check on me. I am not 100% positive though.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 04:56 pm
>> I'm also thinking they
>> I'm also thinking they could not do a background check at all...
- Background checks typically go back 7 years.
- They do need your consent.
- You can usually get a free copy of the background check they generated for your employer. Be sure to ask. (You want it to make sure the information they gathered is correct.)
- Don't volunteer anything. Don't lie either.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Tim Wheres My Flashbacks
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 05:00 pm
If he asks, very casually
If he asks, very casually stand up and grab his lapel and smack the fuck out of him screaming "Get out of my shit !!!"
Or say OK and hope for the best.
Your call
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 05:05 pm
We just interviewed someone
We just interviewed someone who way, way overshared:
- Drug and alcohol background, now in recovery
- multiple DUIs, but in the past
- long stint in mental hospital a few years ago
- felony assault and battery 2 years ago, but he leaned his lesson
He said that if he didn't get the job, he'd still like to volunteer. He didn't get the job, nor is he able to volunteer.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 05:10 pm
You've only got under two
You've only got under two weeks to figure out your approach, which will be up to you. You will be the individual that makes the decision.
I would have said 'Go apply for a firearm license and see what happens with the background check' but that might take anywhere between 3-6 weeks.
So you could say nothing at all or tell them "I've never been convicted of any crimes", but I would not advise you to falsify any information, lest they think that you are a Secret Axe-Murderer.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 05:14 pm
Thanks for the input.
Thanks for the input.
Sounds like everyone is leaning towards the don't say anything route.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 05:17 pm
Don't they typically ask if
Don't they typically ask if you've been convicted of a felony? If that NOLO was a felony, and you don't tell them, count yourself done. You can always tell them and explain.
The other two that were dismissed are non entities.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 05:23 pm
>>>Don't they typically ask
>>>Don't they typically ask if you've been convicted of a felony?
So this opportunity kinda landed in my lap as I was personally referred to the company by a family member. I haven't filled out an application to this point at all.
My thoughts are that while speaking with the HR woman for this third interview she MAY ask if they can do a background check. Honestly, I don't know if they even will. Again, just looking for advice.
I subscribe to the whole "Don't offer up additional information" philosophy in various situations but I also DO find merit in just being honest. I have an ability to communicate and read a situation and these people clearly want to bring me in. I do appreciate you all contributing with your input.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 05:24 pm
Jay, regardless of the
Jay, regardless of the outcome here, you will want to file a petition with the Court to have your records sealed so they won't come up on a background check. This is something I'd strongly recommend you hire an attorney for. Shop around for the best price, it's purely procedural and one attorney won't do any better at it than another.
Unfortunately, I've had some great candidates who I knew were stand up people and would be great fits for the company denied employment because of things that came up in background checks.
For a young man like yourself who is obviously getting serious about his career and earning potential, making the investment in a record sealing petition is a smart and very worthwhile investment.
Wishing you well, brother.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 05:25 pm
I'm also thinking that my
I'm also thinking that my last 5 years of work experience is solid and speaks for itself. This is a "high profile" position where I'll be traveling a lot and speaking at various trade shows. The company loves that I travel a lot now and have demonstrated the ability to handle the lifestyle and responsibilities that come along with that whole job arrangement. My THOUGHTS are that they place a lot of value on THIS.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 05:29 pm
Mark,
Mark,
My state requires a 5 year period from the date of the completion of probationary period which would be January of 2018. I will be going through the process then.
So what do you think. Give consent and see what happens or take a chance being the honest boy?
And also FWIW, for my job now, I signed a consent form for a background check and didn't say anything and got hired. I am not sure if they even did one though TBH. Maybe I just answered my question.
I am still confident the job will be mine. It's nice popping in to say Hi to you guys. Been kinda MIA with Daddy-duty and stuff.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 06:33 pm
>>>Drug and alcohol
>>>Drug and alcohol background, now in recovery
- multiple DUIs, but in the past
- long stint in mental hospital a few years ago
- felony assault and battery 2 years ago, but he leaned his lesson<<<
Sounds like a good zoner candidate. Did you invite him over?
Good luck with the job Jay.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: |-|/-\|_|_ Googlymoogly
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 06:40 pm
lol
lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 06:44 pm
The general consensus on here
The general consensus on here is to NOT offer up any information like I was initially thinking would be a good idea. I just talked to a family member who's opinion I value and he said NOOOO. Don't offer anything.
I'll let you guys know how I make out.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 06:46 pm
Good luck, Sio.
Good luck, Sio.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alias botb
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 07:03 pm
If they want to do a
If they want to do a background check it probably won't matter that you've already disclosed your history--they would probably be doing it to check what you said anyway. I don't see the upside of saying "No you can't do a background check" as that's got to be a huge red flag, bigger then your record.
Was that all from one case, or were those separate incidents?
Is the charge you were convicted of, definitely know if it is felony or misdemeanor or other. I would also familiarize yourself with the code section number. My first thought is "Does that include marijuana or are we talking real drugs?"
I'd pay attention to what you are asked. have you ever been convicted of a crime? yes, one, a misdemeanor/felony/other.
Have you ever been arrested? - yes, but have you been arrested one or three times?
If this is all from one case I don't think its important to spell out that you were charged with 3 things and plead to one. If this is three separate events it might get sticky if they ask only about arrests--except that you can say they were dismissed.
Don't lie. Good luck.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 07:05 pm
I liked the guy. He had a PhD
I liked the guy. He had a PhD in literature, and he sounded like William Burroughs. He scared everyone else on the panel.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 07:35 pm
Jay, I have no advice, but am
Jay, I have no advice, but am wishing you the best.
Let us know how it goes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Monday, April 24, 2017 – 08:03 pm
>>>>Don't lie.
>>>>Don't lie.
This. I often do background checks on potential new clients and always ask about their criminal history during the initial consultation. I can usually get past the fact that someone has had run ins with the law, but not lying to me about it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 – 10:12 am
I will keep you all posted~
I will keep you all posted~
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cb shuffle
on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 – 10:35 am
Don't volunteer but if asked
Don't volunteer but if asked be honest.
Good luck, Sio.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sigmund SeaMonster
on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 – 10:38 am
Don't they serve beer in a
Don't they serve beer in a baby bottle to kids over in Germany? Hell im pretty sure the autobon is full of hash smoking alcoholics.
Good luck !
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 – 10:42 am
I just spoke to a German
I just spoke to a German manager, and she said don't offer information, but don't lie when asked.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ________ Heybrochacho
on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 – 10:49 am
A lot of states will remove
A lot of states will remove non felonies after a certain amount of time. Didn't read the whole thread.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond Jonas
on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 – 10:56 am
>I had (incorrectly) thought
>I had (incorrectly) thought that these would not show up on a background check
Not to be a dick but I explained this to you when it happened.
Good luck, hope you get the job.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Highnote Stringtwang
on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 – 10:59 am
My boss lied to me and lost
My boss lied to me and lost my respect.
Good luck J.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Peglet Areukind
on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 – 11:38 am
Don't lie, but don't
Don't lie, but don't overshare.
What Alias, St. Mark, Ken and BrianK. said.
Also, almost every time I thought I had it in the bag, I didn't. Confidence is good. Over-confidence often comes off as cocky and obnoxious.
And you definitely need that motherfucker expunged.
Good luck!!! :). Hope it all turns out just the way you want it to.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bluelight Odysseus
on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 – 11:46 am
My advise is stay away from
My advise is stay away from large European conglomerates with satellite offices here in the US.
(Like ones that have one guy wearing many hats just because they read and write English well)
An American startup is a better option and obviously an American publicly traded company is your safest bet.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 – 12:13 pm
Don't tell them, cross your
Don't tell them, cross your fingers and hope it's not addressed. If it is brought up don't tell them a long ass story about your life and how much you've changed. Just say that you've been in recovery and sober (addiction issues/compassion is big in the American consciousness right now so play off that) since 2011. Short and sweet but make your point.
Hope it works out for you.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 – 04:34 pm
I agree with Junior. Weird.
I agree with Junior. Weird.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 – 04:51 pm
One last thought:
One last thought:
My drivers license, registration and tax information has me living in Massachusetts at a home still owned by a family member. I have a clean record in MA. My record is in Rhode Island. I wonder if IF it comes down to it if I put that as my home address for this purpose if that might bypass whatever. I don't know.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 – 05:06 pm
I'd rather stick to the whole
I'd rather stick to the whole be honest and don't offer up too much approach.
Just spitballin' ideas with my peoples.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: FlutterBy jlp
on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 – 07:56 am
I had a thing in 2011 that I
I had a thing in 2011 that I'm in process of having completely closed, as, in pa, if you don't, it'll follow you forever.
It hasn't lost me any jobs, save one where i could live without it.
Still, if they check, they'll find it. Be honest if they ask.
Great good luck, my sweet friend!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: FlutterBy jlp
on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 – 07:58 am
Expunged! That's the word!!
Expunged! That's the word!!
Thanks, my fave mouthpiece, evah!!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Zzzzzz Zang
on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 – 08:04 am
>>>Don't volunteer but if
>>>Don't volunteer but if asked be honest.
This^^
For what it's worth, a roommate of mine got busted for driving a too fast and (just so happened to be) carrying a lb in his car. Multiple cops, dogs, full shabang shows up for obvious reasons. He calls the city to find out next steps a month later and they have no record of any incident.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond Jonas
on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 – 09:14 am
Big difference in going to
Big difference in going to court after an arrest and cops stealing lbs.
Did your roommate happen to owe someone for the lb before it disappeared?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 – 10:10 am
I'll be 100% honest. I think
I'll be 100% honest. I think anything less than that would come off as desperate; I'm certainly not desperate. I have a decent paying job now as it is... not like I'm in the unemployment line currently.