Legion Of Mary

I assume you're already listening to this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garcia_Live_Volume_Three

Khan's bass playing doesn't do anything for me, not sure what you're hearing. Like a broom smacking against a mattress, as I once read someone put it. That said, "Freedom Jazz Dance" "Mystery Train" "Wondering Why" and the Randy Newman are all top tier Garcia/Saunders. Best playing he ever did outside of the Grateful Dead (maybe including the Grateful Dead).

the batch of LoM (i suppose technically Garcia & Saunders) soundboards that dropped late last year(?) are incredible.

hunt them down

John khan killed Jerry. 

John Khan played bass for Mississippi Fred McDowell so he is all good in my book, but his playing is competent at best (which is probably why McDowell tapped the young Khan to play for him) and distracting at worst.

Some of his solos on "Simple Twist of Fate" are straight-up grating.

I like "Feel Like Dynamite"

"When I get to doin' my thing, I feel like DYNAMITE!!"

Forgot about that one, Siobud. Great call! 

"Going, Going, Gone" is done even slower than the version on Planet Waves. If you can deal with that, they do a blistering version.

Great on the tunes.  Weak on the solos.

Like Phil singing harmony vs. Phil singing lead.

There's a LOM show with a 15 minute Wicked Messenger that Jerry just fucking slays.

Fierro killed a great band.

If I was forced to chose my favorite Jerry Garcia band of all time the Legion of Mary would have to be my answer. ..So much awesome in them shows...knowing how it all worked it, Jerry should have stuck with the Legion and let the Grateful Dead ease into history...sorry I don't have any specific recommendation, just listen to it all. They really can brighten up any day... (((meester)))

John Kahn hits one note in the 3-17-78 MIssion in the Rain that gets me every time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YXqqMCVbts

Second That Emotion on Garcia Collection vol.1 is a hot one. Roadrunner from the 12/14,15/74 release

Kahn also was the bass player on the Bloomfield-Kooper-Stills Super Session.

I liked a lot of his playing.  Mission In The Rain, I Shall Be Released and Midnight Moonlight come to mind.

Khan was actually a great bass player. He was a pocket player that allowed JGB/legion to push those jams over form and keep it structured as opposed to Jerry's style with the dead which was more controlled chaos with Phil playing more like a lead electric guitarist.   Compared to other rock bass players, well there's not really much to compare to. A lot of barely competent bass players in rock and roll that everybody loves

Damn. Richard Thompson is overrated, and John Kahn is a "great" player? Got some serious reevaluations to make about your criticisms, Timpane.

I always enjoyed John Kahn's playing because of what he and Jerry (and the band if there was one, like JGB and Butterfield Blues band) played together, and Richard Thompson doesn't do anything special for me; he's good, but doesn't grab me.

Isn't what moves you what it's all about?

there's so much good garcia/kahn. too much to even point out, but kahn was a beast. that's all i got. LoM, the duo, jgb. it's  timeless. amazing stuff they produced. 

1979/12/21 positively 4th st, so good. kahn all over the place, pushing jerry to unchartered waters. 

anyway, legion is the shit! had on some of the tiny ny/boston run they did fall 1974. good shit. some awesome jams. the going going gones they haven't really figured out yet-funny to hear jerry do it even slower than slow, guy had such a voice tho. perfect for that tune imo, and when he nailed that song, stellar. great example of jerry's range. he made that song his own, and delivered. 

Sounds like you haven't really listened to much LOM, Ateix. Personally, I've just haven't liked anything I heard from Thompson besides hisnacoustic playing. Never said he was a terrible musician. I just don't like him. I feel like the only people who really do are older white guys. I'm aware you don't fit that description but you know it's true. Anyways, those discussions were funny because Timmy doesn't have the musical intelligence about music theory or really know that much about the history of music to old an intelligent conversation about it. Anyways, seems like you haven't really made any educated assumptions about Khans bass playing either.

>>>>>Kahn also was the bass player on the Bloomfield-Kooper-Stills Super Session.

No, he wasn't. That was Harvey Brooks.

John khan killed Jerry.<<<<<<<<<

yeah right- he had been playing with him since 72

and Khan played on the live Super Session at FW in 68.  Harvey in the studio for that CLASSIC album.

I've maybe listened to more Legion of Mary than I have Grateful Dead. No amount of listening is going to improve John Kahn's tone.

Didn't say you called RT a terrible player, Timpane.

Nope. I said I thought his playing was overrated. I said his riffs on electric guitar can be sloppy at times and he sings out of key as well. I like his acoustic playing

I do think his Britney Spears cover is absolutely abysmal.