Las Vegas Raiders

BOOOOOOOOOO

the NFL can go fuck itself.

Mark Davis selling the Oakland fanbase down the river, just like his old man did back in the day.

Shameful.

I'm very confident that Mark Davis's hair style is a troll.

Bummer 

the NFL can go fuck itself.<<<<<<<

agreed - I'm sick of it. But the Raiders will do good in Vegas- and plenty of Oakland fans will make the trip for their home games.

Disgraceful. 

every nfl game you watch is another piece of your own death.

Do people actually still kid themselves that pro sports franchises are loyal to anything but $$?   Las Vegas Raider's team jackets will be on backorder by summer time.

>> Do people actually still kid themselves that pro sports franchises are loyal to anything but $$?

Oakland wasn't loyal to the Raiders, either. Open up those pocketbooks cheapskates:

I only follow the NBA.  Could care less about the NFL and it's mouth breathing fans.

We cut the cable last season, and I tried to give up football cold turkey after 40+years.

Then the Raiders started winning.  Damn it!  I got sucked back in.  Now this!  Raider Nation is squirming, but it's done so....bring on the sequined jerseys.

Pro sports are just another distraction.

Who wants another hot dog?

Ender makes a point.

They were tarping off large sections of the Oakland Coliseum for years while the Raiders were on their historic run of consecutive losing seasons.

As a lifelong Raider fan and season ticket holder I can guarantee that I will NEVER attend a Raider game in Las Vegas and will not visit that city for any purpose!!

>> I only follow the NBA.  Could care less about the NFL and it's mouth breathing fans.

LOL, you are such a POS bandwagon fan.

When Seattle won the superbowl, you went on and on about how you had been a fan since childhood. 

nba has been shit since 93

JR, it's good to know you could care even less than you do now.

These are serious accusations, JR.

What is your response?

Uh oh....shots fired. not a very good decision ender.  At lunch will be back later to respond. 

Right on, Ron.

Cheerleaders - Check. 

Raiders fan here. How could you not see this coming? The Coliseum is a pit, and there's no public or private money in the east bay to change that. They were going someplace, and I can't blame them.

I've always thought it was kind of poetic and supremely appropriate that the Raiders played in that festering shithole.

Men don't mind it. 

we like the big long urinal troughs too.

Socialism for the rich Raiders but not the rest of us. A hotel tax so all Las Vegas gamblers staying overnight will be paying for the Raiders!

Viva Fuck Raiders!

are there people who just day trip to vegas?? i always figured that overnight was mandatory....

Isn't it like an 8 hour drive from Oakland to Vegas?

That's a lot of miles to traverse in an El Camino with those tiny chrome rims.

I really don’t understand why a billionaire club running a very profitable cartel needs public money.

The NFL has its top stars that stick around but the majority of the team is made up of a revolving door of young kids that don’t last more than three years. It will be interesting to see how they do in Vegas. So many places to get in trouble 24/7/365.

This is going to be an insanely profitable team. Even if the locals don’t support them. Next year you have the Ravens, Patriots, Chiefs, Cowboys, Giants, Jets, Broncos playing at Oakland. You really don’t think those fan bases don’t want to see their teams play in Vegas.

Now there will finally be something to do in Las Vegas 

I've seen more Raiders gear, car flags, etc than I have in 10 years.  I really do hope that they manage to get a SB win in Oakland before they leave (unless they are playing a team I like better).

Next question.....what happens to the A's?

With only the A's on that property, it will be sold to a developer for commuter condos starting in the low nine hundreds. 

2DankDan must be crushed.

Really hoping Brady and Belichick are the first to get caught up in Hookergate.

Maybe they can tear the Coliseum down once the Raiders are gone, and build a retro style baseball stadium for the A's?  Lacking that, Oakland will lose them too, either to San Jose, Vegas or Vancouver, B.C.

>>>"2DankDan must be crushed."<<<

Oaklands Broke. They lost the Warriors to Frisco.. Now Da Raiders to Lost Wages.... A's who knows...

Oakland will be paying for the Warriors building until 2024 & Da Raiders Mt.Davis until 2026.

The Oakland Coliseum is a dump, it's been falling apart for years. Once Candlestick was demo'd it became the worst stadium in the NFL until the LA Lambs started playing in the LA Coliseum last season.

It least we will still have them until 2019 maybe 2020. I'll still go to any games I can make.

So I see a lot of Raider Fans pissed that we're moving to Lost Wages.
I feel blessed to have had them back at all. When they came back I was in total shock!
I'm GRATEFUL for the time I got to see them. Being a PSL holder in the late 90's... in the Black Hole with my brother, getting to go to 2 Championship games.
I'm sad to see they're leaving again. But I'm truly thankful for the all the games I got to attend!!
Win, Lose or Tie, Raiders until I die!!!

The A's are staying in Oakland. Probably at the same site after they tear down both the stadium & arena and build a new baseball stadium and commercial community around it.

The city knew they couldn't keep both the A's and Raiders, and especially after the A's were blocked from moving to San Jose the Raiders leaving was pretty much a forgone conclusion; the question wasn't if they would move, it was where. Baseball stadiums are good business, football stadiums not always so much, especially in a crowded market.

Plus, as rabid as Raiders fans are, they didn't buy PSL's and luxury boxes when the team came back from LA which screwed the city big-time, and the team couldn't sell out their stadium at all until they closed off 20% of it and dropped ticket prices to 1980s levels.

Even with the recent quality rise of the team it's hard to imagine they would have been able to sell out a full stadium with five-figure PSL's and many tickets in the $150 - $250 range per game.

It's sad for Oakland fans, but no one should be surprised.

The weird thing is going to be their lame duck status for at least two and maybe three more years in Oakland. There's gonna' be weird vibes in that place going forward, but as long as they keep the prices low and the tarp up (and they keep winning) I expect the place to stay full and edgier than ever.

But I bet Mark Davis isn't going to be very visible at home games in Oakland. In fact I imagine he won't be seen much in the Bay Area at all any more. Raiders fans love a good enemy, and now they have a new enemy #1. 

He won't care though. He was always going to be a small-timer in the BA. I'm sure he's already dreaming about being the top dog in Las Vegas.

Dude's a freak, just like his dad.

So it goes...........love to have the moving contract for the Raiders for the past couple? decades.

((((((((((( Showgirl Cheerleaders ))))))))))      ((((((((( Elvis Stadium Music ))))))))

>>>>I really don’t understand why a billionaire club running a very profitable cartel needs public money.

I think it's in their standard "business model" due to the increased revenue to the community.

And of course to maintain their "lofty" status.

I'm sure in their mentality it has something to do with balancing the risk.

It's really a bit lame. If you can't DIY, maybe you should be doing it.

>>>>Dude's a freak, just like his dad.

Isn't that what make the Raiders so lovable!

Him and Jerry Jones should do a UFC Battle of the Freaks.

>>>>Really hoping Brady and Belichick are the first to get caught up in Hookergate.

Do tell.

As a lifelong Easty Raiders fan I can say I am excited for the next few years in Vegas. Cheap flights and Hotels, all the visiting teams will be too hung over to play, I think it works. Only the Raiders could have pulled this off. As far as the Hard Core Blackholers in the Bay Area, I feel for ya, but don't dismay....They'll Be BACK!! 

They'll be back? 

Do you mean they've already dumped Vegas? 

And while you mentioned the abundance of cheap flight and hotels, you forgot about the $2 steak and lobster dinner at the Sands. You have one of those dinners, get a bunch of free drinks then go check out Sammy and Dean. 

 >>>>>then go check out Sammy and Dean.

They're planted in LA. 

The days of cheap food and abundant free drinks is basically over in Las Vegas.

It's a food & beverage town now.

average cost of a glass on wine (2 ounces?) at any casino/restaurant  on the strip......$16

you forgot about the $2 steak and lobster dinner at the Sands.<<<<<<

40 years ago

Im pretty sure Bucky was being sarcastic -- hence the Sammy & Dean throw in.

Coo Coo, Cooku catchu...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcgGar7iDHU

The Raiders should be forced to leave their name in Oakland and become the Vegas Carpetbaggers. The atmosphere in Vegas will be nothing like a home game in Oakland where it is intimidating for the visitors. Davis will bankrupt the team in Vegas as he will be unable to make the $50 million per year interest payments on his debt and the NFL will then award the team to one of their "kind" for several billion $. The rich get richer and the Vegas suckers will have a $2 billion albatross on the strip. Serves them right!

Lunch $50 for 2.

Dinner $100 for 2.

We don't even drink.

I don't like Vegas. Went to Phil show there, I think it was the first at LVBB.   Some dude was full on rolling around on the floor making out with his dog, German Shepherd like dog. I mean hard core tongue kissing. A zoner saw it and posted a picture of the "couple"  Saw him a day later in the casino he was sitting at a slot with his dog in the seat next to him.  Vegas wooks ae the worst.  Place gives me the fuckin willies.

Wow, in shocking news, a professional sports team owner comes out and says that it's STUPID for the US taxpayers to fork over $750 million dollars, no strings attached, to a multi-billion dollar organization so it can build a new stadium for them. Boy are we dumb.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/30/oakland-raiders-las-vegas-...

Foley questioned whether using public money was wise. He told the radio show Vegas Hockey Hotline: “I felt like there were a lot better ways to spend $750m than bringing the Raiders to Las Vegas. We could spend it on police, firefighters and teachers and have them all be the best in the country. But I guess we’re going to spend it on the Raiders …"

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probably so- but maybe he forgets the additional revenues and tax dollars that will come in by the truckload when the Raiders play at home.

not just Raider fans but NFL fans from all over the country will flock to Vegas to see their teams play the Raiders and blow buku bucks at the hotels/ casinos & restaurants...getting face down in the gutter shithoused in the process. Huge increase in profits  on Sunday getaway days at the hotels as well. Most will fly out on Mondays now with royal hangovers.

Las Vegas draws hundreds of thousands of people to town for events like the EDM festival, CES conference, AVN conference, multiple rodeo events that all take place at locations that already exist. Literally HUNDREDS of thousands of people come to Las Vegas for these events and these events have been taking place for years.

i reject the notion that 8 games a year of 80,000 attendance plus a super bowl every ten years is going to do much for the local economy. The other events didn't need to lay out 750 million to bring those people in either. The idea that Las Vegas NEEDS an event or team to bring in people to visit is crazy. 

The people coming from out of town will be a drop in the bucket.

Ok do a little (estimated) math:

say....35,000 out of towners on average come in for 8 games a year

They spend , on average....$800 each(lowball) for hotel/food/drinks/game tix/parking/uber/GAMBLING/etc.....

So for the season, maybe 280,000 come in for the Raiders....that would  be a rough estimate of...$224 million???

That ain't no drop in anybody's bucket.

Right but who is that money going to? The taxpayers? 

Using OUR taxpayer money to build a facility for a business that makes billions of dollars in profit is pretty dumb 

The cities of St. Louis and Oakland still owe tens of millions of dollars for building the football stadiums for teams that have left or are leaving. San Diego just told their team to take a hike because they didn't want to hand over free money to the d-bag billionaire who owns the Chargers.

Clark County, Nevada, had their school district increase the size of classes in order to save $14 million dollars, but it's OK to GIVE the NFL $750 million. 

Yeah, go raiders. What a bunch of suckers we are. Hopefully this is the last stadium built with OUR MONEY.

pro football is dead.

>pro football is dead

According to who?

>> According to who?

San Diego Charger fans.

That makes sense. If I were a chargers or raiders fan I'd cut my losses too.

That being said, I remain a lifetime NY Jets fan. Selling the team and replacing the whole organization is the only possible way to make the Jets a winning team. 

look....football is/was my favorite sport.

if anyone has been watching, the product is in serious disrepair.

its almost un-watchable on TV.

the flow is completely gone. tv time outs. time outs. official review. new stadiums. luxury boxes. lack of decent qb's.

commissioner is a joke.

games unaffordable for the avg fan.

you guys can keep keeping the billionaires wealthy though.

troll

Mark Davis is borrowing $1 billion from Bank America and to pay the league fees to relocate. So his interest payments will be around $50 million/year which he can't begin to pay for. The league owners know this and since Davis has never been part of their rich guy social scene they will wait for the Raiders to default on their loans. Then they will resell the team to the highest bidder who of course will be a fellow fat cat and put large $$$ in all their pockets. Mark the neanderthal is so over his head it's astonishing. And the band plays on!