Thank you stu, I can buy into that ... although it's always dry where I'm at, so I don't notice it so much ... except my knuckles dryout -> crack and bleed moreso in the winter.
It depends on the time of the day. We have thermostats that are programmable and are set to 71 for a couple hours each day when we are all home, down to 67 for most of the day. No AC, no settings there...Open the Windows and turn on the fans if its too hot, but that is not common in VT for me
We keep the central heating system at a default setting of 60, since we have some orchids and fish that don't like it any cooler. No AC. When I get up at 6 AM I turn it up to 70 if the house is between 60 and 70, unless it's going to be a hot day. At some point we turn it back to 60. When/if it gets chilly in the PM we usually start a fire.
When I get up at 6 AM I turn it up to 70 if the house is between 60 and 70, unless it's going to be a hot day. At some point we turn it back to 60. When/if it gets chilly in the PM we usually start a fire. <<<
I essentially do the same thing, although 65 is the set point for the thermostat ... and will bump it up to 67 if it's going to be cold / cloudy. Since I have excellent southern exposure for windows that recoups great solar gain, it only takes a little bit of work for heating system to give house a "push". Likewise with the "continued push" of a fire in the afternoon evening.
But wasn't really referring to this sort of flux in my original post, was curious about those who generally target a different number in the winter vs. summer.
I am saving up for the Rolls-Royce of Wood-burning furnace, the Kuuma Vapor-Fire. It's about the most efficient appliance in its genre; 20-24 hour burn time before reloading the burn chamber.
Some Finnish dudes in Minnesota make them all by hand.
They are expen$ive, but compliant with the latest EPA particulate regs. I already have forced-air ducting and an old oil-burner.
200 gallons of fuel oil @ 2 bucks per gallon lasts less than 1 month. So if we say $400 per month with November through March (5 cold months) that's $2000 per year in fuel costs. That's a conservative estimate.
Firewood costs about $225 per Cord for the Good Stuff, but I sell it, and have a lifetime supply here on the farm. So 30 Cords of sales would cover the furnace cost + shipping. (About $6000 total)
I can produce enough Firewood in a week for a 6 cord heating season, so the expense of fuel is negligible.
Anyway, I don't have any affiliation with that company, and I think their website is a bit awkward to navigate. But If you're in a place with lots of Firewood, it might appeal to you.
>> But wasn't really referring to this sort of flux in my original post, was curious about those who generally target a different number in the winter vs. summer. <<
What did you not understand about most people wear more/less clothes seasonally?
To me, with my forced air heat (i.e., shitty heat), you have to change the temp often. 66 is fine if it's 20 out. I gotta go to 70 to get the chill out if it's 45 or 50 out. Radiators are better because they work quite well for a while when "off."
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on Friday, March 9, 2018 – 03:38 pm
https://www.vivalazone.org
https://www.vivalazone.org/other-stuff/open-board-1
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Friday, March 9, 2018 – 03:40 pm
I'm OK with anything over 45
I'm OK with anything over 45 F in Winter, but prefer under 80 F in Summer. I can always grab another blanket, but I can't shed layers of skin.
So July - August my A/C runs a lot and the electric bill goes up.
Also the Dog likes cool temperatures, so he doesn't enjoy the warm muggy Summer days.
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on Friday, March 9, 2018 – 03:40 pm
Set in to 73°f in winter. 80
Set in to 73°f in winter. 80°f in summer.
Comfort
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on Friday, March 9, 2018 – 03:48 pm
But doesn't 73 = 73 and 80 =
But doesn't 73 = 73 and 80 = 80, regardless of the season?
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on Friday, March 9, 2018 – 03:48 pm
Heater(propane) stays at 55
Heater(propane) stays at 55 most of the winter. Wood stove and portable electrics fill in.
AC stays at 80 in summer. Ceiling fans in every room take care of the rest.
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on Friday, March 9, 2018 – 03:53 pm
It's always for comfort.
It's always for comfort.
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on Friday, March 9, 2018 – 03:55 pm
Yes, I am comfortable with a
Yes, I am comfortable with a temp range of 73°f-95°f. My wife routinely tunrs the thermostat down to 75°f in summer.
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on Friday, March 9, 2018 – 04:06 pm
Disco Stu, you have a dog?
Disco Stu, you have a dog?
Pray tell...
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on Friday, March 9, 2018 – 04:08 pm
66.6
66.6
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Sunday, March 11, 2018 – 12:39 pm
Yeah,
Yeah,
Mr. "Hello My Name Is Jackohearts" --
It's a well-kept secret, but I have a Hüsky Sled-Dawg, and he is in Good shape.
He really likes Cool temperatures, and enjoys the Snow.
Here's a foto of H.I.M. ::
He lieks long walks on the Beach, Bunny Wabbits, Steak, Bacon, and running North to Yukon.
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on Sunday, March 11, 2018 – 01:25 pm
and running North to Yukon<<<
and running North to Yukon<<<
Episodes of "challenge of the yukon" (later to be "Sgt. Preston of the Yukon") can be listened to on the old time radio player app (free)
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on Sunday, March 11, 2018 – 01:26 pm
I STILL don't get some don't
I STILL don't get some don't set to the same temp in winter vs. summer (assuming $ is not an issue)?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Sunday, March 11, 2018 – 01:34 pm
Mr. Face --
Mr. Face --
Even if we are all Filthy Rich in $$, Time, Firewood,
Relative Humidity is a big factor. (RH)
When it's 75 degrees F in Winter, RH is low.
75 in muggy Summer, 80% RH and it's uncomfortable. Feels warmer, so you want A/C and dehumidifiers.
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on Sunday, March 11, 2018 – 01:44 pm
Thank you stu, I can buy into
Thank you stu, I can buy into that ... although it's always dry where I'm at, so I don't notice it so much ... except my knuckles dryout -> crack and bleed moreso in the winter.
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on Sunday, March 11, 2018 – 02:15 pm
>> I STILL don't get some don
>> I STILL don't get some don't set to the same temp in winter vs. summer (assuming $ is not an issue)?
What do you wear on a typical winter day versus summer day? Think this through....
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on Sunday, March 11, 2018 – 03:15 pm
More "layers" ... although
More "layers" ... although still not sure where you were going with this?
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on Sunday, March 11, 2018 – 10:25 pm
It depends on the time of the
It depends on the time of the day. We have thermostats that are programmable and are set to 71 for a couple hours each day when we are all home, down to 67 for most of the day. No AC, no settings there...Open the Windows and turn on the fans if its too hot, but that is not common in VT for me
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on Sunday, March 11, 2018 – 11:43 pm
We keep the central heating
We keep the central heating system at a default setting of 60, since we have some orchids and fish that don't like it any cooler. No AC. When I get up at 6 AM I turn it up to 70 if the house is between 60 and 70, unless it's going to be a hot day. At some point we turn it back to 60. When/if it gets chilly in the PM we usually start a fire.
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on Monday, March 12, 2018 – 10:16 am
Turned on the heater 8 years
Turned on the heater 8 years ago.
A/C set at 75 daytime and 68 at night
I call it sitting on the good side of the a/c
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on Monday, March 12, 2018 – 10:49 am
When I get up at 6 AM I turn
When I get up at 6 AM I turn it up to 70 if the house is between 60 and 70, unless it's going to be a hot day. At some point we turn it back to 60. When/if it gets chilly in the PM we usually start a fire. <<<
I essentially do the same thing, although 65 is the set point for the thermostat ... and will bump it up to 67 if it's going to be cold / cloudy. Since I have excellent southern exposure for windows that recoups great solar gain, it only takes a little bit of work for heating system to give house a "push". Likewise with the "continued push" of a fire in the afternoon evening.
But wasn't really referring to this sort of flux in my original post, was curious about those who generally target a different number in the winter vs. summer.
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on Monday, March 12, 2018 – 10:53 am
"Stay seventy-two come shine
"Stay seventy-two come shine or rain." - Garcia/Hunter
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on Monday, March 12, 2018 – 11:09 am
It's always 55 in mom's
It's always 55 in mom's basemet
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Monday, March 12, 2018 – 11:43 am
I am saving up for the Rolls
I am saving up for the Rolls-Royce of Wood-burning furnace, the Kuuma Vapor-Fire. It's about the most efficient appliance in its genre; 20-24 hour burn time before reloading the burn chamber.
Some Finnish dudes in Minnesota make them all by hand.
https://www.lamppakuuma.com/vapor-fire-100/
They are expen$ive, but compliant with the latest EPA particulate regs. I already have forced-air ducting and an old oil-burner.
200 gallons of fuel oil @ 2 bucks per gallon lasts less than 1 month. So if we say $400 per month with November through March (5 cold months) that's $2000 per year in fuel costs. That's a conservative estimate.
Firewood costs about $225 per Cord for the Good Stuff, but I sell it, and have a lifetime supply here on the farm. So 30 Cords of sales would cover the furnace cost + shipping. (About $6000 total)
I can produce enough Firewood in a week for a 6 cord heating season, so the expense of fuel is negligible.
Anyway, I don't have any affiliation with that company, and I think their website is a bit awkward to navigate. But If you're in a place with lots of Firewood, it might appeal to you.
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on Monday, March 12, 2018 – 11:52 am
>> But wasn't really
>> But wasn't really referring to this sort of flux in my original post, was curious about those who generally target a different number in the winter vs. summer. <<
What did you not understand about most people wear more/less clothes seasonally?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Monday, March 12, 2018 – 01:46 pm
Is it not customary for
Is it not customary for people to take their coats once inside?
Likewise, isn't keeping additional layers on while inside ultimately something done for "economic reasons"?
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on Monday, March 12, 2018 – 01:49 pm
I think the answer is long
I think the answer is long underwear.
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on Monday, March 12, 2018 – 02:05 pm
To me, with my forced air
To me, with my forced air heat (i.e., shitty heat), you have to change the temp often. 66 is fine if it's 20 out. I gotta go to 70 to get the chill out if it's 45 or 50 out. Radiators are better because they work quite well for a while when "off."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Monday, March 12, 2018 – 02:48 pm
In winter I'm wearing pants,
In winter I'm wearing pants, socks, shoes.
In summer I'm wearing shorts, short-sleave shirt and flip flops.
It seems natural to keep the house warmer when I'm wearing less clothes.
I hope you can read this, understand this, and not try to twist this into something it isn't. It really is quite simple.
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on Monday, March 12, 2018 – 03:16 pm
The real question is what
The real question is what kind of clothes do you wear on an airplane?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Monday, March 12, 2018 – 03:35 pm
I hope you can read this,
I hope you can read this, understand this, and not try to twist this into something it isn't. It really is quite simple.<<<
Quite simple? I don't even know where to begin with the tone of your "statement".
Do you automatically put on pants, socks, and shoes in the winter ... even if you have no plans for ever leaving your home?