I moved out of southern Cal 40 years ago for Oregon... suppose it would be cool to be able to see world class entertainment / food on any given day again, but the only thing I really miss is Tony's Pizza on Huntington drive (by San Marino High School)
Wow I just read this today and then come hear and to see it again what are the odds.
Sometimes Republicans cite misleading statistics to make California look bad—yes, it has the “most debt” and the “most families on welfare,” because it has the most people
It's from a great article on Politico. Trumps War on California.
But while the problem of unaffordable housing is a real drag on growth, and a real threat to the social and economic mobility that drives the California dream, it’s the kind of problem that only desirable places have. There’s plenty of affordable housing in Siberia. “We attract people that places like Mississippi can’t,”
The president tweets on a platform created in California. It’s somewhat odd to portray the state that created health clubs, blue jeans, Pandora and Hulu as Venezuela in the making.
California is now the world’s fifth-largest economy, up from eighth a decade ago. If it’s a socialist hellhole, it’s a socialist hellhole that somehow nurtured Apple, Google, Facebook, Tesla, Uber, Netflix, Oracle and Intel, not to mention old-economy stalwarts like Chevron, Disney, Wells Fargo and the Hollywood film industry. California firms still attract more venture capital than the rest of the country combined, while its farms produce more fruits, nuts and wine than the rest of the country combined. During the Great Recession, when the state was mired in a budget crisis so brutal its bond rating approached junk and it gave IOUs to government workers, mainstream media outlets were proclaiming the death of the California dream. But after a decade of steady growth that has consistently outpaced the nation’s, plus a significant tax hike on the wealthy, California is in much sounder fiscal shape; while federal deficits are soaring again, the state has erased its red ink and even stashed $13 billion in a rainy day fund.
>>I would love to live in that area if it wasn’t for the people.
This doesn't really makes sense, for what would that place (or any place) be without the people? Maybe try a yurt in the desert or up in some lonely hills somewhere instead? Personally, I like people who can own/run shops, grow and cook food, make wine/beer, etc, etc to be part of my community. CA is really, really good like that if you poke around.
Of course, that's just my opinion, and opinions are like assholes.
^I'd live in Marin County, if the home was affordable, close to my work, near good middle and high schools (based on kids' current ages), and had convenient grocery shopping.
It's generally a beautiful area and I bet that there are more than a few friendly/kind people to be found (IMHO, every community has it's fair share of kindness and assholery)
I just sent a letter to Newsom giving him my take on the housing crisis. I love the state (14 years plus 5 from my last stint) but it is shameful how many people have been left behind. I live in a city that is falling over itself to build housing that is affordable only to people escaping the Bay Area. They are ripping out neighborhood institutions to build McYoga studios and frou frou boutiques. In the meantime, all the forms of cheap and easily accessible housing (motels, trailer parks, cheap rentals) are drying up. Criminal justice reform keeps a lot of people out of prison, but we haven't done anything to make room for them to live somewhere. I work with people who are in the business of helping homeless people but there is only so much you can do when there is no housing. It's like a wall. Hard to pull yourself up by your bootstraps when the leap from a tent to an apartment is the size of an ocean. I have come to realize that Californians are comfortable living around people who have no place to take a crap because they themselves do not give one. No judgment, but also not enough compassion. Cities are busy courting tech jobs, not to give jobs to locals, but to attract the moneyed tech class. The answer to the housing problem is always to build more market rate housing. At it's best, trickle down housing is a looooong term solution, since it takes a while for that to translate into low income housing. But in reality, "market rate housing" sits vacant after being bought by people from Berkeley who are so tickled at how cheap it is to buy a hovel among the plebes that they buy it as a future retirement home, or they move here because they want to have a kid and its so cheap but they still drive to "The Bay" every weekend for sushi.
I know these problems are repeated all over the nation and my list of places I am pissed off at is kind of long at present, but since I am here now I have to admit, I am ashamed of California. Because we CAN do better, being rich and all. And we claim to be smart and compassionate, so unlike my dumbass home state, we know better. We know better but we just don't fucking care. It ain't right. In fact, it's actually kind of gross.
California has the 5th biggest economy in the world. That makes them important to everybody.
“We have the entrepreneurial spirit in the state, and that attracts a lot of talent and money,” said Sung Won Sohn, an economics professor at California State University Channel Islands. “And that’s why, despite high taxes and cumbersome government regulations, more people are coming into the state to join the parade.”
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Wednesday, February 20, 2019 – 08:39 pm
I think BK should visit you
I think BK should visit you and 6ravy so you guys can teach him how to surf.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Wednesday, February 20, 2019 – 09:43 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Wednesday, February 20, 2019 – 10:04 pm
I'll be in Sequioa National
I'll be in Sequioa National Park and Death Valley end of March and Sacramento in April.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Wednesday, February 20, 2019 – 10:21 pm
I moved out of southern Cal
I moved out of southern Cal 40 years ago for Oregon... suppose it would be cool to be able to see world class entertainment / food on any given day again, but the only thing I really miss is Tony's Pizza on Huntington drive (by San Marino High School)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, February 20, 2019 – 10:37 pm
Brian K, where are you?
Brian K, where are you?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: hooper Hooper
on Wednesday, February 20, 2019 – 10:55 pm
People never learn, do they??
People never learn, do they??????
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Wednesday, February 20, 2019 – 11:26 pm
So what was good, what was
So what was good, what was bad and what was ugly?
Just have to ask.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius Thom2
on Thursday, February 21, 2019 – 03:22 pm
The Ugly
The Ugly
California’s poverty rate is still the highest in the nation, despite state efforts
Read more here: https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/article218270905.h...
Years of Democrats running things prove that elections do in fact have consequences.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Thursday, February 21, 2019 – 03:36 pm
Poverty rate is high due to
Poverty rate is high due to the unsustainable greed in real estate.
We also just climbed out of the huge defecit your dumb ass republican Arnie dug us. You know that, right???
Stop knee jerking everything with stupid links. Nobody clicks on them. Surprised you did the sac bee...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Thursday, February 21, 2019 – 03:45 pm
lol
lol
Delaware Is The Worst State
https://www.schwartzandschwartz.com/delaware-worst-state/
https://www.delawareonline.com/story/entertainment/2018/05/15/wallethub-...
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2019/01/05/delaware-ranked-one-of-wors...
Delaware has the most uninformed research librarians
https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/local/2016/12/01/breakdown-dis...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Thursday, February 21, 2019 – 03:55 pm
Wow I just read this today
Wow I just read this today and then come hear and to see it again what are the odds.
Sometimes Republicans cite misleading statistics to make California look bad—yes, it has the “most debt” and the “most families on welfare,” because it has the most people
It's from a great article on Politico. Trumps War on California.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/02/21/trump-california-atta...
Some other good excerpts:
But while the problem of unaffordable housing is a real drag on growth, and a real threat to the social and economic mobility that drives the California dream, it’s the kind of problem that only desirable places have. There’s plenty of affordable housing in Siberia. “We attract people that places like Mississippi can’t,”
The president tweets on a platform created in California. It’s somewhat odd to portray the state that created health clubs, blue jeans, Pandora and Hulu as Venezuela in the making.
California is now the world’s fifth-largest economy, up from eighth a decade ago. If it’s a socialist hellhole, it’s a socialist hellhole that somehow nurtured Apple, Google, Facebook, Tesla, Uber, Netflix, Oracle and Intel, not to mention old-economy stalwarts like Chevron, Disney, Wells Fargo and the Hollywood film industry. California firms still attract more venture capital than the rest of the country combined, while its farms produce more fruits, nuts and wine than the rest of the country combined. During the Great Recession, when the state was mired in a budget crisis so brutal its bond rating approached junk and it gave IOUs to government workers, mainstream media outlets were proclaiming the death of the California dream. But after a decade of steady growth that has consistently outpaced the nation’s, plus a significant tax hike on the wealthy, California is in much sounder fiscal shape; while federal deficits are soaring again, the state has erased its red ink and even stashed $13 billion in a rainy day fund.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Thursday, February 21, 2019 – 04:17 pm
That ought to pay for Slacker
That ought to pay for Slacker's home.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Thursday, February 21, 2019 – 04:44 pm
>>>Try being informed instead
>>>Try being informed instead of just opinionated<<<
Most people with opinions believe they are informed.
But almost none of us really are.
"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool"
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Thursday, February 21, 2019 – 04:51 pm
hey thom, here's a link for
hey thom, here's a link for you.
the corporate welfare problem
https://theconversation.com/why-cities-should-stop-playing-amazons-game-...?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Friday, February 22, 2019 – 12:00 pm
Born and raised in California
Born and raised in California.
Lived in Glasgow for 6 months and Chicago for one year.
Otherwise, it's been all Golden State for me.
My opinionated self is very proud and happy to be a Californian, despite the good, bad, and ugly stuff.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, February 22, 2019 – 12:09 pm
Opinionated Californian>>>>>
Opinionated Californian>>>>>
Are you a millionaire or billionaire? You’d fit right in in Marin. I would love to live in that area if it wasn’t for the people.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GravyTrain Gravytrain
on Friday, February 22, 2019 – 12:15 pm
>>I would love to live in
>>I would love to live in that area if it wasn’t for the people.
This doesn't really makes sense, for what would that place (or any place) be without the people? Maybe try a yurt in the desert or up in some lonely hills somewhere instead? Personally, I like people who can own/run shops, grow and cook food, make wine/beer, etc, etc to be part of my community. CA is really, really good like that if you poke around.
Of course, that's just my opinion, and opinions are like assholes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Friday, February 22, 2019 – 12:17 pm
^I'd live in Marin County, if
^I'd live in Marin County, if the home was affordable, close to my work, near good middle and high schools (based on kids' current ages), and had convenient grocery shopping.
It's generally a beautiful area and I bet that there are more than a few friendly/kind people to be found (IMHO, every community has it's fair share of kindness and assholery)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Friday, February 22, 2019 – 12:38 pm
https://www.latimes.com
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-marin-county-housing-cut-201...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alias botb
on Friday, February 22, 2019 – 12:43 pm
I just sent a letter to
I just sent a letter to Newsom giving him my take on the housing crisis. I love the state (14 years plus 5 from my last stint) but it is shameful how many people have been left behind. I live in a city that is falling over itself to build housing that is affordable only to people escaping the Bay Area. They are ripping out neighborhood institutions to build McYoga studios and frou frou boutiques. In the meantime, all the forms of cheap and easily accessible housing (motels, trailer parks, cheap rentals) are drying up. Criminal justice reform keeps a lot of people out of prison, but we haven't done anything to make room for them to live somewhere. I work with people who are in the business of helping homeless people but there is only so much you can do when there is no housing. It's like a wall. Hard to pull yourself up by your bootstraps when the leap from a tent to an apartment is the size of an ocean. I have come to realize that Californians are comfortable living around people who have no place to take a crap because they themselves do not give one. No judgment, but also not enough compassion. Cities are busy courting tech jobs, not to give jobs to locals, but to attract the moneyed tech class. The answer to the housing problem is always to build more market rate housing. At it's best, trickle down housing is a looooong term solution, since it takes a while for that to translate into low income housing. But in reality, "market rate housing" sits vacant after being bought by people from Berkeley who are so tickled at how cheap it is to buy a hovel among the plebes that they buy it as a future retirement home, or they move here because they want to have a kid and its so cheap but they still drive to "The Bay" every weekend for sushi.
I know these problems are repeated all over the nation and my list of places I am pissed off at is kind of long at present, but since I am here now I have to admit, I am ashamed of California. Because we CAN do better, being rich and all. And we claim to be smart and compassionate, so unlike my dumbass home state, we know better. We know better but we just don't fucking care. It ain't right. In fact, it's actually kind of gross.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fly Fly
on Friday, February 22, 2019 – 01:47 pm
California has the 5th
California has the 5th biggest economy in the world. That makes them important to everybody.
“We have the entrepreneurial spirit in the state, and that attracts a lot of talent and money,” said Sung Won Sohn, an economics professor at California State University Channel Islands. “And that’s why, despite high taxes and cumbersome government regulations, more people are coming into the state to join the parade.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/05/05/california-now...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, February 22, 2019 – 01:59 pm
Stain, you live in Marin?
Stain, you live in Marin?