How is each state doing with CV19

That data is stale. California (13 deaths reported above) passed 500 deaths as of yesterday.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/08/coronavirus-covid-19-death-toll-s...

Over 400 cases in my town. 2,641 cases with 85 deaths in my county. 

....."per million (in) population". Decent statistical comparison.

> per million (in) population"

Whoops. I missed that. Seems like a strange way to present the data though.

For better accuracy, there probably should be some decimals in there...but still very sadly way too many. Be Well and Stay Safe for You, Yours, and Everyone else.

{{{Wyoming}}} - the social distancing champion.

Proves you can't get it from cows and sheep.

Definitely some wide open spaces in Wyoming.  I've had some positive experiences with the people there, especially the Native Americans, so I'm glad they're getting by unscathed so far.  

 

It's funny how they did the deaths per million. Although Vermont has 23 deaths, it comes out to 37 per million. Over half our deaths are from 2 assisted living facilities.

This reminds me of an article that my wife had sent me awhile ago, grading states on social distancing, as tracked by cell phone location data (Wyoming was the only state to receive a failing grade).

This isn't the original article that I read, but it's about the same subject:

https://www.wyomingnews.com/news/local_news/national-data-company-gives-...

Where this has blown up is more about population density. California is not in the top 10 ten states for population density. 

I've been keeping an eye on the statistics for my home state, Washington.  
 

As the first place in the nation that the outbreak took hold, we once were #1 in the nation on the list of reported positive cases.   With early heeding of social distancing strategies, we flattened the curve of new cases,  and have now dropped to #13 nationwide.  Our healthcare system has not been overwhelmed.  

A temporary field hospital that was built at Century Link Field was disassembled and sent to another state with greater need before ever being used. We returned 80% of the ventilators distributed to us from the national stockpile.  
 

Our strategies appear to be effectively working.  Hopefully, we will be at the forefront of testing and contact tracing too.  

COAST VS. COAST

Connecticut is seeing a higher death toll than California

Although only one-tenth its size, Connecticut has reported more deaths and proportionally more cases of coronavirus than California. The death rate for COVID19 patients in California is 4.1%, compared to a death rate of 8.1% in Connecticut.

Check and see if Jambone is ok.

State...

CONFIRMED CASES 123,717

DEATHS 7,742

6.23% mortality rate 

County...

CONFIRMED CASES 6,692

DEATHS 426

6.37% mortality rate

Town...

CONFIRMED CASES  1,150 

DEATHS  66

5.74% mortality rate.

Sure do wish there was a federally coordinated testing and contact tracing program. 

Lots of good info if you have the time. Pretty much stears clear of the ineptitude of our gov't.

Data during this global pandemic changes daily, so drawing conclusions can be tricky for researchers and government officials seeking answers about how, and when, to reopen shuttered states. Still, the difference between some states, including Connecticut and California, raises questions.

“It’s so stark, the differences,” said pathologist Alan Wu of the University of California- San Francisco. “In my hospital we have had zero deaths. We are the second highest dense population next to New York City. We have had zero individuals who have died,” he said.

As in California, the overwhelming number of deaths here occurs in those over 65.

“Because we did not have adequate access to testing, the disease spread for weeks while our state remained open. On the West Coast, they identified cases early and shut down much more quickly as a result.”

—Summer Johnson McGee, epidemiologist at the University of New Haven

the state’s fatalities, 78% were over 65. California does not break down ages beyond “over 65.”

In Connecticut, 80% of those who died of the virus were 70 or older.

Although pre-existing conditions are a major factor in COVID-19 outcomes, neither public health department has yet released pre-existing conditions of those who contract or die from the virus.

Precisely why the death toll and incidence of infections is so much higher is unclear. Health experts note the Northeast’s density, Connecticut’s proximity to New York — the epicenter of the virus — and its older population. California also imposed social distancing protocols earlier.

“We are one of the oldest areas in the country,” said Dr. Thomas Balcezak, chief medical officer of Yale New Haven Hospital. “This disease has a predilection for killing older people rather than younger. Also, with age come co-morbidities.” Those other conditions include, principally, hypertension, diabetes and obesity. “We might have more of that here,” he said.

The median age of all people in California was 36.7 in 2018; in Connecticut, it is 41.1, according to the American Community Survey. The state’s have similar levels of obesity, hypertension and diabetes, according to federal statistics.

Connecticut has tested a slightly higher percentage of its population — or 2.7%, compared to California’s 1.6%. (The state with the highest testing rate is Rhode Island, which has tested 6% of its population, just above New York, which has tested 4.6%).

Nevertheless, the differences could not be sharper. The total number of confirmed cases on the entire west coast Wednesday stood at 62,339. In Massachusetts and Connecticut alone Wednesday, there were 82,774 cases of COVID-19.

COVID-19 HIT THE WEST COAST from Wuhan, China, first. California confirmed its first cases two cases Jan. 26. By late February, San Francisco’s mayor declared a state of emergency, although the city did not report its first case until March 5. California Gov. Gavin Newsom had declared a state of emergency the day before, after reporting its first death.

By March 8, Connecticut reported its first COVID-19 patient, a Wilton resident who had just traveled to California. Gov. Ned Lamont declared a state of emergency March 10 and required all “non-essential” businesses to shut down March 20.

“The proximity to New York was probably one of the biggest reasons” for the discrepancy between California and Connecticut numbers, said Dr. Syed Ahmed Hussain, Trinity Health of New England senior vice president and chief medical officer, adding, “California was the first state to put in stay at home measures. San Francisco put in social distancing measures before anybody else, when New Yorkers were hanging out at bars and restaurants.”

San Francisco’s mayor declared a state of emergency in late February. Although San Francisco’s population is about 10% of that of New York, New York has 200 times the number of infections.

New York, the densest city in the country, had 295,137 cases and 17,638 deaths on Wednesday or a death rate of 6%.

In San Francisco, the second densest city in the country, the death rate from coronavirus is 1.5%.

Summer Johnson McGee, epidemiologist at the University of New Haven, said population density is “a big part of why the East Coast has been hit so hard by COVID-19. While the West Coast has large population dense cities, they are spread out with less populated areas in between,” she said. “The Boston-New York-Washington corridor is basically one giant continuous city.”

Additionally, she believes COVID-19 “was likely here on the East Coast much earlier than we knew, probably starting in early February,” said McGee, who is dean of the School of Health Sciences at UNH. “For more than a month, the virus likely was on the East Coast, spreading largely undetected before we began closing things down.”

California Gov. Garry Newsom began shutting the state down March 19. Gov. Ned Lamont followed on March 23.

“Two or three days makes a difference,” Hussain said.

LACK OF TESTING ALSO PLAYED A PART in the disparities, said McGee. “Because we did not have adequate access to testing, the disease spread for weeks while our state remained open,” she said. “On the West Coast, they identified cases early and shut down much more quickly as a result.”

It remains unclear how quickly COVID-19 can spread, largely because health officials have not been able to test as many people as they’d like and because some studies suggest asymptomatic people can spread the virus, the CDC reports. New York reported its first case March 1; by March 23, it had 20,875 cases and 157 deaths.

At least one expert speculates the strain of coronavirus on the East Coast is more aggressive and deadly than the coronavirus strain on the West Coast. That’s because different mutations of the virus attacked the country’s two coasts almost simultaneously. Researchers at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai N.Y.U. found that the majority of people infected with coronavirus in New York have a strain that came from Europe. Researchers lead by Li Lanjuan of Zhejiang University in China have reported that that European strain is more destructive than the Chinese or West Coast strain.

That Chinese study found more than 30 mutations of the disease and that the mutations that infected people in Europe and the East Coast was more aggressive than others. However, the study was small, including only 11 patients, and has not been peer reviewed.

Wu speculates that the infections from Italy and Spain and Iran that affected the East Coast were more destructive than the strain that affected West Coast states. “The West coast got their second wave after Wuhan had mostly settled down. We see sick patients. It’s just not as severe.”

Neither Hussain nor Balcezak supported that conclusion. “It’s possible,” said Balcezak. “But, look, this virus is bad. It’s bad. It’s a fast-moving, deadly virus. There is no cure for this virus. All we can do is support you. There is no treatment.”

Social distancing is so far the only method that has slowed transmission, he said, urging people to maintain vigilance.

CT and it's people doing a piss poor job at social distancing huh. 

ras you been going to church? lol.  

vermont has the lowest rate, along w/ montana and hawaii. 

>vermont has the lowest rate, along w/ montana and hawaii<

The largest city in Vermont has less than half the population of my Jersey shore town. 

 Vermont has a population of 623,989 vs Connecticut's 3,565,287. It's a little easier to socially distance if there are fewer people. 

Hell, Newark, Jersey City and Paterson have a combined population greater than the entire state of Vermont. 

Additionally,  Connecticut and New Jersey have a large number of people who work in New York, therefore it is not surprising to see a large number of cases in both states.

is this fact?

<<<>>>The death rate for COVID19 patients in California is 4.1%, compared to a death rate of 8.1% in Connecticut.

^Yep. But it's also been reported that the strain of coronavirus on the east coast is far more aggressive than the strain that is infecting most of the west coast.  And population density plays a major part. 

wow, that's a wild stat. 

Connecticut is actually 8.31%

Keep in mind, all these death rates are based on the tested and proven cases, and our testing has been abysmal. True rates of infection are substantially higher, and mortality rates are substantially lower.

I know that Vermont is going to re-look at every death since March, to see if they were possibly COVID related.

^I know, BK, too bad we don't have a federally coordinated, comprehensive testing and contact tracing program. It's a complete failure of leadership from the President and his administration. 

Brian is absolutely right.  The "confirmed infections" numbers are virtually meaningless.  By and large, they only test people who are sick.  I have a friend who just tried to schedule an appointment at one of those drive in test centers and they told him that he couldnt be tested if he was asymptomatic.

I have read that the actual infection rates are probably ten times higher because most people are asymptomatic or suffer mild symptoms that they never bothered to have treated.   I have also heard that the actual mortality rate is probably around one-half of one percent.  Still if 60 percent of the world's population gets it, that would equate to 15 million deaths worldwide.  Of course, a large percentage of those people would have died soon anyway, but a significant pandemic for sure and something to take seriously 

^Sure, Ken, but it's hardly reassuring that there are asymptomatic people who are possibly transmitting the virus, especially in states that are opening back up.

Too bad there isn't a federally coordinated, comprehensive testing program. We would have a better understanding of the scope of the problem.

Although it's not as deadly as we once thought, it is highly infectious. Who gets it is indiscriminate. Who it effects is highly discriminate, ravaging the elderly, sick and lower socio-economic classes. Yes, the random, healthy 25 year old may die, but that's incredibly rare.

What concerns me most is the mutations of the virus from country to country.  Spain, Italy, Iran, all different strains that hit the east coast at the same time, while basically only one strain hit the west, the original china skunk #1. 

How do you create a vaccine that will combat them all ? God Bless the scientists, the lab rats, they sure as hell have their work cut out for em

I think there are a multitude of factors behind the spread and outbreak ... when they all come together you get New York or Italy.. IMO One very important factor here in NY  is that the virus was here long before they thought it was. They also should have shut down a week or 2 earlier 

>They also should have shut down a week or 2 earlier <

It took the NBA to get the ball rolling 

^^^ They knew we were shutting down at least 1 week before they did... teachers were already working on plans. That means the administrators were working on plans a week before that so it was probably more like 2 weeks.  My point is when they told people to start planning they should have shut down then planned as far as how to do stuff from home. That's what happened anyway 

People were out in droves this past weekend. In about two weeks, that will be an accurate barometer of what to look forward to. Either gonna be a huge spike on both coasts or lets all go out to play.