How Do These People Survive Day To Day?

 Zoner handles?

"That mask is killing people. It literally is killing people."

She must be talking about that old Jim Carrey movie The Mask. The scene with the dog wearing the mask killed me that's for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_xTTqhEeLk&t=18s

Seems the mask wearing thing has cleverly been made into a political identity thing so as to detract attention from the obvious (virus).

Hangs my head low and I said.....Yea, were fucked

I have a bad feeling about the Fall...

I have a bad feeling in 10 days

Stay safe Tim. 

> the mask wearing thing has cleverly been made into a political identity thing

No doubt. I live in the mountains between LA and Bakersfield in Kern County and the most dishonorable Kevin McCarthy is the US Representative for this district (I refuse to call him my congressman). Lately, it seems I'm one of few who still wears a mask around town. I needed to go down to the San Fernando Valley the other day and almost everyone there had masks on in public. The difference was clear as red and blue.

Cases in California are rising fast, and next week almost everything opens for business.

We are not ready for it; the cases are going to go way up after the 4th of July.

Second lockdown coming.

We are breaking new case records almost daily. Hospitalizations on the rise. Deaths are climbing too.

Governor DeSantis is on TV almost daily telling us it's all good. Tells us about more openings and more invites to boost tourism.

I'm sorry but the Republicans seem to want us all to die off. Money hungry fucks.

I'm just a dumb fuck deadhead with no 4 year degree but it seems to me the country should have had or defiantly by now have some sort of plan/playbook. Its a shit ton of finger pointing, passing the buck and turn a blind side.

King Trump stood in front of the cameras, telling agencies and medical professionals with 50 fuckin years of experience that they are wrong and there is no way we will have 200,000+ deaths.

Well Mr. reality game show host......Its going to happen.

Oh, the irony of the dumbass calling the doctor "ignorant."

Hey, let them eat cake...er...I mean let them eschew wearing a mask. Let Darwinism work its magic. Cha cha cha...just a bunch of Trump fans, racists and idiots.

Can't fix stupid.

Like a rape victim - let's just sit back and enjoy this.

There may be some sarcasm in the above. I'm sure you can figure it out.

King County (Seattle) got to move to Phase 2 last Friday when we ducked under the 25 new cases a day per 10,000 residents ratio set as the new standard (it had been 10/10,000).  A week later we're back up to 44/10,000.  No discussion of shutting back down though.  No coincidence that the state sales tax revenue evaporated starting May 25th.  Once the state's funding deficit became glaringly obvious, all this high-minded talk from the politicians about decisions being led by science and their looking out for the well-being of the citizens went out the window.  At least they are making face masks mandatory statewide starting Friday.

For better or worse, I do not think there will be more/extended lockdowns in any state. Keep yourselves safe and protected as best you can on your own. The half-assed "response" from the current administration has brought the country to a 50-piece patchwork of differing actions with varying results.

>>>How Do These People Survive Day To Day<<<

Looking for a laugh I started watching the video of that guy from The Daily Show who was interviewing people at the Trump rallies. He was good and it should have been really funny but I couldn't get through more than a couple of minutes of it. It just made me really sad, angry and more than a bit scared to see that there can be so many inconceivably ignorant people in our country.

Having different political beliefs is fine, and there are many ignorant people on The Left and every other side & corner of the spectrum, but holy cow, these Trumpers. Just holy cow.

>>>no way we will have 200,000+ deaths<<<

Are the deaths that are beginning to add up from people who "recovered" but are now dying of heart attacks, strokes and other deadly maladies caused by the virus going to count? If so we'll likely blow right past that number.

The Orange One and his band of flying monkeys won't like that.

There is a segment of idiots here in Vermont who complain that our politicians and our health advisors - especially our Governor (ironically, a Republican) - are taking things too slow in opening up and are acting like "pussies".

Meanwhile - we have one of the lowest per capita amounts of cases and deaths.

Coincidence?

>>>>How Do These People Survive Day To Day?

Strictly due to hard working healthcare professionals who then have to risk their own lives by going to work and taking care of these worldwide dumb fucks.  The ones who believe that some god has anything to do with face masks, viruses, the size of their pp's or anything else they can deflect blame from their own ignorance and onto some sort of diety fuckery are especially entertaining.

Unfortunately, some of these nobel prize winners have been elected to represent us...

Uh, I think that's noble prize winners.

I was in very rural Arkansas last week . Northest,  8miles north 9 miles east is Missouri.  The county went from one case to thirty three while I was there. Exploding there. My friends wife swabs at the local clinic.  

I tested for covid when I came home , negative. 

G' luck Tim.

The whole mask "controversy" is just mind-boggling to me. It's an easy decision to make: it probably helps and definitely doesn't hurt, and at least some of your neighbors will be comforted (if nothing else) due to you wearing one.

There is actually no good argument against wearing masks. None. 

>>There is actually no good argument against wearing masks. None. 
 

Yes there is. Jesus hates mask-wearers. Isn't that enough, you heathen?

No, it is spelled "Nobel" - named after a human, not a human attribute.

There are actually some pretty good arguments for some people not wearing masks at all, and for exceptional circumstances when others shouldn't wear a mask.  This is from an article discussing Washington's statewide mask ordinance which goes into effect tomorrow: 

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As with previous orders, there will be specific exemptions for those who may be adversely impacted by wearing a facial covering. These exemptions include those with certain medical conditions and children under the age of two, who should not wear a face covering. Children aged two, three and four are encouraged, but not required, to wear a face covering in public with the assistance and supervision of an adult.

In addition, individuals may remove face coverings under certain circumstances, including while eating or drinking at a restaurant; while communicating with a person who is Deaf or hard of hearing; and while outdoors in public areas, provided that a distance of six feet is maintained from people who are not members of their household.

How far will some people go to not wear a mask? Pretty far, I'd say.

https://www.newtimesslo.com/SLOthevirus/archives/2020/06/23/slo-county-p...

Wow, those folks are off the charts whack. A local columnist today described some of the anti-mask people as "Petri Dish Patriots". 

I found this on that twitter feed. 

During the 1918-1919 pandemic there was an Anti-Mask League" based in San Francisco...that 2nd or 3rd wave should be fairly horrendous.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Mask_League_of_San_Francisco

I believe I lifted that graphic from another prior thread on this board but it remains very worthy of note.

By sheer numbers of deaths alone, there is absolutely no comparison between covid and the Spanish flu. None at all. It's just stupid that anyone would even try to compare. The only similarity is that we have to wear masks. Get your head out of your asshole

I am sorry to say that you're an idiot if you believe that. The populations are much higher today and we are witnessing a similar projectory of cases and deaths. Good luck to you.

> there is absolutely no comparison between covid and the Spanish flu

I'm curious about the basis of your conclusion, Timpane. Any data to back that up?

A novel virus is just that: unknown.

Timpy likes being wrong, but he's consistent!

<<By sheer numbers of deaths alone, there is absolutely no comparison between covid and the Spanish flu.

It never fails to amaze me when I realize that the far left has more in common with the far right then they do with me. 

The Spanish Flu killed 50 million worldwide and 675,000 in the United States.

So far, Covid has killed just under 500,000 people worldwide and just over 120,000 people in the US, so there is a long way to go for Covid to be anywhere nearly as bad as the Spanish Flu.  Covid has also killed far less people worldwide than the Avian flu of 1957 (1.4 million) or the Hong Kong Flu of 1968 (1 million).  Covid is still a very serious thing, but put in historical context, many prior pandemics were much worse. 

Point taken, Ken, but comparing a completed phenomenon with one that's still underway is folly at best. Covid could shrivel up and die tomorrow, or it could keep on trucking for another year or two.

That said, it is kind of interesting to compare the ratio of worldwide and US deaths for the Spanish Flu versus Covid (to date). It looks like the rest of the world has learned a thing or two about pandemics in the last 100 years, but the same doesn't seem to be true for the US.

>>>>interesting to compare the ratio of worldwide and US deaths for the Spanish Flu versus Covid (to date)

Along those same lines, more Americans have died from Covid than than the 1957 Avian Flu or the1968 Hong Kong Flu (about 100,000 US deaths each) even though, worldwide, Covid deaths are still only a fraction of the deaths caused by those two earlier pandemics.   So yes, Covid is hitting America much more disproportionately than many historic pandemics.

When I was down in Mexico back in March I was talking with a German dude and was explaining how Americans were probably going to take the lockdown seriously for about a month and a half before they revolt against it and demand that thing open up.  I explained how Americans are not patient people and don't like to be told what to do.

Tim

check back later on 3 month intervals 

there was no internet telling the morons to wear masks back then

freedom to die Is yours

unfortunately so is freedom to kill

Tim

check back later on 3 month intervals 

there was no internet telling the morons to wear masks back then

freedom to die Is yours

unfortunately so is freedom to kill

worth repeating 

Those wine Moms in Palm Beach held a Trump flag up for 20 minutes during the counsel meeting.

SURPRISE

Don't you have to factor in modern medicine when comparing numbers from today and a hundred years ago? Or even fifty?

How many people are "recovering" now that wouldn't have in 1918?

Ned, you once again have no idea what you're talking about. The data is very easy to find, guys. You're all fixated on these memes and social media telling you that there's some correlation between covid and the Spanish flu. Most folks on Facebook are living in a completely delusional reality, I've noticed. Very glad to not be on there anymore. Aside from being a pandemic there's really no comparison. I think Spanish flu killed something like 14 mil in a India alone. Again, if we are talking about deaths it's nowhere near that level yet so stop acting like it is or keep going on living in a dream world. 
 

Btw, they did wear masks during the Spanish flu. Only similarity so far. Keep going back to living in fear now

considering your point that the population was less back in 1918 the theratio was far worse for the Spanish flu.

 Keep rooting for more folks to die so you crazies can prove your point lol. Geez

Timpy... I'd like to engage your services for some thoroughbred handicapping.

Ned, you have nothing. No facts, no good jokes, and no basis to stand upon. Go back to your cave and dwell there with the Facebook on. Come back when you think you've learned something.

I'm not rooting for any death. I'd be happy as a pig in slop if zero people died from today on.

Martin county is voting on masks for everyone or not.

One lady spoke against masks citing....Since automobile death are down due to the "illegal lock down"  than the corona death will even out the numbers of deaths in 2020 so there is no need for masks.

I had to rewind it 3x to make sure I wasn't flash backing.

WOW

TOD VS TRUMP

TOD WINs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsuYUGxyw9Y

St. Lucie County

This a brother and a neighbor

Tell it like it is!!!!!!!

And y'all say Floridians are off......haaaa

Were fuckin INSANE