Had Jerry been more like John Mayer
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Maybe deadheads wouldn’t be such a bunch of slovenly outcasts. Fitted button down shirts and Tag Heuer watches, instead of tie dye and hemp necklaces.
Also he might still be alive. I’m guessing Mayer eats fairly healthy.
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Jerry grew up in counter
Garcia grew up in counter culture era
Mayer grew up in pop culture era
Mayer dress code St. Mark approved?????
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I think I saw this thread on
I think I saw this thread on phantasy tour...
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Jerry baled on tie dyes
Jerry baled on tie dyes pretty early, and I don't believe the audience was emulating him fashion or otherwise, but the big picture was the "perfect storm" for stoners, no doubt. I once read the GD's prime demographic was white suburban males- in the early 70's we were all smokin' weed.
Also once read that Garcia said "I'm not leading anybody anywhere"... oh, heroin is still a big killer, though.
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vicodin more responsible for
vicodin more responsible for heroin uptick not Jerry. Just sayin!
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Had Jerry been more like
Had Jerry been more like John Mayer...
...there never would have been a Grateful Dead.
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>>>Mayer dress code St. Mark
>>>Mayer dress code St. Mark approved????
I'm hot & cold on Mayer's style. He has a good sense of how to manage the classics; but he struggles when he tries to go outside the box.
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>>>>>there never would have
>>>>>there never would have been a Grateful Dead
Or maybe there would have been and they’d still be touring.
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It’s true Mark, he’s not
It’s true Mark, he’s not always consistent. I do wish my hair had as much body as his.
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outside the box
outside the box
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<<<<<Or maybe there would
<<<<<Or maybe there would have been and they’d still be touring.
Jerry/Hunter wrote great classic songs that stand the test of time
Mayer not so much
Plus no LSD guy to fund early Mayerful Dead touring effort.
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Maybe deadheads wouldn’t be
I think the guys would be just about the same. The real bonus would be that there would have been a lot more fashionable women in the audience. :-)
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>>>...there never would have
>>>...there never would have been a Grateful Dead.
The Woodstock gen would be even bluesier.
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Dready chicks who don't dress
Dready chicks who don't dress like bum's are hot.
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Let's gets serious Bobby from
Let's gets serious Bobby from the shoulders up is morphing into Jerry
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>>I think I saw this thread
>>I think I saw this thread on phantasy tour...
lol
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>> The real bonus would be
>> The real bonus would be that there would have been a lot more fashionable women in the audience. :-) <<
I'd still choose stinky, hairy, hippie girls over frat-blowing skanks, any day.
But the fake-tit crowd would definitely be better represented.
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I'd still choose stinky,
Who said anything about frat-blowing skanks? LOL
The audience would be more like a Josh Ritter/Ryan Adams vibe. As for fake tits, more study would be needed to make that call.
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He would have tried to do too
He would have tried to do too much on the guitar and just end up being a soulless clown like Mayer trying to play rehearsed SRV/Hendrix licks without listening to the rest of the band. Good thread. Makes you realize how lucky fans of GD are that Jerry was nothing like Mayer at all.
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Do not approve.
Do not approve.
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Would have to agree with
Would have to agree with timpane on that. 1965 was pre-smarmy and what smarm 1965 had was way more prankster than "dude" smarm. Even John Mayer would not have even been the same John Mayer in 1965 - there would have been no basis for the irony of his blues hipster. I can't see someone like Hunter gravitating to someone like Mayer to collaborate with either. So what degree of Mayer would you have liked to see Jerry have had? 10% 20% 50% - what would it have taken, in your opinion, in terms of how much Mayer was needed, to speculate that Jerry might still be alive in 2017 and that the Grateful Dead would still be touring? The next question would be - how much would that Grateful Dead be like what the Grateful Dead that really existed was?
Good thought went into this thread. It is certainly provocative. Well done OP.
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>>>>- how much would that
>>>>- how much would that Grateful Dead be like what the Grateful Dead that really existed was?
most deadheads only like 70's GD
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I have a lot to say about on
I have a lot to say about on this subject but I'm not ready to put it into paragraph format yet, although I do appreciate the real deep-thinkers who have contributed to the topic at hand.
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>>>I can't see someone like
>>>I can't see someone like Hunter gravitating to someone like Mayer to collaborate with either
I bet Hunter whishes he had written 'Your Body Is A Wonderland'.
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I do appreciate the real deep
>>>>i do appreciate the real deep-thinkers who have contributed to the topic at hand.
this!
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https://vimeo.com/30954731
https://vimeo.com/30954731
^^^
What if Superman grew up in Germany and became a Nazi ??
What if ?
(The link is an old clip from SNL which asks, "What if Superman grew up in Germany and became a Nazi ??")
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If Jerry had been more like
If Jerry had been more like Mayer, he would have banged pop stars like Cher, Petulia Clark, Tina Turner, Olivia Newton John and Karen Carpenter. He probably would have scored some actresses, too, like Elizabeth Montgomery, Barbara Eden and Farrah Fawcett.
That’s all I can be sure of.
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That’s all I can be sure of.
I think you can add a probable drunken brawl with James Caan at the Playboy Mansion.
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How far do you guys think
How far do you guys think Mayer dating a black woman would go towards repairing his public image?
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He should probably just start
He should probably just start calling himself a black woman.
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The link to old SNL skit
The link to old SNL skit above features a young Al Franken as "Jimmy Olsteyn". Check it out. Überman.