GS Warriors Hate Index

I grew up a Warriors fan in the BA-  relocated in the 80's

Not a fan anymore- the franchise...still a fan maybe- but Curry strikes me as a bit of a punk- Green is just a shit talking shitbird.

Talented players- yes- and a great team- but I could care less about any of it now.

Oh yeah, I'm a Jazz fan. Was hoping they would put a little more of a fight.

No hate .....just done

Basketball is pretty much soccer without a goalie.

>>>an expected minimum addition of +1.3 over the next series. 

I don't know about that... the Utah Mormons brought the hate big time, plus a matchup against Harden could easily lower the overall GS hate index.

GO WARRIORS!

Hahaha hating on the Warriors is like hating on the retarded kid when he finally gets a date. They sucked for like 40 years straight and they have one good draft and everyone gets angry with them. Hopefully you all don't hate on the Bucks when the Greek Freak takes them to the promised land. 

i liked the gs barron davis squad that put dallas away....

but all you current gs fans were rooting just as hard for that team back then....right???

durant....its just bad manners, low class, pussy move to leave your current team to the team...that just beat you..in the playoffs. poor form. really poor.

ps. fuck houston.

>>>rooting just as hard for that team back then....right???

I was... Mully/Timmy era too, though I admit I didn't watch a ton of regular season games like I do now (mostly just watched the playoffs back then).

But this GS team, like the showtime Lakers and Jordan's Bulls is damn fun to watch.

Sorry your Lakers suck, but they have had more than their share of winning (and classless players), so I don't feel too badly for you.

All other teams besides the Dubs are weak and sad and not worth my time!

Green is a POS, bigly. 

agreed shuffle.

its cool hall.

Mark sure does like appropriating my material and claiming it as his own. 

Hey, don't forget to kick Steve Kerr while he's down.

I'm not connecting the current Warriors season with my Dad's passing, so have at it, folks.

It’s too bad that many of the long suffering GS fans who were year in and year out some of the best fans in the league got pushed out for the be seen crowd that goes now. Living in Kings country now I would take rooting for the hated team over the pile of shit they put out on the floor at the Golden Shower center.

Hate index

Ws                 Nationally       Personally

Curry               8                       6                      Would be lower if it weren't for the mouth guard

Durant             6                       1                      Keeps a low profile, takes care of business...I like his style 

Green              9                       7                      Keeping the attention on him like Rodman did for the bulls.  Still....shut the f up already.    

Thompson        3                      1                      lost in the mix of the other three

Cavs

Bronny            7                        7                    no one has worse bitch face.  No reason for him to be whining like he does.

Irving              3                        4                    still has work to do to climb the hate meter

Love              5                         6                    Seems like he might as well be Dwight Howard.....always shows up but rarely lives up to his talent.   

Korver            4                         6                    rainin threes.....come back to my neighborhood!!!!

>Muscle Milk commercial with Curry<

clearly the shit don't work.

personally, i think jr and mark should do a game of 21 in their best dressed outfit to settle this...

A fifteen year old girl who went to the school where I work suddenly passed away this past weekend while playing basketball, and she loved the Warriors more than anything.

I was just told minutes ago that Curry heard about it and contacted the family and wants to donate something in her honor. There are many stories like that about him.

It's an odd thing about the human condition that we tend to find ways to hate those who are successful, but Curry is a straight-up quality person in my book.

Curry lives in the East East Bay. It's hot. 

>>>>i liked the gs barron davis squad that put dallas away....

>>>>but all you current gs fans were rooting just as hard for that team back then....right???

^That's about as good of an example of the bandwagon phenomenon that I can think of right now.

lol

I spoke to Jim and we've agreed to participate together once things start heating up. You might remember Jim as a candidate for ZOY last year, and my credentials of course go without saying. 

so johnnyd....was my rooing for GS during that period "bandwagoning"? or do you mean people who are current GS fans, that didn't support the club back when...?

also hall, please name some "classless" lakers players....maaaaybe van exel? what else ya got?

Shaq and Kobe

lol.

I boycotted the Lakers and basketball in general during the Kobe era. I did root for the Trailblazers to blaze and for Spree to choke PJ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W4BAnIgB2I

still don't care for Curry -- sorry

Best team in hoops, playing the game the way it was meant to be played. In a copycat league, this has been good for Basketball.

if you weren't from dallas, how could you have not wanted GS to win that series back in 2007. that was classic. that team was bad ass! fun stuff.

 doesn't draymond green think the earth is flat? strange. 

oh, and fuck golden state-be great to see them lose to LeBron in the finals again. certainly fun to watch play the game

though. 

Stever won't like this thread.  

Personally, I'm bored with the NBA, but all-in on the NHL playoffs.  The NBA would be so much better if cross-checking and a penalty-box were part of the game.

Hey Turtle,

I wasn't saying anything negative about you (or others) regarding the 2006-2007 Warriors love.

First off, I was personally happy to see Nelson return to the club (I liked Montgomery when he was with Stanford, though).  But they had a not-too-good season before their amazing run to close the regular season.

I'm mainly remembering what was happening in the Bay Area when they beat the Maveriks in the first round.  It was like an explosion of "We Believe" everywhere.  It's not a criticism, but an observation that just about everyone was talking about it.

My statement reflects my ongoing desire to understand what people mean by the term  "Bandwagon."     It seems like more than a few people throw that word around without really defining the term.  And it appears to have some sort of negative connotation.  Why shouldn't people get excited when their local team is entertaining and successful?

I know: There are valid reasons for people to feel the way they do.  I just find it interesting.

And I do admit that I have an unnatural loyalty to my different communities.  I consider the Warriors and their fans to be part of my community (I live less than 10 miles and work about 3 1/2 miles from the Oakland Coliseum).  So there's that.

>>>>>>>>Sadly, last year's Finals were more than Stever could bear.

My take was that he was tired of all the shit that Zoners slung at him for his Warriors and TXR content.  IMHO, of course.

^I agree with you on that, St. Mark.

Admittedly, I'm feeling a bit goofy this morning.  

>>>Personally, I'm bored with the NBA, but all-in on the NHL playoffs.  The NBA would be so much better if cross-checking and a penalty-box were part of the game<<<

Reminded me of these...

Golf would be better...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez16Z1BV3Q0

Bowling would be better...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xt1ynyKP5NU

Billiards would be better...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fDQl-wKCrnc

No better example of bandwagoning than the disappearance of SF Giants threads now that they have sunk to the bottom of the NL West.  Bandwagon jumpers are fair weather fans, Jonnny, only there for the good times.  Other than giving up on the Wizards when they changed their name from the Bullets and becoming an NBA nomad, I have always rooted for the same major sports teams I grew up with, the Orioles, Capitals and Redskins through the thick and the thin.  

Big game 7 for the Caps tonight.  No matter the result, I will still be following them tomorrow.

Lolz OCLT.

Actually the Giants threads are still alive and well.....just gotta poke aorund.  

The Folder doesn't count, Z.  It's when the threads start popping up in OS that you know the Bandwagon is rolling.

ps. can't stand harden's incessant running into people and looking for a foul. garbage.

that's fairly accurate.

Personally, I'm bored with the NBA, but all-in on the NHL playoffs.<<<

Totally agree, Dave.

There has been some really good hockey this year.

I still wear my SF Giants hat... couple days ago, the burnout Colorado transplant cashier at the minimart saw it and started giving me shit for how bad the Giants are and how "his" Rockies are in first, but after all the winning the Giants have done in recent years, that shit doesn't even phase me, in fact, I was sort of happy that I had helped lift this poor fucker's spirits, even if it is only May. 

Hey Denver and DC basketball fans:  Is it just me, or does JaVale McGee seem to be doing fewer stupid things since he's become a Warrior?

The NBA is garbage. Has been for 20 years. Even Barkley agrees. 

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/05/09/charles-barkley-nhl-nba-play...

Barkley doesn't get much respect in these parts, Keith.

It all really went downhill after he retired, I'm sure.

He may be an ass but he knows garbage when he sees it. NHL edge of your seat excitement. NBA not to much. Unless you're a fan of isolations and chucking 3's. 

I'll admit that I haven't watched much of the Warriors with their new lineup this year (no cable and internet has been whacky at home during the evenings), but IMHO, the Warriors have been using teamwork, quick passes, getting more people involved, etc.  Which seems much more like the type of play that made me a big fan of NHL hockey in the early '90's.

I imagine that the addition of Durant has resulted in relatively more isolations.  At least I'm not seeing what annoyed me at one point in the NBA: the Big Guy slowly dribbling at the point and directing his teammates to one corner, so he could get and easy shot/layup.

^I hope THAT gets some folks to participate...   

i like barkley. think he's wrong...as he often is...

how many of you "hockey fans" have actually played the sport? i have not which limits my appreciation...

nba athletes are amongst the most well conditioned.

like football, timeouts, tv time outs, reviews have killed the game.

"chucking 3's"...is why i do not like the warriors or the no D in antonni rockets....

You don't need to play hockey to appreciate it. The speed, the skill and the hitting speak for themselves. Games 7's all over the place. Sudden death overtime. You can't beat it. 

NBA you get a bunch of blowouts and sweeps till the finals. You can't compare the two. 

>>>>and the hitting

lame

nhl flow, no timeouts are definitely waaaay better.

>>>"chucking 3's"...is why i do not like the warriors<<<

Common' Turtle, that's not why you don't like them.

And they don't "chuck 3's"; they work for the open shot, passing the ball and running/working always for the open shot. From the small amount of coaching I've had in the game and any conversation I've ever heard about basketball I've always heard that the best way to play offense is to move, pass the ball and work for the open shot and take it when it's there, which is pretty basic and makes a lot of sense.

It just so happens that the Warriors have two of the best 3-point shooters of all time on their team, along with a few others who are very good at it when it's an open shot, so it's just smart basketball for them to take 3's if they're open shots. Curry is the one who will take them even when not open, Thompson to a lesser degree, but Curry IS the best 3-point shooter of all time and he makes those unadvisable shots often enough that it's still smart.

So you don't like them because they play selfless team basketball, passing, hustling, working hard and being smart.

And they play great defense too.

Ugh, the Warriors style sucks and they're so easy to hate...

Right.

People hate them because they're great. It's always the way, we root for the underdog until they become great, and then we turn against them. THAT is the true fairweather fan phenomenon - that people jump on the HATE bandwagon when a team in any sport becomes great, a team that people had little or no opinion of before they became successful.

It's one thing if that team begins beating the team we root for, especially if it's a playoff or championship type deal, but otherwise it's always been odd to me. We watch professional sports to see greatness in action, and when we see it we look to knock it down.

I wonder what Freud would have said about that.

"GO WARRIORS!!!!!" is what I say.

(And I've been rooting for them since Rick Barry was the best shooter in the league and Jamaal was still Keith, so there)

Hitting is lame Slacker? I'm not talking fighting/cheap shots. I'm talking solid checks and defense. Go back to Disneyland. 

Who cares? The Giro d'Italia is underway.

how many of you "hockey fans" have actually played the sport?<<<<

*raises hand*

Roller hockey here, not on the ice, and not in many years.

"I'm not saying they should be slashing at heads out there, but they're not wearing tutus either." Don Cherry

I think most zoners who don't like basketball, dislike the sport for the same reason they hate hip hop music.  Or at least that's how I read lance's post. 

Hip hop artists play selfless team basketball, working hard, hustling and being smart? That's why people hate hip hop?

That brings up an interesting question: does a team or individual player have to be world champion to be great?

mostly agree lance, and thats human nature. i actually do not hate the warriors pal. they used to be like the northren clippers. im fine with them finally having success after like forever....their only player i dont like is green. but because of him, igoudala and barnes, they are good defensively.

good luck. if you are the front runner u better stand the heat...

especially since ship jumper kd came aboard...

So, maybe the Warriors are a great team in a historically shitty franchise?

go dubs!

most exciting sports team to watch since tebow was laying it down in the SEC

^^And during an historically shitty era of NBA basketball, as many attest.

Can someone go to txr and tell Steve r to post during the playoffs. I pissed myself a little thinking of the possibilities. 

Is there an indifference index? If so, I'd give them a solid 10 out of 10. 

isaiah thomas is my height...

ps. i won my nba pool which is one of the oldest fantasy systems in existence and is still tabulated by hand....its been a few yrs.

westbrook is the mvp...like he should have been last year as well....

were the Bills great?

The top level players in the game today are some of the greatest to play the game. The mid level and lower players not so great, but its a hard call to make because the game has totally changed in the past 5 or so years. Gone are the dominate bigs and the game in the lane. Assists and rebounds are now made outside the lane more often than inside the paint. I personally hope for the trapazoid to make its way to the nba and the game gets even more sleeker and faster

Another ex basketball player and roller hockey player. The basketball was up until my mid 30's, the hockey was in my upper 30's, and throw in some mens volleyball leagues during my 20's

I think I might be less into sports than Amy Schumer's character in Trainwreck. No disrespect was intended towards the Warriors, I was just kidding around. My bad-ish. 

Warriors.....meh

That shit was so grand watching them choke the big 3-1 lead to the Cavs.

What a FUCKIN'  gas!

I hope whatever team comes out of the East beats them again this year.....but I highly doubt that will be the case.

And if anyone does see stever tell him to pop on in here.....it is just basketball after all.

Hooper, the team coming out of the east is the cavs, time to trade in your handle

Haha

The Thomas story has been my favorite thing of the playoffs so far, but my 4:30 wake up call makes me miss almost all of the west coast games. Cannot stand watching the cavs so far, between the over matched opponents and their inability to just bury teams make it unwatchable. I enjoy a good ass kickin in basketball, I know im in the minority on that one. Also the refs always let teams back in, but with the level of suck up and the tanking issue its been on the up lately

people that hate lebron are stupid.

LeBron= top 5 all time. When all is said and done with his career.

Shimmy on

OK pals the Warriors play beautiful basketball

defense offense with passing  sometimes four teammates touch the ball 

I believe the most assists since the showtime Lakers

top ranked in defense top rank in offense tons of fast-break points tons of hustle often almost the perfect motion offense

deal with it

and yes the Warriors choked last year up 3 to 1

and yes LeBron is probably one of the top three best players of all time

in addition to Currys injury it was  he's baiting  of Draymond Green with his testicles did not play well for me

with posting twice bitches

and I doubt Carrie will ever have the press that I Goodfriend Kobe

had on the court one of the greatest players good thing he bought his wife a 10 carat diamond ring after he assholed up t

And fairly early in my bandwagoning since you have to show credentials here I did see the Warriors kick ass on the bullets at the cow Palace for the ring. Going to Oracle or rather the arena for five or eight dollars back in the day was more enjoyable than  today to be honest

They are a great team.  I am from Boston, and a Celtics fan.

GSW are in a different league than the Celtics 17'. 

GsW would smack the celtics around like it's nothing. 

Cavs in 7 again would be pretty sweet. it would  be flat earther kyrie vs flat earther green! 

>> how many of you "hockey fans" have actually played the sport? 

Played...

Coached at the Elite Travel level...

Still play...

Played yesterday.

>>>>It's the same hate Kobe and Jordan got, Turts.

Untrue.   

Kobe got hated because of the rape charge and his giving up in games like a wanker.   Jordan never did that.    Lebron got hate for selling out to Miami AND how he went about doing it.    Durant is getting similar hate but he did have the Announcement.   

I agree Lebron top 5 when all is said and done.   

I've been a casual NBA fan since the Celtics got good in '08.  Been a big Celts fan the last few seasons with Brad Stevens coming to town and the overall positive trajectory for the organization.  I grew up playing hockey so naturally I'm a little biased as to which sport i prefer and know more about.

With that said, I don't hate the Warriors.  I did think it was a bit weak that KD just jumped ship and joined the competition but, I mean, he's trying to win... and I can't blame him for wanting to win.

I think it's kinda lame how overblown little disputes get between the players in the NBA where, in the NHL, there is more contact and trash talking after legitmately every whistle throughout the game.

Different sport- Different culture.

Go Celtics tomorrow night!

I won $1400 on the Super Bowl this year and cashed out $1350; putting $50 on the Celtics to win the Eastern Conference at 6:1 odds.  It's a long shot, to say the least.

I like Curry, I like KD, I like Thompson and the like.

EDIT:  The talking heads here on the local sports talk stations are speculating IT is playing through an injury and doesn't look 100%.  Hope it's not true.  Bradley is already banged up and there's no way we could put up any sort of fight against the Cavs without IT at 100%

The big knock on Lebron early in his career was that he passed the ball at crunch time and passed the ball to avoid being the guy that stuck the dagger in the heart like Kobe and MJ. His legacy was also stunted by his unselfishness during the early years. Can you imagine where is personal numbers would be now if he wasn't such a team player early on?

And him leaving cleveland was a smart move, cleveland surrounded him with a bunch of jabronees that first go round. Since he came back as GM and Player/Coach its now a different story.

I bought a Warriors hat at SFO today because of this thread.

I never used to like them, but the hats are so cool, I'm all in now.

Go Golden State!

>The organization needed a wake up call, and they got it.<<

they got some 1st round pics for sucking ass. then bitched to the commish about c.paul, THEN got love and lebron back.

fuck that son of a bitch.

ha ha no "D" - 'antoni!

Lol @ harden 

can they just give russell the mvp now?

Looking forward to the playoffs starting up again. 

GO WARRIORS!!!

>>>westbrook is the mvp...like he should have been last year as well....

Westbrook is great, but there's a serious flaw in his game... both he and Hardin set new NBA records for most turnovers all time (this regular season), which totally taints his high assist average and should take him out of the MVP conversation:

Westbrook assist average 10.4, turnovers 438

vs

Curry assist average 6.6, turnovers 238

And at 30 points per game, Westbrook did average 5 more points per game than Curry, but Curry was sharing the scoriing with Durant, who averaged 25 per game, and with Klay, who averaged 22 points per game, whereas the second best scorer for OKC only averaged 16 PPG.

I'm not saying Curry should be MVP this year, but it's clear (to me anyway) who is more valuable to their team when it comes to winning.

Kobe didn't want Eddie Jones taking his buckets. He had him traded. 

>Westbrook is great, but there's a serious flaw in his game... both he and Hardin set new NBA records for most turnovers all time (this regular season), which totally taints his high assist average and should take him out of the MVP conversation:<

i disagree.

westbrook has NOBODY on his team other than the tall kiwi dude. He does 99% of the ball handling. If his players can't catch the ball or shoot, you are going to have turnovers. I look at it like this; if you take that 1 player off of the team, then what? GS would still be a playoff team because, honestly everyone on the team is good. OKC should not even have made the playoffs. My NBA fantasy old school league does not count turnovers and shows reliably who the mvp is every single year... i can give you the run down of the top 5 if you care.

eddie was a cool cat slack, but inconsistent as hell. 

These playoffs have been a disaster. They should have just matched up the Cavs and Warriors in a 13 game series and let the rest of the teams compete for 3rd place. 

Also the 3 point line needs to be moved back. Watching players heave up bombs all game long is boring as hell.

>>>These playoffs have been a disaster. They should have just matched up the Cavs and Warriors in a 13 game series and let the rest of the teams compete for 3rd place. 

Love this idea.    

being the worst all time at something as important as turnovers does not equal an MVP.

>Watching players heave up bombs all game long is boring as hell.<

agreed.

golden zzzz's.....

hall, is that in fact the all time turn over record? i dunno

How do people feel about alley-oops?

I think that they're pretty cool....

BTW: I'm still not getting a good sense of how other teams may be more effective, entertaining, or likeable than the Golden State Warriors...

has a player other than kd in sports been beat in the playoffs then immediately go to their opponent in the offseason? 

PU it smells like chicken.

yes, they were talking about it during last night's game (Hardin also went into record territory this season).

Turtle, my understanding is that KD had been considering the idea of joining the Warriors long before the playoffs.  I heard that he and Iguodala got along well when they were on the National Team and that he liked what he heard from Iggy about the Warriors' organization.

Maybe he thought that he could have more fun with teammates like Iggy and Curry, than with the likes of Westbrook et al.

Also, it was no secret that the Warriors were salivating for KD long before the end of the season.

I'm mainly glad that KD didn't go to the Spurs or any other team.

interesting hall, not sure it really influences my decision. would be interesting to look at his TO's last season....

and whatever johnny d. i think its a pussy move.

its like some guy just banged your gf/wife then you go out for beers with him...gross.

was shaq to the lunkers inglorious / pussy?

anyway, no time for laker hate ( or reason) show time is over (except in norcal)

is playing well Boring? interesting read here:

http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2017/5/11/15615560/nba-2017-playoffs-wa...

Jordan, the Biggest Loser for years. Kobe and Shaq, Big-time Losers. Kobe alone? Loser, couldn’t win without Shaq. Dirk: Loser. All the Boston Big 3, Losers. Lebron was the Biggest Loser in modern times, until the Heatles. Even Bird and Magic were called Losers when they beat each other. Actually, I’m not sure Bird was ever a loser, but “Tragic Johnson” certainly was called that. Only when Jordan came in the league to become the Biggest Loser were they both elevated to winners......

uh kobe won 2 rings in a row w/o shaq...

and shaq to lakers pussy?

it may not have been nice of shaq, who im not that big of a fan of....but i dont recall the lakers playing or beating the magic so no....

i get you are a long term non band wagon fan brother. relax....

laker hate is funny. i get it. however laker fans dont really hate other teams....other than the celtics.

having said that, i. thomas is an mvp candidate.

This thread is once again proving that Bay Area sports teams get better play on the black screen than any other.

As well they should.

BTW, I had a nice conversation wth SteveR at TxR last night. He's doing well and is very happy about the Warriors continued success.

And Phil was great as usual. And so was the band. They're getting much better.

It's cool.

GW!

Since Steve R is obviously lurking hard on this thread ill just say it. LeBron will once again embarrass the Warriors and there will be another epic choke. 

nice foul pachulia...

Looks like they're showing a bit more mettle than

some of you folks think they're capable of.

BLAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

WWWS

(what would Wino say)

""The two-step, lead-with-your-foot closeout is not appropriate," Popovich said. "It's dangerous, it's unsportsmanlike, it's just not what anybody does to anybody else. And this particular individual has a history with that kind of action. You can go back and look in Dallas games where he got a Flagrant 2 for elbowing Patty Mills. The play where he took Kawhi down and locked him arm in Dallas and could have broken his arm."

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It really is pointless to discuss what happened yesterday because it will be viewed as partisan whether you believe it was an unintentional foul in a very tense playoff game (you're just a Warriors apologist) or if you believe that Patulia knew exactly what he was doing and did it on purpose specifically to hurt the Spurs best player (you're just a Warriors hater).

Either way, I do love how Popovich plays the media the way Jerry used to play the guitar. I just watched that media session. That guy never talks to the media like that, but today he's SO outraged and goes on & on.

Well played Greg, going HARD at every angle available. That guy doesn't miss a trick; he's stoking the flames of the incident, firing up his home fans & the media, keeping it a distraction for the Warriors, and possibly affecting the way the refs call the next game/s.

He's as good or better than any coach in any sport.

As for the outcome of yesterdays game, it's true that the Spurs were without their best player for about a quarter & a half, but they were leading by over 20 points when he got hurt and the Warriors were without one of their best & most important players for the entire 2nd half. If one player is that important to the Spurs they aren't going to win the series anyway.

But go ahead, cry a river Warriors haters.

(It's funny to me that many of the same people whining today that it was a dirty - i.e. intentional - act are the same ones who are always pining for the days when basketball was played by tough guys who were physical and banged inside the paint and out, not like todays game played by soft perimeter shooters allowed to roam free)

IMO it was an unfortunate, accidental foul made by a hustling but lumbering big man in a physical, very intense playoff game.

But if anyone thinks otherwise that's OK. There are also people who think Trump is doing a good job. 

It so often comes down to which team we root for.

I am rooting for the Warriors, but in my personal defense, back in 2011 when the Giants Buster Posey had his ankle shattered by an out of control rookie in an extra-inning play at the plate, I am on record as arguing long & hard that it was not intentional/dirty, but an unfortunate incident made by playing the game all-out and the way it had always been taught. And that guy was way more out of control than Patulia was yesterday.

Sometimes shit just happens in sports, especially in big moments when players are flying around. But partisan fans will whine no matter the circumstances (the Giants & their fans wanted that player kicked out of the league) while others are able to look at the moment and say shit, that could have been done better but it's just the game being played hard.

Whatever, too bad for the Spurs, who maybe should have moved their feet out of the way a minute earlier when Leonard turned his ankle the first time. They left their feet in the way! That was INTENTIONAL!!!!!!!

At the end of the day, a very good win for the Dubs.

GW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

could have been an accident...

sometimes it happens... however, you need to look at his history, as pop said...

14yr vet knows about closing out under a jump shooter...who was already gimpy.

and yeah, his teammates didn't help as you mentioned.

warriors were getting their asses handed to them, basically until that play. minus parker....and now leoanard...too bad, could have been a series.

you take the troll bate as well as i do buddy.

ps. its a fine line in tough vs. flagrant play.  generally stating, you don't move under a jump shooter or undercut someone in the air. sometimes shit does happen....sometimes your leg flails in the air and kicks people in the nuts....

you can take all my shit as whining if you must, just playing devils advocate against thee zone's largest bb fan club....or against bay teams in general. you know man...

I don't think you're a whiner Turtle, I'm just trying to keep with the theme of trash talk/trolling this thread has going.

Unfortunately I really don't enjoy the trash talk element of being a sports fan. A little good-natured jabbing perhaps, but it all gets tired quick for me.

Looking at the play again I think Pachulia was hustling to contest the shot closely and then turned to run the floor after the missed shot. But he's a big dude and isn't nimble.

It all happened fast and he was looking the other way when he planted his leg to start running. It's pretty clear to me that it was an unintentional if sloppy foul in a hard-fought playoff game his team was desperately trying to fight back into.

As for how the game was going, the Warriors were clearly rusty and ice cold in the first half (and were missing Iguodala) and the Spurs took full advantage and pounced on them. The Warriors almost certainly would have lost that game without the injury, but even if Leonard hadn't of gotten hurt I doubt it would have been that easy through the series.

But from what I hear from those who know more about basketball than I do, Leonard is the only guy on the Spurs who can defend Durant, so with Leonard out that pretty much gives the freakish ringer Durant an easy time, which is a much bigger problem for the Spurs than losing Leonard's offense.

But this is why the Warriors went so hard to get Durant, so they'd have that extra star scorer when teams could control Curry & Thompson (and when Thompson is more Klank than Klay) and I imagine this is why Durant came to the Warriors, so he wouldn't have to be the one true scoring machine and hero on defense trying to win a championship (living rich in the Bay Area instead of Oklahoma City might have had something to do with it too).

The injury is a shame, but it seems to me that all this just re-enforces my opinion that the NBA regular season is way too long and the playoffs are one series too long. I've been paying attention to the NBA playoffs for four years now, and every year I see just about every team lose impact players to injury. Of course that's going to happen any time the players begin playing so much harder in a playoff situation (Pachulia?) but even the best players who aren't hurt seem worn down by this point. Is it a battle to see who's the best team, or does it end up being more a battle of attrition and luck?

Either way,

Go Warriors!

Go Warriors!

So... Minus a W's melt, they would be on a simple three peat.   Guess you could say the same thing about a Jordan Bulls 8-peat minus Mike's baseball fetish. 

This year (just like the last two) comes down to Lebron v. W's.  It'll be another great finals.  

Difference is KD.  It was as significant as Lebron's move to South Beach. KD's move to the Bay = championship(s). 

Period. 

No worries though Turtle...  The ping pong balls will fall in our favor tomorrow and the gold/purple will rise again. Just as the stars, sun, etc...

I hope Cleveland wins again. The Bay Area belongs in a decades long championship drought. 

Go Dodgers! 

i hope we don't over pay for mid-ling "stars" vagrant...

no worries lance. i think there should maybe be 75 games...and less or no back/backs. not to mention adding 7 games instead of 5 for 1st rounds... i also feel this way about other sports, like baseball...

i was mildly annoyed by the modern warrior resurgence, but not that much, like...better the w's than like 80% of other teams....until kd packed his little kiddie backpack and migrated. i mean, well all those other dudes that went to miami basically did the same thing...

tnt

2/3 say dirty.

^Are two of those Shaq and Sir Charles?

PS: Mom trumps basketball, so I didn't watch the game.  So, I have nothing to say about the game, other than I can't believe the Warriors came back from 25 points down.

Hope that this is a wakeup call for the Dubs (I still can't get used to that name).

yes, it was shaq and charles..."big men"..

Go Celtics!

I've lost some respect for Popovich as a person... dude's being a total hypocrite. 

And I don't believe it's just to play the media or get in the Warrior's heads, I think he's truly outraged, yet here he is defending one of the worst offenders all time:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/05/gregg-popovich-zaza-pachulia-rant-kawhi-leonard-injury-bruce-bowen-dirty-player-foul

And here's Bruce Bowen showing how it's done intentionally:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oMYfmcWdmo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdxXvkMB6gA

Warrior's interim coach Brown quote:

“And then like at the 7:23 mark, a couple plays (after the Leonard play), Steph shot the ball, and LaMarcus Aldridge went to contest, and he went up underneath Steph and Steph avoided landing on his ankle by falling to the ground. And I even asked two of the three officials, I said, ‘Hey, that’s the same call that you just called on Zaza.’ And both of them told me that the difference was Kawhi landed on Zaza’s foot. Steph avoided landing on LaMarcus’ foot, and that’s why they didn’t call (the foul)…"

So because Steph has learned to fall down rather than land on a defender's foot (whether the foot is there intentionally or not), that's somehow not a foul on the defender??  What the fucking fuck NBA (and Popovich)?

Seriously, if you actually watched Warrior's games (and not just ESPN highlights), you would see that this shit has been happening to Curry in every game for as long as he's been in the league, yet these "manslaugherous" defenders are rarely even called for a foul, much less called out by the opposing coach (or the Zone or 2/3 of those polled on TNT, lol).

A perfect example is from the 2014 playoffs where he was mauled by 2 defenders, neither of whom gave him landing space (and no foul was called)... this could have resulted in a serious injury that could have cost the Warriors their title, but I don't remember anyone but Warrior's fans being outraged:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1--R5TyhUw

I guess chalk it up to hate being a funny thing...

Whatever

GO WARRIORS!

yeah bowen was a known guy.....

like zaza....

you don't actually watch the games, do you?

i think you can see zaza feeling for the where to place his foot. dude knew what he was doing. he also has a history...

i hope KD never wins a championship. 

yes i watch games.

pyramid, we can be viva pals....

yes i watch games.

pyramid, we can be viva pals....

Mark clearly doesn't appreciate professional competition.

Should the Warriors have played terrible again, like they did in the first half of the first game, just to appease the judges of decorum?

The Warriors play hustling, selfless team basketball on offense and always great defense, and that's the best way to play in any sport, and that's the best type of team to root for.

Funny how many folks look to hate greatness.

The Warriors are just too good, and clearly the Spurs are a one-trick pony, and that doesn't cut it in the big leagues.

But the Warriors will need the very important Andre Iguodala when they play a true competitor.

Go Warriors!

Matt Barnes beat up Derek Fisher for fucking his ex wife. 

What I saw from the first game was the Warriors playing their one trap game, the one where after a long break they would be slow, stiff and ICE cold on their shots, the one they'd lose that would give everyone some blank ammo about the series.

The game where one of their most important players was limited to only 10 first half minutes. The very important player who didn't play at all tonight.

I saw a team that was all those things come back from more than 20 down late in the third quarter to win a playoff game. 

Oh, the big star wasn't on the court?

I saw the better team win.

The better team is winning.

But keep trying Mark.

>>>The Warriors play hustling, selfless team basketball on offense and always great defense, and that's the best way to play in any sport<<<

You got nothin' Mark.

They're just damn good.

In all the best ways.

But look ahead, the tackle your team drafted looks good.

But that doesn't start until August.

Go Warriors!

it's gonna be great when the warriors lose again to lebron. 

just great. 

and if lance knew anything about basketball he'd know the spurs are indeed true competitors. 

^agreed. 

don't talk shit on d. fish...

we got some luck w/ #2 pick.

ps. fuck steve nash.

i didn't watch the game, why would i?

ball to lakers? 

ball i guess. we'll see what boston does, as they don't need a pg...

i want to smack his dad in the mouth though. jesus.

You getting a big baller brand flat brim turtle?

...

>>>If Lance knew anything about basketball, he'd go look up the scoring differential in this series with and without Kwahi Leonard on the floor.

yeah, well, if the people who cling to that simplistic thought process knew about recent NBA history, they would know that a Durant-less Warriors team came back from being down 22 against a healthy Kawhi AND Parker at the end of the regular season (with home court advantage still up for grabs).  

But keep on hatin', bustin' balls for their choke in 2016, and for signing Durant... the Warriors feed on that shit. 

>You getting a big baller brand flat brim turtle?<

yeah, its a dodger cap. 

designer team hall.

oh except for the frankenstien thug zaza....well every finese team needs one...

Mark nice thread keep on fluffing it along it's going to last at least six more warriors games

and he may be one of the top five best players of all time but when his turn comes this time LePrawn is going to get barbecued

And yes San Antonio has been special for a long time in their coach one of the all-time great's scruffy Gruffy direct and great

And not only will the dubs be way healthier Mr. Green won't let him manipulate the refs again

 Keep up the strong work heathen

"Saint" Mark: what is the seeding for this tournament?

did I miss something?

St. Mark in his best Sir Charles voice

"they soft"

I know it's satire. irony and pushing buttons

basketball has evolved, it's not about the big man no more senator Barkley

at least he gets a nice salary for being a big dumb hater or bafoon

Mark, the Spurs won the first game of the season, and then again when GS and SA rested their starters... not nearly as telling as the 22 point comeback game with home court throughout at stake.

cling on, man

>>>designer team

What does that even mean?  And Draymond was the biggest thug going until Zaza stepped under Kwiah, yet they're "soft"... Like Joel said, it's the same tired shit that's being spouted by talking heads and repeated on social media all over the country. 

draymond is a bully thug, but has skills....meathead, not so much.

Turts, you're "sports" projecting... this team was 'designed' in large part by a great Laker to be like the great Laker teams. 

Maybe consult Fo6 about what spirit animal road kill can guide you to this truth.

great laker teams had flash but also lunchbox players....

also 1/2 of GS's roster defected or left $$ on the table to come play there. its an all-star super star team. 

Lance tries to hide the fact that he knows nothing about basketball by overwhelming us with long narratives that nobody reads. 

Mark, we're talking specifically about comebacks, and the Warriors very recently proved they could come back from a huge deficit against a healthy Spurs' team.

Turtle stooping to Barkley-esque hyperbole. very sad.

they wouldn't have comeback w/o durant. 

en vogue....

but they have really really good regular seasons....

Buffalo Bills, Mark.

It sounds like what you're saying is without their one guy SA gets blown

away like they are in a Texas tornado. Too bad they don't have more depth.

very probably, Pyramid, but what's your point (other than playing the 'if' game)?

If Curry and Bogut weren't injured in last years finals, the Warriors would have won.  If Lebron hadn't dragged his junk across Draymond's face, the Warriors would have won. If Irving hadn't been injured in the 2015 finals, the Cavs would have won.

If if if...

Mark, by winning one championship, they have already passed the hapless Buffalo Bills (as Local points out)... if they lose again this year, they will be more comparable to the 90s Braves.

http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/curry-durant-green-allnbateams-20170518...1009-3500-7270

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