Many of the songs I don’t care for now I certainly liked as a 17 year old at my first few shows, and many of the songs I hated by the time I hit my 20’s I now don’t hate any more.
Passenger fits in the first category and Victim falls into the second.
Tough finding one right off the bat. Anything Vince I guess. Never enjoyed Bobby sabotaging a great jam like Litte Red Rooster by playing slide. Whoever told him he was any good at it should be shot. Jerry sure was one tolerant soul. Victim + Picasso Moon when Brent was still bringin it were always show highlights for me.
Tennessee Jed.
Back in 72 -73 when I went to my first shoes, they played this tune 4 out of every 5 nights.
Though they played it differently every time, this song doesn't exactly lend itself to opening up.
ymmv
The later songs (post In The Dark) are too easy, virtually none of them work/ed for me. A couple of more traditional, often played GD songs that immediately come to mind are...
Dupree's & Ship Of Fools.
Tennessee Jed used to fit this category as well until I realized that Phil would subtly play the shit out of that song, and once I began focusing on him I began to enjoy it much more.
It was cruel and unusual punishment for all the trippers (and pretty much anyone else in attendance) at Laguna Seca '88. People just stood there, dumbfounded. Biggest WTF moment ever.
I liked Corrina, Way to Go Home, and Samba ... but when the Wave to the Wind and Shoe Fits came along, not so much.. but the song that was a buzzkill for me was...
Watchtower... to me at the time nothing could surpass Hendrix's version. I just couldn't get into it.
And Knockin on Heavens Door. Other than the first time I saw it on 6-30-87 with the Neville Bros it was a sign to head to the lot as soon as it started .
According to Grateful Dead guitarist Bob Weir, this may be the worst song the Grateful Dead ever recorded. While speaking to music journalist/musician David Gans, Weir named the song when asked about any "spectacular failures of judgment," adding, "I didn't actually write that one – it just sort of happened. But it sure as hell didn't happen right.
Despite the low regard for "France," it was released as the B-side to "Shakedown Street."
Robert Hunter wrote the song's lyrics while Hart wrote the music, with Weir wrapping up the final arrangement.The original conception of the song was very different from the final product. In the book Box of Rain, Dead lyricist Robert Hunter writes: "'France' was written to tapes of a joyous afternoon Latin jam at Mickey Hart's ranch, the same jam that spawned 'Molly Dee' and 'Northeast by West.' It was recorded by the Dead with abbreviated lyrics and a very different feel. The first four-and-a-half verses [referring to the lyrics printed in the book] appear on the album Shakedown Street."
As presented in Box of Rain, the song originally contained 13 verses, which seems oddly epic for a tune that doesn't seem particularly complex or philosophical, unless of course there's something profound coiled deeply in the words. Otherwise, it seems to just talk about how nice it would be to be in France where the women perpetually dance, and how nice it is to be in love.
Top of the list, Day Job...ouch. I remember as they worked that into the repertoire, it hurt. Lyberty and Victim never caught my fancy but the angular jams in Victim could go places. Revolutionary Hamstrung Blues and Wave To The Wind fell flat and Minglewood, 76 and 77 versions were great but go bored with it after they reworked it for Shakedown Street.
Forty years from now, will some doe-eyed finsters who have just discovered Dead music, look at some of us remaining veterans of Grateful Dead shows and say "You caught a Samba?"
I liked the Space>Werewolves>Music Never Stopped to start the Halloween, 1985 show the only show they ever played in South Carolina. It was the first Werewolves since 1978. Certainly one of their best versions.
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 04:30 pm
Samba in the Rain tops the
Samba in the Rain tops the list for me.
Long long long long long long long long waaaaaaaay to go home is up there too
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 04:34 pm
Way To Go Home
Picasso Moon
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 04:43 pm
Many of the songs I don’t
Many of the songs I don’t care for now I certainly liked as a 17 year old at my first few shows, and many of the songs I hated by the time I hit my 20’s I now don’t hate any more.
Passenger fits in the first category and Victim falls into the second.
But always hated Queen Jane
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 04:50 pm
Tough finding one right off
Tough finding one right off the bat. Anything Vince I guess. Never enjoyed Bobby sabotaging a great jam like Litte Red Rooster by playing slide. Whoever told him he was any good at it should be shot. Jerry sure was one tolerant soul. Victim + Picasso Moon when Brent was still bringin it were always show highlights for me.
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 05:54 pm
Ramble
Ramble
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 06:02 pm
Eyes of the World
Eyes of the World
Some great jams but the lyrics are corny.
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 06:04 pm
Over time I've come around to
Over time I've come around to all of them. I don't skip any songs anymore even Way to Go
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 06:10 pm
Tennessee Jed.
Tennessee Jed.
Back in 72 -73 when I went to my first shoes, they played this tune 4 out of every 5 nights.
Though they played it differently every time, this song doesn't exactly lend itself to opening up.
ymmv
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 06:14 pm
France
France
Antwerp's Placebo
Far From Me
Sunrise
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 06:41 pm
not a jed fan really...
not a jed fan really...
eyes jr? eyes?!
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 06:43 pm
Jr likes rap lyrics.
Jr likes rap lyrics.
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 06:51 pm
Wave To The Wind
Wave To The Wind
If The Shoe Fits
What, what, what?! Really, Eyes? Jed? Ramble?
Those are some of my favorites to hear/sing.
Kezar '73 version of Jed excels!
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 07:11 pm
Childhood's End didn't make
Childhood's End didn't make the cut, either, but I do love Pink Floyd's song by the same name.
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 07:19 pm
I Will Take You Home
I Will Take You Home
Baba O'Riley
Easy To Love You
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 07:27 pm
Wave To the Wind and Samba
Wave To the Wind and Samba would've fared better if Jerry actually learned them. He pretty much always sounded lost or slightly out of tune.
I still think Way To Go Home was the BEST of the last batch.
eemov*
France is pretty awful.
Liberty? Meh. I like Hunter's version better.
*everyone else's mileage obviously varies
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 07:38 pm
The later songs are too easy,
The later songs (post In The Dark) are too easy, virtually none of them work/ed for me. A couple of more traditional, often played GD songs that immediately come to mind are...
Dupree's & Ship Of Fools.
Tennessee Jed used to fit this category as well until I realized that Phil would subtly play the shit out of that song, and once I began focusing on him I began to enjoy it much more.
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 08:28 pm
Good points Bluest.
Good points, Bluest.
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 09:07 pm
cosmic charlie
cosmic charlie
crazy fingers
all non-jam songs @ post jerry shows
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 09:27 pm
France should have been on
France should have been on Heaven Help The Fool.
Well, not "should"... but, y'know.
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 10:03 pm
Dark Star post Jerry
Dark Star post Jerry
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 10:21 pm
Gentlemen Start Your Engines
Gentlemen Start Your Engines
It was cruel and unusual punishment for all the trippers (and pretty much anyone else in attendance) at Laguna Seca '88. People just stood there, dumbfounded. Biggest WTF moment ever.
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 11:04 pm
The ponderous and over
The ponderous and over produced Terrapin Station. Even live, sheesh.
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 11:43 pm
I liked Corrina, Way to Go
I liked Corrina, Way to Go Home, and Samba ... but when the Wave to the Wind and Shoe Fits came along, not so much.. but the song that was a buzzkill for me was...
Watchtower... to me at the time nothing could surpass Hendrix's version. I just couldn't get into it.
And Knockin on Heavens Door. Other than the first time I saw it on 6-30-87 with the Neville Bros it was a sign to head to the lot as soon as it started .
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on Friday, December 20, 2019 – 11:43 pm
I liked Corrina, Way to Go
Double post sorry
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on Saturday, December 21, 2019 – 12:51 am
Doin that Rag
Doin that Rag
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on Saturday, December 21, 2019 – 07:58 am
I am unfamiliar with songs like Samba in the rain, last show was in 93 and i only saw a handful of shows in 92-93.
My vote goes to Built to Last, Sugaree, Corrina,
Covers...Little Red Rooster, Walkin Blues, Mighty Quinn
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on Saturday, December 21, 2019 – 12:55 pm
Way down in the south of
Way down in the south of France.....
According to Grateful Dead guitarist Bob Weir, this may be the worst song the Grateful Dead ever recorded. While speaking to music journalist/musician David Gans, Weir named the song when asked about any "spectacular failures of judgment," adding, "I didn't actually write that one – it just sort of happened. But it sure as hell didn't happen right.
Despite the low regard for "France," it was released as the B-side to "Shakedown Street."
Robert Hunter wrote the song's lyrics while Hart wrote the music, with Weir wrapping up the final arrangement.The original conception of the song was very different from the final product. In the book Box of Rain, Dead lyricist Robert Hunter writes: "'France' was written to tapes of a joyous afternoon Latin jam at Mickey Hart's ranch, the same jam that spawned 'Molly Dee' and 'Northeast by West.' It was recorded by the Dead with abbreviated lyrics and a very different feel. The first four-and-a-half verses [referring to the lyrics printed in the book] appear on the album Shakedown Street."
As presented in Box of Rain, the song originally contained 13 verses, which seems oddly epic for a tune that doesn't seem particularly complex or philosophical, unless of course there's something profound coiled deeply in the words. Otherwise, it seems to just talk about how nice it would be to be in France where the women perpetually dance, and how nice it is to be in love.
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on Saturday, December 21, 2019 – 01:03 pm
Stagger Lee
Stagger Lee
Dupree's
Looks Like Rain
Wheel
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on Saturday, December 21, 2019 – 02:10 pm
Dough Knees Mighty Swell
Dough Knees
Mighty Swell
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on Sunday, December 22, 2019 – 12:44 pm
I actually like the song
I actually like the song France.
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on Sunday, December 22, 2019 – 04:11 pm
Top of the list, Day Job..
Top of the list, Day Job...ouch. I remember as they worked that into the repertoire, it hurt. Lyberty and Victim never caught my fancy but the angular jams in Victim could go places. Revolutionary Hamstrung Blues and Wave To The Wind fell flat and Minglewood, 76 and 77 versions were great but go bored with it after they reworked it for Shakedown Street.
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on Sunday, December 22, 2019 – 05:42 pm
I like France too,Joe every
I like France too,Joe every few years when I listen to the Shakedown st album.
I like Gilbert Sheldon's (sp) album art.
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on Monday, December 23, 2019 – 09:16 am
France is certainly nowhere
France is certainly nowhere near the top of Hunter's work, but it could have been an alright tune if they had used a dif. arrangement.
Bring up Weir's vocal, turn down Donna, and get rid of the "French" sound. Make it more like Eyes meets Music Never.
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on Monday, December 23, 2019 – 11:56 am
Forty years from now, will
Forty years from now, will some doe-eyed finsters who have just discovered Dead music, look at some of us remaining veterans of Grateful Dead shows and say "You caught a Samba?"
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on Monday, December 23, 2019 – 01:11 pm
"You caught a Samba?"
"You caught a Samba?"
Yeah, but I took a Jack Straw>They Love Each Other and it cleared right up.
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on Tuesday, December 24, 2019 – 03:57 pm
Dont ease me in
Dont ease me in
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on Tuesday, December 24, 2019 – 06:47 pm
Never trust a woman
Never trust a woman
werewolves of London - is their really a good one
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on Wednesday, December 25, 2019 – 02:11 am
I liked the Space>Werewolves
I liked the Space>Werewolves>Music Never Stopped to start the Halloween, 1985 show the only show they ever played in South Carolina. It was the first Werewolves since 1978. Certainly one of their best versions.
https://archive.org/details/gd1985-10-31.sbd.miller.23590.sbeok.shnf
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on Wednesday, December 25, 2019 – 02:33 am
10-31-85 whole show video:
10-31-85 whole show video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6goQJlywAM8
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on Wednesday, December 25, 2019 – 10:58 am
China Cat Fancy
China Cat Fancy
Lady With A Fancy