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I just did something I thought I'd never do: paid $7.99 for a month of Disney+ so that I could watch the new Beatles film Get Back by Peter Jackson. Anybody else watching?

Will be checking it out tonite or Saturday. That rooftop concert from Let It Be movie is one of may favorites, and now we get to see 30-40 minutes of the shoe not seen before (Episode 3 of 3, I would guess).

Watched the first episode in the wee hours last night, high on tryptophan, booze, and original glue (44%)

Loved it...   the archival footage is nothing short of amazing!  It was put together masterfully!  

Tells a very different story than the cliche rumors from over the decades, really looking forward to the next 2 chapters. 

(there is a relationship between 2 of the band members i'd love to talk about, but need to see the entire thing first, and don't want to do any spoilers)

watched most of the first episode yesterday, my wife is house/pet sitting for friends who have all the streaming services.

we both lost it when they started plating the 'Harrisong'.

 

Paul dominated Part 1. He was the one arriving on time, figuring out chords, scatting out words to songs.

John very quiet for the most part. George a bit bitchy , tired of being the 3rd wheel.

It's only a Northern Song. Maybe we'll find out why Isn't it a Pity and other songs didn't make it on 

Let it Be but in hindsight worked out well for George.

 

I saw the film Let It Be once about 40 years ago, and I remembering it being darkly lit with quite a few scenes of bickering band members There's still some bickering in this new take on that old footage, but lots of moments of levity and the cinematographic shadows have been banished by digital technology, I'm guessing.

The first ten minutes or so recap the band's early history in a fairly comprehensive fashion for what it is, and establish the film's rhythms and approach before depositing us in Twickenham Studios in January 1969. There's not much continuity here. There are lots of jump cuts and abrupt changes between camera angles, and the music is often quite fragmented too. The calendar structuring helps a lot as a superstructure.

But then in the midst of these fascinating fragments, a  prolonged conversation will take place, and musical phrases will get worked out, over and over at times, which was kind of odd to watch knowing what the many of the tunes would eventually become in their final form. And the scene of McCartney summoning the song Get Back into being is a real revelation. He knows there's something there and chases it over and over again, while his band mates George and Ringo watch on before being taken up and drawn into by the music that is being being born. We're a fly high on the wall overhead in the moment of creation.

I'm only halfway through the first episode and I'm captivated already. Best eight bucks I've spent in a long time, and probably for a long time to come.

Part 2 - Everyone's in a better mood. With their backs to the wall The Boys become semi-efficient.

George smokes a lot more cigarettes.

Some of this footage is incredible.

Oh WTF

Streaming Only  !!! @@#@!!@  What kind of shit is that ?

I got no stream to tv shit goin on, I'm old school, I just got rid of my rabbit ears like 2 years ago. 

Looks like I have to wait till its released on blue ray.

Those who get it, enjoy + fill us in please.

Oh WTF

Spend $16 and get the Beatles show plus the new season of Star Wars.

I let my Disney subscription lapse after finishing the Mandalorian, but will probably re-up tonight for the Beatles and the new Boba Fett series.   Will probably also get a subscription for Paramount+ for the new South Park movies.

They will get you one way or another but I am not going to let $16 stand between me and the Beatles.

I get 4 Disney channels but not Disney+. 

It's not even offered on my cable system (Spectrum). Cant even pay per view it. 

And Alabama just pulled out a victory so I'm damn near inconsolable at this point.

I tried to watch it during Thanksgiving evening, but there was still a lot going on with family in the room, so I couldn't hear much of the dialogue.  Will try again at home, perhaps tonight.  I'm not sure if I really need to hear every "reality show" interactions between the boys, though I enjoyed what I saw regarding the introduction & evolution of some well-loved tunes.  My Dad was a huge Beatles fan and yesterday marked the 5th Thanksgiving without him.  I think that he would've wanted to watch this.

A few days ago, my friend shared this link from Rolling Stones Magazing, August 2020:

https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/beatles-inside-breakup-50-years-lat...

Those who get it, enjoy + fill us in please.<

Whoa, whoa!  No spoilers!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

cheeky

 

 

Set list?

Sorry to hear about dad Johnny.

I've never seen betelgeuse sparkle so intense as it has the past few nights, really since Get Back has been broadcast,, maybe your dads love of the band is helping fuel it's brightness. 

A bit overindulgent.  Thru part 2.  Think they could have gotten the point across in half the time.  How much rehearsal can you listen to?

Love this behind the scene look at their creative genius and stumbling blocks. Mad respect for Paul for herding cats and getting the songs completed. 
 

Drama alert:


 

while it was sweet seeing John's love for Yoko it must've been incredibly weird for the others to have have her constantly around when they were working. Yeah, she was John's 'muse'.. whatever. I'm sure the others had partners that knew to respect boundaries...we've all heard the stories but seeing it unfolding is fascinating.

> How much rehearsal can you listen to?

I can listen to quite a few rehearsals apparently. I'm finding it fascinating to be able to watch/listen-to the development of so many songs that I've loved for so many years. Imagine for a moment what it might have been like if we had video of the GD rehearsing for hours and hours in the late 60s.

I'm about halfway through Part 2, and I have to say that there is a real sense of drama on several fronts here even though we all know pretty much how the story ends. I have some work to do today, but I'm going to finish the second episode before I get busy, and then will likely watch Part 3 this evening.

Seeing Paul banging out Get Back when Lennon was late is priceless! 

The candidness of George talking about how he's not good at keeping the solos going and developing them (like clapton) was eye opening.   I was amazed at the barrage of shit he took from Paul, reacting with "I'll play whatever you want but I don't think you know what that is".  

Yoko reading a newspaper sitting in the circle while they were trying to work out songs was just distracting, even to John.  

Good stuff for this Beatles fanatic!

I want to add here (and I hope it's not seen as a spoiler), that the addition of Billy Preston about midway through the second episode is a real turning point for the music. I never realized the true extent of his contributions, and in some ways I don't think I'm going to hear Beatles' music from this era in the same way again after watching this film.

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I second Mike's thoughts about Billy Preston being added to the mix. Things fell into place as the often do with a player that is a work horse keyboardist. They know what to play and what not to play after about 10,000 hours on the road with all sorts of people. Two moments that really made me grin was when one of The Beatles said asked if he would like to join the group? You could just see Preston's wheels turning...should I continue playing for anyone that can pay me so I can eck out a living or should I join the biggest group in recorded history and get a steady pay check? Hmm.....

The second grin came when he realized that they really weren't asking him to join The Beatles and asked, "When do I get paid?" 

Finished all 3 segments last night, that was a lot of rehearsals to watch, lol.  All in all, amazing quality footage for that era, for any band (or event).  Each episode had it's own personality, as you'd expect, since they go day by day thru the month, and it's rough in the beginning (both music, personalities, etc), but gets better as time progresses (rough sketches of songs, vs completed versions).  It's definitely heavy on Paul;  his songs, his opinions, his approach(he's probably the one wanting it filmed, lol).  I'd be curious what wasn't filmed.  Some bring up Yoko but Linda was there most the time too.  Watching Paul and George debate tunes in the first episode was fascination (glad George got his way in the end on one of them).  Also loved watching John goof off through the entire show, lots of humor and improv.  George and Ringo seem shut out of the process a bit but fortunately that changes in the 3rd episode (George and Ringo working out a Ringo song before Paul/Linda show up, etc, yes Paul wasn't always there first).  

All in all, an amazing journey thru a month in time of the Beatles (I was never a huge fan, rebelled against them and a lot of pop when I was younger, still knew all the albums / songs, just didn't own any).  Really glad I watched it, now i've got Beatles songs stuck in my head, lol....

I didn't realize that the other episodes are available...

Ras: Thanks for your kind post about my Dad.  I miss him, but that's OK.  Thanksgiving reminds me that I'm now the Patriarch, as evidenced that I'm the one who now carves the turkey (my soon-to-be 14 year-old participated a bit, which is heart-warming).

 

I'm looking forward to catching the next two episodes.  And am also interested in taking "Let It Be - Naked" for another spin.

Is there any Abbey Rd material in there ?

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Lots (lots of covers of all kinds of material too)

Very revealing footage. The audio conversation in the cafeteria between John & Paul is pure gold, and really gets to the heart of the matter. My only contention is that the music itself takes a back seat to the narrative - even though it's about The Beatles making music. There are virtually no complete takes of anything rehearsed, even though we get multiple takes of parts of many songs. Even the rooftop concert is treated as part of the timeline 'story', and suffers from frenzied audio and video editing - not to mention the closing credit sequence, treating the performances as an afterthought. This isn't really a concert film, though, it's a documentary, and that's fine, but the original 'Let It Be' film has complete performances, and stands on that merit alone. I hope when the bluray comes out, the rumored 6 extra hours of footage will give a proper nod to the actual music, and not just the process of creating it in bits and pieces.

How someone didn't pick up that awful Yoko Ono and toss her in the closest river, is a testament to English restraint. McCartney was a saint to let that go on. 

 

 

I think I heard them jokingly call Linda 'a Yoko' when she overstepped. 

 

 

Tatters, did you see the part where Paul and Linda brought their daughter Heather into the studio? Heather's about 4 or 5 and seems to have a fully-developed sense of how adorable she is. While there are some scenes where her cuteness absolutely shines, there's a section where the band is playing and Heather is banging away on Ringo's drum kit, while Ringo patiently keeps drumming. It's for that reason that I think Ringo should be the one nominated for sainthood.

There's also a scene where Heather takes a mic and starts wailing ala Yoko that generates more than a few raised raised eyebrows, and there's a brief reaction shot of Yoko too.

I dunno Mike, I think there's a wide difference between a child having a little fun and let's say, a grown woman purposely inserting herself in the band circle between John and Paul, reading a stupid newspaper, while they are composing music. She ain't dumb. It's all calculated and insidious. 

 

Further proof of John's insecurities, always needing Yoko so close by.

Hell of a thing properly documenting the end of this band. 

Would love to see Jackson do the same thing for the wild n crazy beginning days in Hamburg. Even if he had to use still photos to tell the story, ala Ken Burns civil war. I wonder how much film exists from the early 3 guitar assault days.

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> She ain't dumb. It's all calculated and insidious.

I don't disagree, Tatters, but I'm still having a hard time seeing Sir Paul in terms of sainthood.

Considering Paul and George originally didn't want to go up to the roof

they sure had a good time once they got there.

 

 

It's interesting to see McCartney lapping this band mates in the songwriting department. He was in such an amazing composing groove that even John Lennon was being left in the dust. Watching him develop these iconic songs is fascinating. 

This also reinforces how unique and special the Garcia and Grateful Dead relationship ended up being from a tenure perspective. He always found a way to make it work as a band.

 

This link wil take you to the You Tube videos of Stephen Colbert's interviews with Pater Jackson on the making of "Get Back." Good stuff.  

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=peter+jackson+stephen+colbert

Last night, Peter mentioned how The Beatles would play really loud while talking so people couldn't hear what they were saying while being recorded.

Peter had the audio processed and it removed the guitars so you could hear the conversations. 

Haven't seen any of this yet but I look forward to it someday. 

I enjoyed Colberts interview(s) w/ Peter Jackson, agreed, good stuff...     how the Beatles might have survived if Paul had heard George / Johns conversation on solo albums, as George had shown up w/ 8 songs for recording process, knowing only 2 would be picked (per usual).  The movie is definitely Paul-centric...   but I enjoyed watching John's antics.  

The Get Back clip is crazy as is the part when George says he wrote a new song the night prior and proceeds to play I Me Mine. He doesn't have the built out lyrics or anything but the whole song is basically there. Paul then offers a reserved English compliment of "oh it's quite lovely". Ha, that killed me. 

 

 

 

I didn't know one of the kids put the Disney app on our TV. I was quite surprised and watched episode 1. I loved it. Most fascinating. 

It would be hard to watch if not a diehard. 

Amazing being a fly on the wall for the beatles' creative process of songcraft.

Great stuff. should win an oscar

> It would be hard to watch if not a diehard.

I wouldn't call myself a Beatles diehard, but they were my first rock and roll love. I used to dream about them when I was a kid.

I watched the last part of Part 3 last night, and really enjoyed it, as I have with the previous parts. The one thing that surprised me though was the so-called rooftop concert, which I'm now seeing as something of a misnomer. I won't get into details here, but I will say that I'll be thinking of the rooftop thing as more of a recording session moving forward.

Almost definitive count of cigarette consumption

Part 1 - George 22  Paul 12  John 22  Ringo 25

Part 2  George 21  Paul 13  John 30  Ringo 27

Part 3  George 29  Paul 3  John 13  Ringo 22

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Legos!
 

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Just finished part 1 

In the middle of part 2... I'm mesmerized by watching their creative process and also their discussions led by Paul at the top of part 2.

Interesting to witness the Yoko factor.:. Talk about clingy, eww!

Was happy that the songs they happen to be working through are some of my favorites.

The video quality is unreal. Not sure how they filmed or restored this footage but it's as crystal clear as today.

Is this the greatest rock documentary of all-time? It's just amazing and somewhat difficult to compare to anything else. 

The most interesting thing to me was the relationship of the band still seemed really good and history had told us that it wasn't. It was in countless books they barely tolerated each other during the Let It Be sessions, then by the time Abbey Road came out they were essentially solo musicians. John was getting into heroin in late 68/early 69 and wasn't cranking out the classics effortlessly like Paul was doing but I never got the feeling during Get Back he was resentful or was tired of working on Paul's songs.

I suspect during Abbey Road they still got along OK, maybe slightly worse (Paul was the driving force behind the record) but that Allen Klein's involvement was the final nail in the coffin.

i would rather see Yoko perform than Paul McCartney

...and the part where wee Heather McCartney imitates Yoko on the mic? Priceless.

A lot of the stuff online says the world owes Yoko an apology as Get Back is proof she had nothing to do with the Beatles demise. 

And is it true Billy Preston was the breath of fresh air the band needed to get thru those last months, or is that a miscalculation too ? Cuz I love that man. He oozes inspiration. His B3 work on the expanded She's So Heavy is off the hook.

How'd it look to you folks ? 

Billy Preston - Encouraging Words

Billy Preston - Sing One 
https://youtu.be/4FOstMepR-w

Just as the original movie was skewed, assume this is also, just less so.

The lads are very aware of the camera's and mics. These are not normal recording session dynamics

So Yoko being there was no more of a distraction then the tour manager doing leather work, the roadie coming in and out with tea and toast, ect IMO

  •  I think Yoko had just had a miscarriage and they were not in a festive mood starting out the sessions

I felt the uneasiness, like they were in a situation beyond their control, no guiding principle or light.

Little mention of drugs, except by John. And once Paul shut it down quick.

Paul seemed to be flying early, wonder what was on the menu that month?

 

 

 

The liner notes of Billy's album Encouraging Words is a great read if you'd like to invest a few moments.

Encouraging Words
http://albumlinernotes.com/Encouraging_Words.html

I didn't know, or had forgotten Billy Preston had such a horrible death.

Mal Evans shot to death by LAPD was weird to discover.

Yoko just seemed like a very quiet piece of velcro during the whole thing.

Here we are just passed another anniversary of John's murder.

Mal Evans death was a tragedy.

Cocaine is not a cool drug.