"When you listen to the President, these are the musings of an imbecile. An idiot. And I don't use those words to name call. I use them because they are the precise words of the English language to describe his behavior. His comportment. His actions. We've never seen a level of incompetence, a level of ineptitude so staggering on a daily basis by anybody in the history of the country whose ever been charged with substantial responsibilities."
This is the most succinct -- and brutal -- Republican rejection of Donald Trump that you will ever read
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/23/politics/steve-schmidt-donald-trump/index...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: (~)};)StealYourFace WALSTIB
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 06:26 pm
Those Lincoln Project
Those Lincoln Project Republicans sure know how to eviscerate their own...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 06:38 pm
Schmidt is entertaining to
Schmidt is entertaining to watch, but it's important to remember that he worked for Arnold Schwarzenegger and John McCain before Trump came long.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 06:41 pm
So, Ras you are still
So, Ras you are still registered as a republican, right?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 06:41 pm
So, Ras you are still
So, Ras you are still registered as a republican, right?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 06:52 pm
^^^Troll
^^^Troll
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 06:56 pm
Let him answer the question
Let him answer the question JR, you little punk ass bitch
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: (~)};)StealYourFace WALSTIB
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 07:00 pm
Aaron Zelinsky, CURRENT
Aaron Zelinsky, CURRENT Assistant US Attorney testimony Wed @House will be a bombshell...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 07:08 pm
I have seen some of their ads
I have seen some of their ads and they are a pretty scathing indictment of Trump. However, unless you already know what the "Lincoln Project" is, the ads don't really highlight the fact that the criticism is coming from Republicans, which is an important point.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 07:26 pm
>>>Schmidt is entertaining to
>>>Schmidt is entertaining to watch, but it's important to remember that he worked for Arnold Schwarzenegger and John McCain before Trump came long.
It was his decision to bring in Palin when he ran McCain's campaign. He used to hang in my friend group back when most of us were doing door to door fund raising for an environmental group. He was the lone Republican. There were some epic drunken arguments in an apartment on Lincoln.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 07:28 pm
ras gave bolton money.
ras gave bolton money.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 07:37 pm
Timpanzee
Timpanzee
which ape , orangutan ?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 07:40 pm
> It was his decision to
> It was his decision to bring in Palin when he ran McCain's campaign
It's stuff like that that makes it complicated to admire what he's doing now.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 08:00 pm
>>> So, Ras you are still
>>> So, Ras you are still registered as a republican, right? <<<
>>> ras gave bolton money. <<<
There are a few Zoners who've registered as Republicans so they could vote against Trump in their primary. Don't know if this is the case for Ras, or even if he's registered as Republican, but I am reminding you all again that harassing other Zoners doesn't work. I know that all of you are capable of real conversations, smart stuff... do that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 08:14 pm
Raz is a sock. Ignore him.
Raz is a sock. Ignore him.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 08:26 pm
Actually Ras is just a
Actually Ras is just a republican. It is harassment asking someone if they are republican? The answer is no, it's just a question. He doesn't have to answer it. Now run along back to your captain seat, Judit. You are losing control of the helm.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Blue Rose Task Force Rock And Roll Goddess
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 08:53 pm
Timpane needs to run along,
Timpane needs to run along, and get a fucking life.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 08:57 pm
Were you friends with Raz
Were you friends with Raz when he used a different handle on the old zone, rRG?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 09:03 pm
Asking questions isn't
Asking questions isn't harassment, but calling JR a little punk ass bitch and giving judit shit for calling you on yours surely is, Timpane. You should heed RRG's advice, or change your strain at least.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 09:37 pm
My concerns are about
My concerns are about harassment aren't solely in this thread, nor simply about people asking questions.
Folks are here fucking with other Zoners, and instead we could help each other through the morass of current times. We're all in this together, right? We need each other to rise up, sort of like getting out of quicksand.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Strangha Slickrock
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 11:05 pm
The is from a local paper in
The is from a local paper in Utah a day or so ago. Looks like quite a few demos answered the recent urgent call from demo leaders and switched in order to vote in the repub primary.
"Since April, the number of active registered Republican voters in the state has jumped by nearly 74,000, while the number of Democrats has dropped by nearly 9,800, and the number of unaffiliated voters is down by more than 43,600. During the same time period, the number of active voters in the state has gone up by just over 19,300. "
Some folks won't understand pragmatism, but that's OK. I don't care what they think. After waiting for two hours in the cold to vote for Bernie, I switched in May of 2016 in order to influence the repubs in Utah. Dems have no voice here. The dem primary is open to all, the repub primary is only available to registered repubs.
I get to vote for the least objectionable candidate for governor (Huntsman - though he' s still terrible, the others are horrendous), get to oust a slime bag Attorney General in favor of a moderate repub who's in favor of criminal justice reform and has a damned good chance of winning, and I get to help pick my democratic congressman's weakest opponent. If that's a problem for some, oh well.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 – 11:19 pm
>>>>>Dems have no voice here.
>>>>>Dems have no voice here.
Where do they have a voice?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 12:09 am
This second set will be some
This second set will be some nuttiness
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Strangha Slickrock
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 12:11 am
The House of Representatives,
Knot, the House of Representatives, and soon the President, and maybe, just maybe the Senate. And many states, too.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 12:36 am
Slick, why don't you move to
Slick, why don't you move to a beautiful blue state like California that listens to your voice?
My district is blue.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Strangha Slickrock
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 09:21 am
Might listen to my voice but
Might listen to my voice but it would empty my wallet. And it ain't near as pretty as Utah. Overpopulated besides.
While I am an activist politically, there's also choices to be made as to how you let politics and government policy affect your life. And ways to mitigate that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 09:22 am
By Mike Edwards definition
By Mike Edwards definition of harassment, JR calling me a troll is harassment. I disagree that but Mikey boy you can do me a favor and mind your own business. No one as speaking to you.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 09:38 am
To some of the modern Zoner
To some of the modern Zoner Progressives, any other political affiliations (short of Marxist and Socialist), are all the same: Republicans. There's no point in arguing it.
Most Millennials tend to suck at Zoning, though they think they have it down pat. It's pretty funny.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 09:39 am
vomit. vest.
vomit.
vest.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Rasputin O'Leary Rasmataz
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 09:40 am
When the list is reduced to
When the list is reduced to constant tit tat retribution for perceived slights, it's a sad day for all. How about a genuine effort to discuss topics posted, not just verbally assault the one making the post. I feel you got all them bernie bro frustrations, but try, you can be civil.
Respect judit's gangsta,,,,, oops over the line again.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 09:45 am
I don't entirely disagree
I don't entirely disagree with the first part of your most recent post, Timpane, although I do think JR's word choice is a milder form of harassment than yours, but that's just me. As for the second part of your post, as you well know, this is a public forum and anyone can pop in anytime and post just about anything they want, but here's the thing: by your own definition, I'm allowed to engage with you on this now since you've spoken to me.
Also, "you can do me a favor" reminds me of Trump's dealings with Ukraine. Why would I do you a favor though? What's in it for me?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 11:54 am
It's a public forum>>>
It's a public forum>>>
lol, exactly. Oh and stop " harassing" me brah.
So Ras, are you registered republican? You don't have to answer if you don't want to but I'm just curious.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 12:08 pm
This thread is making me
This thread is making me nostalgic for the microaggressions and passive aggressiveness of the old zone. At least those tactics had style.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 12:16 pm
So in the future to help with
So in the future to help with your own ignorance, I don't support Bernie Sanders for a president or any kind of political office. He had some good ideas but ultimately he got chewed up and spit out just like everyone else. This time he didn't even really try that hard. He saw his out and took the money and fucking ran. Watching him endorse Biden is just gonna be sad. Politics still just a bunch of corporate zombies doing the best bidding and ass kissing they can and they go as far as their almighty dollar takes them. It's like "Hey let me see how good I can sound" or "how good I can pose for a picture" and "let's em see how many social media followers like my posts". None of that does jack shit for anybody. Glad Bernie made some bank though this time around. Guy should just retire
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 01:13 pm
My ignorance runs deep. Most
My ignorance runs deep. Most of the time I don't even know what I don't even know.
I contributed to Sanders' campaign in 2016, and ponied up again for him this go round, along with Harris and Warren. I thought his campaign this time was an mostly exercise in vanity; he got screwed by the DNC in 2016 and I think he wanted to make a run without their interference. Where Biden is concerned, I'll cast my vote for him in November, but I'm not happy about it, and his campaign won't see a nickel from me. I think folks need to set their idealism aside for pragmatism during dire times like these, but that's probably also a big part of the reason we're in the situation we're in now. We need real change, but other than the 99% finally doing the math and taking up pitchforks against the 1%, I just don't see that happening anytime soon.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GDTRFB StrawBud
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 01:18 pm
No shit. This statement seems
No shit. This statement seems widely popular these days:
"Where Biden is concerned, I'll cast my vote for him in November, but I'm not happy about it, and he won't see a nickel from me."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GDTRFB StrawBud
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 01:22 pm
I got on his e-mailing list
I got on his e-mailing list because I sent him a blunt message about how out of touch he is and that he needs to listen to people whom are smarter and less arrogant than he is and now the pussy just keeps begging for more money. No surprises there. Maybe he should scale down and quit trying to live like a successful rock star and eat some reality. He is lucky tRump is his opponent but he still might fuck it up.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 01:37 pm
The last four post before
The last four post before straws last were pretty impressive
string work Tim and mike
straw Was ok too
Not that my opinion matters just reacting
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 01:39 pm
Oh ya I was going to post and
Oh ya I was going to post and remembered why I was here
trump needs to fucking wear a mask. Disgraceful vanity
More importantly Trump should wear a muzzle. And just shut the fuck up
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 01:54 pm
What's timpy crying about now
What's timpy crying about now? Don't have the time to read his grievances.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GDTRFB StrawBud
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 02:15 pm
Good luck, Slick - keep it up
Good luck, Slick - keep it up! While living in UT, I switched from Unaffiliated to REP in order to vote against Hatch in a primary...to no avail. It would be a nice outcome if you can help bounce that tool AG, Sean Reyes, as well. I still cant figure out how he got to that spot....oh yea, except his BYU law schooling and other obvious "local ties". I hope Huntsman wins too. He was a very good Governor back when and even though he and other landscapes have changed he is strongly the best current candidate.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GDTRFB StrawBud
on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 – 02:18 pm
....and I mitigated the lame
....and I mitigated the lame affect of UT politics and government on my life by getting the fuck outta there.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Blue Rose Task Force Rock And Roll Goddess
on Thursday, June 25, 2020 – 08:48 am
P heat with a swing and a
P heat with a swing and a miss...
Derp.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, June 25, 2020 – 09:17 am
>> I sent him a blunt message
>> I sent him a blunt message about how out of touch he is and that he needs to listen to people whom are smarter and less arrogant than he is <<
Yes, I'll have the irony burrito smothered in smugness...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GDTRFB StrawBud
on Thursday, June 25, 2020 – 10:23 am
Cool - that comes with a side
Cool - that comes with a side of shit sandwich too. Enjoy!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Rasputin O'Leary Rasmataz
on Thursday, June 25, 2020 – 10:40 am
Hey red states, how's that cv
Hey red states, how's that cv-19 workin out for ya ? Oh huuuuuuge numbers of cases on the rise, healthcare facilities on the way to being overrun, base voters dying ? Why ? Because your dumbfuck idol won't wear a mask so neither will you. Dumbfuck is as dumbfuck does. Expand your voter base by killing em off, bold strategy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GDTRFB StrawBud
on Thursday, June 25, 2020 – 11:05 am
"...Alabama is no New York or
"...Alabama is no New York or Louisiana" so on played the band. 'Doh!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, June 25, 2020 – 11:07 am
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Strangha Slickrock
on Thursday, June 25, 2020 – 11:38 am
I used to think Huntsman was
StrawBud - I used to think Huntsman was pretty good. He has a world view. He liberalized liquor laws and sold it to the mo's as pro business and tourism.
But then a friend recently informed me that when he became governor, he and his chief of staff Jason Chapputz, yes THAT Jason Chapputz, purged democrats from state jobs.
This time around, he is coming out as supportive of "the occupant", in favor of a boondoggle water project (pipeline across the desert from Lake Foul to St George) on an already over-allocated Colorado River that will cost the state taxpayers dearly so St George can keep growing in the desert without conserving water, he's in favor of the Inland Port Project which will screw air quality for good in the Salt Lake Valley, and an enviro friend just told me he's in favor of transferring federal public lands to the state.
And that's who I get to vote for, the LOR - Least Objectionable Republican. Hold my nose and hope one of the more horrendous candidates don't win.
Good chance Reyes might lose. 42% undecided in a nearly even poll, something like 33% to 33%. Debate last night yields charges of Reyes being on the take, and the evidence seems clear. He took in almost a million buck in the three years he WASN'T running and it's gone. Took $$$ from people he was investigating. Said he'd return it, but all of a sudden it was "gone".
Glad these folks can go to church on Sunday and repent.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GDTRFB StrawBud
on Thursday, June 25, 2020 – 11:51 am
Wow. That is all fairly
Wow. That is all fairly interesting, Slick, and unfortunate. Sounds like Huntsman is pandering to the lowest common denominators there but, yea, I still hope he wins because any of the alternatives are exponentially worse. I know the new prison and Inland Port debacles are just a couple examples. Enjoy The Ride because things are surely Going To Hell In a Bucket.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GDTRFB StrawBud
on Thursday, June 25, 2020 – 11:52 am
....I keep reading about the
....I keep reading about the 'canyon proposals' which will very sadly lead to even more nonsense.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, June 25, 2020 – 12:17 pm
Thanks for being my biggest
Thanks for being my biggest fan, JR. I'll see you soon in the next thread when you stalk and analyze every word that I post.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Thursday, June 25, 2020 – 01:52 pm
mike e, thank you. You speak
mike e, thank you. You speak my language.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: (~)};)StealYourFace WALSTIB
on Thursday, June 25, 2020 – 03:09 pm
Biden Now. Calm, rational,
Biden Now. Calm, rational, informative, compassionate.
PRESIDENTIAL...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, June 25, 2020 – 03:13 pm
Biden Now. He's not as fucked
Biden Now. He's not nearly as fucked up as Trump is.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: (~)};)StealYourFace WALSTIB
on Thursday, June 25, 2020 – 11:52 pm
Those Honest-Abe Project guys
Those Honest-Abe Project guys at it again...
https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1276112782187003904
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, June 25, 2020 – 11:54 pm
You gotta love it when they
You gotta love it when they turn on their own. It's like political cannibalism.