Too bad Flynn’s kid won’t be going to jail, he was one of the retards pushing the insane “pizzagate” bullshit.
This is awful news for the Trump crime family though, kind of like when Big Pussy was wearing a wire on the Sopranos trying to get Tony busted. It’s not going to end well for Donnie.
Surprised Trump didn't preemptively pardon Flynn before he could be pressured into flipping. Wonder if we will start seeing pardons of other top officials before they are hauled away by the FBI?
Ken, you would know better than me, but isn't that scenario more legally permissible if it was outside the Trump orbit? Since the investigation is involving his staff, his family, etc, couldn't a pardon of that nature be viewed as potential obstruction?
I haven't seen the actual names, but according to ABC News, the very senior official directed Flynn to reach out to the Russians regarding an upcoming UN vote on Israeli settlements in the West Bank. Wonder who else that could be?
-This is not a meet-in-the-middle deal. Both sides did not assess their risks and decide to hedge them with a compromise.
Rather, as we’ve known for weeks, the special counsel, Robert Mueller, believed he had sufficient evidence to indict Mr. Flynn on a long list of criminal charges, including money laundering, tax offense and false statements.
-This is much bigger than Paul Manafort.
Unlike Mr. Papadopoulos, though, Mr. Flynn was a top adviser who was at the center of all communications with Russia as well as the potential obstruction of justice by President Trump in seeking to shut down the Flynn investigation itself.
-Mr. Flynn has just become the prosecution’s star witness.
In the interim, Mr. Flynn has to do anything Mr. Mueller’s team requests.
-The charge Mr. Flynn is pleading guilty to is a stunning one. He is admitting that last December, before Mr. Trump’s inauguration, he asked the Russian ambassador at the time, Sergey Kislyak, to refrain from reacting aggressively to sanctions that the Obama administration had imposed on Russia. Russia reportedly agreed and Mr. Kislyak told Mr. Flynn later that it had chosen to moderate its response to the sanctions to make nice with the Trump team.
-It seems that President-elect Trump himself directed Mr. Flynn make contact with the Russians.
If Mr. Flynn testifies to this — ABC’s Brian Ross is reporting that he will — it presents another impeachable offense along with the possible obstruction of justice.
Even more, it brings the whole matter well outside the purview of the criminal courts into the province of a political scandal, indicating abuses of power arguably well beyond those in the Watergate and Iran-contra affairs.
-Mr. Flynn asked Russia to intervene at the United Nations on behalf of Israel.
He is admitting that last Dec. 22, he asked Mr. Kislyak to delay or defeat a United Nations Security Council resolution condemning Israel for its settlement policy, which the Obama administration had decided to let pass.
-The lying is bad.
Conducting rogue American foreign policy is worse. In the end, Mr. Flynn’s lies are secondary to the demonstration that the Trump administration was actively undermining American foreign policy before it took office.
-Mr. Flynn’s cooperation portends extreme peril for a variety of people in the president’s orbit.
Most immediately vulnerable? Jared Kushner.
-Mr. Flynn’s plea raises the likelihood that he will give testimony in support of a potential obstruction of justice charge against Mr. Trump.
The basis for the possible obstruction charge against the president has been his efforts to get the F.B.I. director, James Comey, to shut down the Flynn investigation during a Feb. 14 meeting in the Oval Office, coupled with his multiple lies on the subject. Obstruction is plainly an impeachable offense:
-Mr. Trump’s defenders have fewer and fewer cards to play.
There had been a prospect that the obstruction of justice charge, if it did come, would be dismissed by die-hard Trump supporters as subject to conflicting interpretations of Mr. Trump’s state of mind, and therefore not deserving of impeachment or removal. No longer. Now Mr. Trump and his circle will stand accused by a former member of the administration with plainly unconstitutional meddling in the most sensitive of foreign policy issues.
If the Congress and country believe Michael Flynn’s account, it is hard to see what even the staunchest Trump defenders can say in defense.
That means that as Mr. Trump and the administration look out at the new landscape featuring a guilty Michael Flynn, it’s kill or be killed.
(The above text was edited from the URL - not my words)
Well, if Kushner was giving Flynn the orders, Mueller might be able to bring up the Donald's son in law for violations of the Logan Act (and lying to the FBI). Trump won't be abe to help himself from attempting to obstruct justice on those charges.
I just wish they could somehow nail that bastard Pence with something.
Few folks in 2017 thought the Republican party would get this unhinged and this autocratic. It was obvious they had these leaning back then, hell these leanings go back at least 30 years. But boy are they currently fulfilling their potential as a true autocratic party. Dems inside the beltway better grow a stiffer spine and get much bigger balls real quick.
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Lock Him Up!
Lock Him Up!
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Jared is next.
Jared is next.
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The prediction is that he
The prediction is that he will plead guilty in about an hour.
The belief is that this means that Flynn is cooperating with Mueller.
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How much time do you think he
How much time do you think he'll get?
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I bet that by pleading guilty
I bet that by pleading guilty to one count of lying to the FBI, and cooperating with Mueller, is getting him off of a lot of other potential charges
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Lol Thom.
Lol Thom.
Your boy hires the best people.
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Didn't think it was possible,
Didn't think it was possible, but he's acting more insane every day.
And I don't think it's an act.
28th Amendment anyone?
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where has the little shithead
where has the little shithead racist been anyway? thom, you out there?
have you stopped wearing your maga hats yet? of course he hasn't, you shameless fuck.
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great. People that cut deals
great. People that cut deals always make the most believable witnesses.
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I love watching FOX news
I love watching FOX news trying to polish this turd!
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smarmy fuck
smarmy fuck
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Too bad Flynn’s kid won’t be
Too bad Flynn’s kid won’t be going to jail, he was one of the retards pushing the insane “pizzagate” bullshit.
This is awful news for the Trump crime family though, kind of like when Big Pussy was wearing a wire on the Sopranos trying to get Tony busted. It’s not going to end well for Donnie.
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https://twitter.com/ABC
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/936628560374071296
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Flynn:
Flynn:
"I've agreed to cooperate with special council"
"Actions I acknowledged in court today were wrong"
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>How much time do you think
>How much time do you think he'll get?
zero
a friend of mine had the same charge and got nothing
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What charge is that?
What charge is that?
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ask martha stewart
ask martha stewart
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derp
derp
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger
Hey Brochacho what was the
Hey Brochacho what was the charge your friend was brought up on because I can’t find a mention of what Flynn was charged with
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i thought when someone pleads
i thought when someone pleads guilty they are charged
my friend was charged with lying to the FBI he fought it and lost
appealed and lost
cost him 50,000 but no jail
is that good enough
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Surprised Trump didn't
Surprised Trump didn't preemptively pardon Flynn before he could be pressured into flipping. Wonder if we will start seeing pardons of other top officials before they are hauled away by the FBI?
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but but but he was a Obama
but but but he was an Obama appointee.
Trump: Who's Mike Flynn?...
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Ken, you would know better
Ken, you would know better than me, but isn't that scenario more legally permissible if it was outside the Trump orbit? Since the investigation is involving his staff, his family, etc, couldn't a pardon of that nature be viewed as potential obstruction?
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Presidental pardons don't
Presidential pardons don't apply to co-conspirators...
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https://twitter.com
https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/936640546742980608
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Here's the Flynn charges etc.
Here's the Flynn charges etc...
https://www.lawfareblog.com/michael-flynn-plea-agreement-documents
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>is that good enough
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no shit
no shit
but its the same charge
thats all im saying
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Kushner IS 1 of 2 Very Senior
Kushner IS 1 of 2 Very Senior Officials named.
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chaco,
chaco,
How is this going to affect bitcoin?
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Didn't think it was possible,
Didn't think it was possible, but he's acting more insane every day.<<
Before this is over, Trump is going to out-"crazy' Chin Gigante.
Melania! Where's my robe?
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>>>Kushner IS 1 of 2 Very
>>>Kushner IS 1 of 2 Very Senior Officials named.
I haven't seen the actual names, but according to ABC News, the very senior official directed Flynn to reach out to the Russians regarding an upcoming UN vote on Israeli settlements in the West Bank. Wonder who else that could be?
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Best Friday of the year:
Best Friday of the year: Politically Speaking!
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/opinion/michael-flynn-guilty-plea-tak...
-This is not a meet-in-the-middle deal. Both sides did not assess their risks and decide to hedge them with a compromise.
Rather, as we’ve known for weeks, the special counsel, Robert Mueller, believed he had sufficient evidence to indict Mr. Flynn on a long list of criminal charges, including money laundering, tax offense and false statements.
-This is much bigger than Paul Manafort.
Unlike Mr. Papadopoulos, though, Mr. Flynn was a top adviser who was at the center of all communications with Russia as well as the potential obstruction of justice by President Trump in seeking to shut down the Flynn investigation itself.
-Mr. Flynn has just become the prosecution’s star witness.
In the interim, Mr. Flynn has to do anything Mr. Mueller’s team requests.
-The charge Mr. Flynn is pleading guilty to is a stunning one. He is admitting that last December, before Mr. Trump’s inauguration, he asked the Russian ambassador at the time, Sergey Kislyak, to refrain from reacting aggressively to sanctions that the Obama administration had imposed on Russia. Russia reportedly agreed and Mr. Kislyak told Mr. Flynn later that it had chosen to moderate its response to the sanctions to make nice with the Trump team.
-It seems that President-elect Trump himself directed Mr. Flynn make contact with the Russians.
If Mr. Flynn testifies to this — ABC’s Brian Ross is reporting that he will — it presents another impeachable offense along with the possible obstruction of justice.
Even more, it brings the whole matter well outside the purview of the criminal courts into the province of a political scandal, indicating abuses of power arguably well beyond those in the Watergate and Iran-contra affairs.
-Mr. Flynn asked Russia to intervene at the United Nations on behalf of Israel.
He is admitting that last Dec. 22, he asked Mr. Kislyak to delay or defeat a United Nations Security Council resolution condemning Israel for its settlement policy, which the Obama administration had decided to let pass.
-The lying is bad.
Conducting rogue American foreign policy is worse. In the end, Mr. Flynn’s lies are secondary to the demonstration that the Trump administration was actively undermining American foreign policy before it took office.
-Mr. Flynn’s cooperation portends extreme peril for a variety of people in the president’s orbit.
Most immediately vulnerable? Jared Kushner.
-Mr. Flynn’s plea raises the likelihood that he will give testimony in support of a potential obstruction of justice charge against Mr. Trump.
The basis for the possible obstruction charge against the president has been his efforts to get the F.B.I. director, James Comey, to shut down the Flynn investigation during a Feb. 14 meeting in the Oval Office, coupled with his multiple lies on the subject. Obstruction is plainly an impeachable offense:
-Mr. Trump’s defenders have fewer and fewer cards to play.
There had been a prospect that the obstruction of justice charge, if it did come, would be dismissed by die-hard Trump supporters as subject to conflicting interpretations of Mr. Trump’s state of mind, and therefore not deserving of impeachment or removal. No longer. Now Mr. Trump and his circle will stand accused by a former member of the administration with plainly unconstitutional meddling in the most sensitive of foreign policy issues.
If the Congress and country believe Michael Flynn’s account, it is hard to see what even the staunchest Trump defenders can say in defense.
That means that as Mr. Trump and the administration look out at the new landscape featuring a guilty Michael Flynn, it’s kill or be killed.
(The above text was edited from the URL - not my words)
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Noose is tightening. Jared is
Noose is tightening. Jared is next. Hold onto your hats.
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Best Big Friday Surprise EVER
Best Big Friday Surprise EVER.
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Ken - http://www.msnbc.com
Ken - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/michael-flynn-former-nati...
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yes ender lol ;)
yes ender lol ;)
im obsessed with btc and crypto
just like i was obsessed with lsd and the grateful dead
just like you're obsessed with weightlifting and schooling people on the internet
but whats wrong with making some easy money?
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Well, if Kushner was giving
Well, if Kushner was giving Flynn the orders, Mueller might be able to bring up the Donald's son in law for violations of the Logan Act (and lying to the FBI). Trump won't be abe to help himself from attempting to obstruct justice on those charges.
I just wish they could somehow nail that bastard Pence with something.
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I think there will be a lot
I think there will be a lot of complicity.... problem is, if enough of the bad guys leave, Orrin Hatch takes charge...
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>>> I just wish they could
>>> I just wish they could somehow nail that bastard Pence with something.
They will, he's part of the cover up. (Lying, wittingly/unwittingly)
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>>> problem is, if enough of
>>> problem is, if enough of the bad guys leave, Orrin Hatch takes charge...
Very good point.
Part of the cover up. Lyin' Ryan directed Nunez to take INTEL directly to Trump, while avoiding the House INTEL Committee.
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rich people don't go to jail.
rich people don't go to jail...
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"When the history of the
"When the history of the Trump administration is written I think Russia will be in the first paragraph" Michael Gerson
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https://www.axios.com/abc
https://www.axios.com/abc-corrects-bombshell-trump-report-2514195655.html
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Hard time.
Hard time.
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Hard time = manfort, who lied
Hard time = manafort, who lied to Mueller after agreeing to cooperate.
NO time = Flynn, who cooperated for two years and provided “substantial assistance”.
Assistance on what?
Stay tuned.
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Mike Pence is up to his
Mike Pence is up to his albino eyebrows in this.
~Sean Kaminsky~
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>>>>NO time = Flynn
>>>>NO time = Flynn
Hey do you guys remember when Trump fired Comey? Trump asked Comey to “take it easy” on Flynn, Comey said “no” and Trump fired him.
Then Mueller took over, and Flynn might get no jail time! So Trump got what he wanted after all.
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It's genius, really.
It's genius, really.
Stable Genius.
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Mueller! We got him!
Mueller! We got him!
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funny ghow innocent we were
funny how innocent we all were back in 2017
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Few folks in 2017 thought the
Few folks in 2017 thought the Republican party would get this unhinged and this autocratic. It was obvious they had these leaning back then, hell these leanings go back at least 30 years. But boy are they currently fulfilling their potential as a true autocratic party. Dems inside the beltway better grow a stiffer spine and get much bigger balls real quick.
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> Few folks in 2017 thought
> Few folks in 2017 thought the Republican party would get this unhinged
There were signs along the way. Birtherism. People's United. Merrick Garland. And that's just to name a few.