fda approves cholorquine as covid19 treatment, sandoz makes 30mil doses for national stockpile

liddle - clinical trials take years. if we follow the standard procedures for phase 3 clinical trials and fda approval, we wouldnt have any sort of treatment or vaccine for this for many, many years.

think about how long MAPS has been trying to get fda approval to treat ptsd with mdma.

there are only 2 options - do not treat coronavirus with drugs at all, or treat coronavirus with drugs that have not undergone clinical trials.

you spent the last thread ignoring medical literature by defaulting to the fact that its not fda approved - now its fda approved.

this is a question and issue that goes beyond coronavirus - should critically ill patients have access to potentially life saving treatments that have not undergone proper clinical trials and fda approval? if they will likely die anyway, why not try? this could apply to surgical procedures, physical treatments and medical devices as well as drugs.

https://omny.fm/shows/philadelphia-s-morning-answer-with-chris-stigall/p...

CHRIS STIGALL:If you’re a doctor listening to me right now and a patient with coronavirus feels like they want to try [Chloroquine] and you’re their doctor, you’re not Anthony Fauci the guy running the coronavirus task force, would you say ‘alright, we’ll give it a whirl’?

 

DR. ANTHONY FAUCI: Yeah, of course, particularly if people have no other option. You want to give them hope. In fact, for physicians in this country, these drugs are approved drugs for other reasons. They’re anti-malaria drugs and they’re drugs against certain autoimmune diseases, like lupus. Physicians throughout the country can prescribe that in an off-label way. Which means they can write it for something it was not originally approved for. People do that all the time, and it really is an individual choice between the physician and his or her patient as to whether or not they want to do that.

Second, your threat title is misleading, there is no evidence chloroquine works.

the thread is not claiming there is clinical evidence it works - the title just says the fda approved it for use, which is an objective fact. here is the EUA issued by the FDA - 

https://www.fda.gov/media/136534/download

Chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate are not FDA-approved for treatment of COVID-19. Some versions of chloroquine phosphate are approved by FDA for other indications—for prophylaxis and acute attacks of certain strains of malaria and for the treatment of extraintestinal amebiasis, but the chloroquine phosphate drug product covered by this letter has not been approved. Several versions of hydroxychloroquine sulfate are approved by FDA for prophylaxis of and treatment of malaria, treatment of lupus erythematosus, and treatment of rheumatoid arthritis. The safety profile of these drugs has only been studied for FDA approved indications, not COVID-19.

 

Based upon limited in-vitro and anecdotal clinical data in case series, chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate are currently recommended for treatment of hospitalized COVID-19 patients in several countries, and a number of national guidelines report incorporating recommendations regarding use of chloroquine phosphate or hydroxychloroquine sulfate in the setting of COVID-19. FDA encourages the conduct and participation in randomized controlled clinical trials that may produce evidence concerning the effectiveness of these products in treating COVID-19. FDA is issuing this EUA to facilitate the availability of chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate during the COVID-19 pandemic to treat patients for whom a clinical trial is not available, or participation is not feasible.

 

Having concluded that the criteria for issuance of this authorization under 564(c) of the Act are met, I am authorizing the emergency use of chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate, as described in the Scope of Authorization section of this letter (Section II) for treatment of COVID-19 when clinical trials are not available, or participation is not feasible, subject to theterms of this authorization.

since there is not fda approval or clinical trials, i can assume you also do not believe cannabis has any kind of medical benefits and should not be recommended or prescribed to anyone for any kind of medical condition?

sorry - "approved" is not the right term, use for covid19 treatment has been "authorized"

This letter is in response to your request that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issue an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for emergency use of oral formulations of chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate for the treatment of 2019 coronavirus disease (COVID-19) when administered by a healthcare provider (HCP)1 pursuant to a valid prescription of a licensed practitioner as described in the Scope of Authorization (section II) of this letter.

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Having concluded that the criteria for issuance of this authorization under 564(c) of the Act are met, I am authorizing the emergency use of chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate, as described in the Scope of Authorization section of this letter (Section II) for treatment of COVID-19 when clinical trials are not available, or participation is not feasible, subject to theterms of this authorization.

but only an antivaxxer is dumb enough to use BIG  font

Summing up:

1 - insofar as words like "approved" has a very specific meaning when applied to medicine, yes

2 - id say no evidence it works in clinical trials - there is scientific evidence that it works on covid, it is just not enough evidence and not strong enough evidence for the fda to approve it yet, if it does at all

3+4 - yes

as for as COVFEFE-19 goes you might as well be taking a sugar pill........

woz...liddle and i just debated this for like two whole threads, and in a rare moment of internet glory, actually managed to have a productive and enjoyable debate and come to some kind of relative consensus - in both this thread and the older chloroquine thread i posted quite a bit of reputable studies and sources speaking positively about the potential of this drug, including from dr faucci. the issue, as liddle was pointing out, is that there have not been clinical trials to conclusively prove it will be effective or not - we are treading on unknown ground and hoping for the best. the idea that it might as well be a sugar pill is not the current medical consensus.