Donna Sucked

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Unrdeemable.  Had to get that off my chest.  The best thing that happened to GD in 1974 was her maternity leave.

 

Hired as a vocalist, instead we got screaming Yoko Ono shit.

 

Rant over

 

Long live The Grateful Dead.

The Grateful Dead’s best music was made with Keith and Donna in the band. That’s a fact.

1968 thru 1970 have asked Bss to hold there collective beer.  it is debatable but I do tend to agree with you 

My favorite is how some can’t even get passed the 2 second yell in an epic 30 min pitb. Sucks to be u guys

I blame Janis Joplin. Donna was a back up singer at Muscle Shoals and then she moved to SF and tried too much to sound like Janis.

"Donna sucked"

 

lol. Yeah she was out of key a lot of the time. When she was on it really added another dimension to their harmonies though. Phil was really having a tough time keeping up with their harmonic development after American Beauty. I love Keith. Too bad, he got way lost in the sauce. Pretty much was just a body on stage in 78-79. Some great shows still in those years but he was just gone

If it ain't Pig, it ain't Grateful Dead

68-70

maybe it is like you're first girlfriend ...

can't touch being in those moments 

Of course it is very personal

And everyone has an opinion

77 worked too 

 long_live_the_dead 

 

donna had moments where she contributed  and perhaps even elevated...

 

long live mr pig

25min gnarly playin > bat outta hell banshee > playin

If she was good enough for Elvis and Jerry, well.......

 

But she did bring down a lot of highs I imagine.

 

 

What show was the dosed under the piano show? I want to hear that one. I think it was Paris 74?

She was good when I saw her with DSO.  Playing and Music Never Stopped aren't quite the same without her.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brent sucked too. Have a nice day.

Put in Portland 74 and listen to her destroy a fantastic st stephen jam for way more than 2 seconds during greatest story

 

Listen to scarlet. She wrecks the outro every time. Whining like a dying cat.  She sucked. Seriously sucked.  P.S.  Please don't digrace Brent by using him to snark. Listen to 6-20-87 and tell me it isn't a sonic masterpiece. Love 73-74 but we lost the bluesy edge of the organ. They sound thin at times.

glad you got it off your chest op

 

this message board is full of people who dont give a fuck

*thumbs up emoji*

99% of people (plebs like op and 99% of zoners) have shit opinions about music

*toke*

change my mind.

Maybe, maybe not...   but she never had

 

 

 

Camel Joe

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Long live The Grateful Dead.<<yes

Hear, hear.

99%?

99% is about right, maybe a hundred come here. 

And then the one.

She got demonstrably better over the years. The 72 Playins and OMSNs can be brutal, and 73-74 were often rough, but by 76 she was much more in tune and her harmonies were a key part of the sound by 77, both in the GD and the Jerry band.

^^^

UncleSam is right on as usual.

 

ateix, If you feel 99% of the people here have bad taste in music - then why come here? Do you have a fantasy about "educating" the 99%? lol 

Lol at Ateix's inferiority complex.

"That's a fact" - Nope - opinion. - I saw plenty of shows -up close & personal. - She originally appeared on average 2 songs per set - back up vocals- low key. - Then the Playin screech- downhill from there. - Brent was the best thing that happened after that . - Donna sucked- pretty much - yes. - (I hear she's ok now though).

Ok, obviously not a fact. I never saw the band until 1992, so I will add that my opinion is only biased by the following thirty or so years of collecting and listening to their earlier music. 

You can not like Donna if you want, of course that’s fine.

But I do challenge you to point to a more musical time period for the band (than say, 75 - late 77ish) that also did not include donna. And why so?

I’m saying I don’t feel there is one.

Donnas screech vs. Weirs slide guitar?

Jerry didn't think so, considering she was in the GD and JGB... but what did he know about music............

Keith was great - early on ....72 thru 74 ...great years. Kind of a burnout after that many say - looked asleep onstage in the late 70's. ------------ Even Garcia said she couldn't hear herself onstage - hence singing off key way too much.

She was in the band then too, though (72-74). Almost seems we kind of agree huh?

 

I’m just saying their best music was made during the Keith and Donna years...

 

sure, we could nitpick and probably disagree over specific years, months, and particular shows...

 

Would've loved to have seen them when the music was still “new.”

What's  that story about her stage .monitor?

She couldn't hear her voice,  or something?

but keith swallowed !

They already had a pretty girl in the band, not sure why they needed to add Donna.

She sang so much different with the jgb 

^^ Who wears short shorts? Lol

She did get all the to bad in the later seventies.

 

Does not mitigate that at times she destroyed songs during one of the finest periods in the band's history.

 

I've heard that pathetic excuse that she couldn't hear. If a PROFESSIONAL VOCALIST hears herself on recordings and she's out of key;  WEAR HEADPHONES.

 

Long Live The Grateful Dead

After Europe'72 there is no excuse.

Bigoff,  maybe that's what I was referring to.

>>>She was good when I saw her with DSO.  Playing and Music Never Stopped aren't quite the same without her.

I have to second that, but I do remember everybody sort of holding their breath right before her part in anticipation of a train wreck but she nailed it.  

Is there such a thing as musical snowflakes?