I haven't been skiing in 10 years, my buddy asked me if I want to borrow his ski helmet and I was like no and then he said " dude everybody on the mountain Uses helmets these days"
Yes, helmets are just about universal on the slopes these days. Though I never wore one in my youth (nobody but pro ski jumpers did), I think the risk is real and it's probably worth protecting your noodle. If you break your head, there will be nowhere for the drugs to go!
Helmets are for pussies. If you can't ski in control, then you shouldn't be out there. FACT
Opinion, not FACT. There is a lot to be said for helmets. Brain buckets absolutely give more protection to a rather important area of your anatomy (Your anatomy may differ). They are a lot warmer than hats on really cold days. On days where you are pushing the envelope, you are skiing on the edge and not always in control, no matter how good of a skier you are. There are plenty of places that are hairy enough that having a helmet on may save your life. Think cliff bands, tight trees, etc.
But for most people, it's a preference that gives that person peace of mind. If you feel more confident, you usually ski better.
p.s. Since any number of states now demand that minors wear helmets, those people are going to continue to wear them into adulthood. As such, you will see more and more helmets as the years go by.
p.p.s. As for young Jake being the best skier, I'm sure MikeW would argue that is not true.
Long time downhill skier. Grew up skiing in blue jeans with no hat, much less a helmut.
Fast forward many years....my brother was skiing VT sans helmut one day....he "comes to" in the Ski Patrol hut at the bottom of the mountain standing and conversing with the staff. They told him that he had skied down, took off his skis, placed them nicely in the rack, walked in and began a normal conversation with them before he "came to". As he sorted through it, his prior last memory was riding the chairlift. Best he can figure is that the lift clipped him in the head as he skied off it.
He began wearing a helmut that trip. I did and my kids did and do as well.
Fast forward even more years to last Wednesday. I'm skiing Snowbasin in Utah. Please do NOT take this as bragging, but the reality is that I had not fallen in decades and I do not hold back (top speed last week was 62MPH. Cruddy snow, poor visibility and I go down. Left shoulder followed by full upper back and then back of head slams into the ground. I black out for a second convinced I've had a complete yard sale. When I "come to", skis are still on and son is standing over me. Was able to continue that day and rest of week, but shoulder and neck muscles were incredibly sore. Head was fine.
Would add two more things: you get accustomed to wearing them quickly and, during cold or precipitation, they are fantastic. Skied Thursday in near whiteout conditions (14" of new powder) and with helmut and goggles, I was snug as a bug in a ......
Moral of the story, you only get one head. If I wasn't wearing my helmut on Wednesday, I can guarantee that, at a minimum, I wouldn't have been able to ski the freshies on Thursday and Friday. Will gladly take any "pussy" shots.
If I still skied I would probably helmetize these days- I had some close calls way back...one in particular at Boreal Ridge- major face plant near a couple of trees.
Started skiing when I was 4, and don't think I ever had a serious head blow.
Snowboarding is a different story. More than a few time my helmet has kept my brains in my head. Catch a nasty edge at a high speed and you're bouncing off your skull.
JR - sorry to break it to you - but this is my first post in this thread. Who the fuck did you think you were you talking to you completely feeble-minded idiot?
Apparently I will have to add your handle to the list of folks I have blocked with the new ignore feature Judit gave me the code for. Enjoy talking to yourself - which I am sure you do often anyway.
Meanwhile - this is to the sane and reasonable Brian K.
>>Stowe VT is something like $110 a day
Be happy - Aspen is $119.
Besides - if you buy tickets online - Stowe is only $85.
I'm glad you noticed that too, 6. I was scratching my head on that one.
There are quite a few zen moments in downhill skiing. The White Room is one. Perfect spring corn is another. Still, my # 1 zen moment is when you rip through mogels without a thought. It is much akin to flowing water, which is about as zen as it gets.
He has one helmet that the manufacturer made with a cut out for the hawk. That's only for special occasions. Other times it's just a standard helmet. The hawk is set with gelatin, ironed and then finished with hair spray.
I would never not wear a helmut, googles, and at least decent shell / pants material ... simply for having a barrier between you and the elements / terrain. I'm in the trees quite often and you just don't ever want to have to worry about getting poked in the eye, ear, forehead, etc. ... let alone full on blunt trauma (even if ned is correct about "the odds").
I was a super late adopter but after the last couple years of being one of the last holdouts out there, I made the permanent switch to a helmet last year at Steamboat.
First, I'm now a 40-something, no longer a youngster. Secondly, there are morons everywhere. I'm not worried about smacking my head on a tree but the other idiots on the hill might knock me into one...
That, plus you have more to lose as you get older...
Pushing branches out of the way with a helmet gets tighter lines. Twenty years ago today I came to killington for three days of skiing. On day four it dumped. Over four feet that month. Soon I been here so long I got to calling it home. 6 we skied the hellgate chute at stowe two weeks ago over 40" sick. Day 90 today. Looks like snow tomorrow. We got max creek on the 22. Let the games begin
Never wore a helmet, but not a bad Idea. Used to ski as a youngster; places like Hunter, Jay Peak, St. Savêur, Smugglers Notch and various NE places.
The early-mid 1980's I attended McGill in Montrëal and joined the Ski Club. For abooot 20-25 bucks or so you'd get the Magical Mystery Ski Bus, lift ticket and maybe a Box-Lunch. If you could meet the Bus on campus around 6 AM they would take you to the Snow.
The border patrol never checked us out much, maybe opened the cargo door and said "Yeah there's some ski gear there, any Fruits or Vegetables ?"
So I dropped out for a long time, then went Snowboarding in OR mid-90's. Just once as a Lark.
Meanwhile my Nephew got really into the Snowboard sport over 10-12 years, and eventually Bonked his Head w/ a Concussion --- could've killed him. He got really good at it though, instructing and {almost} Pro. The accident put Him on leave for a while.
So just a couple Winters back, I visited Nephew in Truckee/Tahoe region and visited the Ski world. He lived out there and was back on the Slopes again.
He was boarding and/or skiing at various spots that Winter, but it was a very poor Snow year. Mostly he was playing Bass in some bands.
Looks Snowy there at the Donner Pass region, but most areas were pretty dry that Winter. That foto is the day I rode up to the area from East Bay, when it actually Snowed a bit. It had not in quite a while.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 02:03 pm
It's a few days early for
It's a few days early for April Fools.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur AMSaddler
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 02:14 pm
I'm a hold out unless I'm
I'm a hold out unless I'm going big for the day.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: |-|/-\|_|_ Googlymoogly
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 02:44 pm
Sonny Bono says wear your
Sonny Bono says wear your helmet.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 02:51 pm
Don't forget your day-glo uni
Don't forget your day-glo uni-suit.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: |-|/-\|_|_ Googlymoogly
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 02:53 pm
Young Jake was the best skier
Young Jake was the best skier to ever post on the Zone. FACT.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hello My Name Is Jackohearts
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 02:59 pm
Yes, helmets are just about
Yes, helmets are just about universal on the slopes these days. Though I never wore one in my youth (nobody but pro ski jumpers did), I think the risk is real and it's probably worth protecting your noodle. If you break your head, there will be nowhere for the drugs to go!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Richard Cranium Fitzman
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 03:04 pm
Helmets are for pussies. If
Helmets are for pussies. If you can't ski in control, then you shouldn't be out there. FACT
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 03:13 pm
I miss young Jake. We had a
I miss young Jake. We had a weekend in Vegas once. He's tight with Russo.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: bweir I like cheese jklowan
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 03:17 pm
Fitzman do you have an email
Fitzman do you have an email for deadhead ed?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: krab groad1123
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 03:30 pm
Liam Neeson's wife, Miranda
Liam Neeson's wife, Miranda Richardson, might still be alive if she wore one.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur AMSaddler
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 03:33 pm
Helmets are for pussies. If
Opinion, not FACT. There is a lot to be said for helmets. Brain buckets absolutely give more protection to a rather important area of your anatomy (Your anatomy may differ). They are a lot warmer than hats on really cold days. On days where you are pushing the envelope, you are skiing on the edge and not always in control, no matter how good of a skier you are. There are plenty of places that are hairy enough that having a helmet on may save your life. Think cliff bands, tight trees, etc.
But for most people, it's a preference that gives that person peace of mind. If you feel more confident, you usually ski better.
p.s. Since any number of states now demand that minors wear helmets, those people are going to continue to wear them into adulthood. As such, you will see more and more helmets as the years go by.
p.p.s. As for young Jake being the best skier, I'm sure MikeW would argue that is not true.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: |-|/-\|_|_ Googlymoogly
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 03:41 pm
lol
lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 03:41 pm
Most skier deaths result from
Most skier deaths result from blunt force trauma to the torso (organ damage), and not head injuries.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: |-|/-\|_|_ Googlymoogly
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 03:44 pm
I like my helmet speaker
I like my helmet speaker earphones...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: MeditateontheQ LLOLLO
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 03:48 pm
Good thread. To think of all
Good thread. To think of all the years I skied w/o a helmet as a teen.
Hoping to return to skiiing next winter, better look for an end-of-season helmet sale.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Vann Kliburn Lloyd_Klondike
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 03:49 pm
I could ski circles around
I could ski circles around "Young Jake" ....minus helmet
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jon jonnyjonjon
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 04:03 pm
jake is a budding homosesual,
jake is a budding homosesual, and def wears helmets when he never skis anymore, cause he lives in calli....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 04:05 pm
Custies
Custies
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Brennan beast
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 04:15 pm
never been skiing. indoorsy.
never been skiing. indoorsy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: |-|/-\|_|_ Googlymoogly
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 04:28 pm
so then no helmet mountain
so then no helmet mountain biking either?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Markd (not MarkD) Mdono1
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 04:44 pm
Long time downhill skier.
Long time downhill skier. Grew up skiing in blue jeans with no hat, much less a helmut.
Fast forward many years....my brother was skiing VT sans helmut one day....he "comes to" in the Ski Patrol hut at the bottom of the mountain standing and conversing with the staff. They told him that he had skied down, took off his skis, placed them nicely in the rack, walked in and began a normal conversation with them before he "came to". As he sorted through it, his prior last memory was riding the chairlift. Best he can figure is that the lift clipped him in the head as he skied off it.
He began wearing a helmut that trip. I did and my kids did and do as well.
Fast forward even more years to last Wednesday. I'm skiing Snowbasin in Utah. Please do NOT take this as bragging, but the reality is that I had not fallen in decades and I do not hold back (top speed last week was 62MPH. Cruddy snow, poor visibility and I go down. Left shoulder followed by full upper back and then back of head slams into the ground. I black out for a second convinced I've had a complete yard sale. When I "come to", skis are still on and son is standing over me. Was able to continue that day and rest of week, but shoulder and neck muscles were incredibly sore. Head was fine.
Would add two more things: you get accustomed to wearing them quickly and, during cold or precipitation, they are fantastic. Skied Thursday in near whiteout conditions (14" of new powder) and with helmut and goggles, I was snug as a bug in a ......
Moral of the story, you only get one head. If I wasn't wearing my helmut on Wednesday, I can guarantee that, at a minimum, I wouldn't have been able to ski the freshies on Thursday and Friday. Will gladly take any "pussy" shots.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 04:45 pm
Not about condoms?
Not about condoms?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Highnote Stringtwang
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 04:57 pm
Helmet? Yes.
Helmet? Yes.
Sometimes people get hit by OOC skiers. Also rocks become visible again in the spring.
If you think you don't need one, try running head first into an immovable object. How fast can you run? 5-10mph? You'll wish you had one.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fountain Jam Seadoggie
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 05:27 pm
Yes.
Yes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alias botb
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 05:51 pm
My mom bought me one for Xmas
My mom bought me one for Xmas. It's actually surprisingly comfy and I'm looking forward to getting some earphones
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 05:55 pm
How much does skiing cost?
How much does skiing cost?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Vann Kliburn Lloyd_Klondike
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 06:04 pm
If I still skied I would
If I still skied I would probably helmetize these days- I had some close calls way back...one in particular at Boreal Ridge- major face plant near a couple of trees.
Didn't get knocked out but it was bad.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 06:05 pm
Stowe VT is something like
Stowe VT is something like $110 a day. A burger is $17.
Walking, XC and snowshoeing are free.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 06:08 pm
Started skiing when I was 4,
Started skiing when I was 4, and don't think I ever had a serious head blow.
Snowboarding is a different story. More than a few time my helmet has kept my brains in my head. Catch a nasty edge at a high speed and you're bouncing off your skull.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 06:08 pm
6'r sorry to break it to you
6'r sorry to break it to you but skiing in Vermont is not real downhill skiing. What you ski on our hills. We have real mountains.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 06:16 pm
>>Stowe VT is something like
JR - sorry to break it to you - but this is my first post in this thread. Who the fuck did you think you were you talking to you completely feeble-minded idiot?
Apparently I will have to add your handle to the list of folks I have blocked with the new ignore feature Judit gave me the code for. Enjoy talking to yourself - which I am sure you do often anyway.
Meanwhile - this is to the sane and reasonable Brian K.
>>Stowe VT is something like $110 a day
Be happy - Aspen is $119.
Besides - if you buy tickets online - Stowe is only $85.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 06:18 pm
Cross country sounds peaceful
Cross country sounds peaceful and fun. I'm glad my wife hates snowboarding
and doesn't want me to teach our son.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 06:21 pm
Cross country is most
Cross country skiing is most excellent exercise. I live surrounded by woods that are full of cross country (winter)/mountain biking (summer) trails.
Cross country is definitely the more peaceful of the two.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 06:57 pm
Downhill has those zen
Downhill has those zen moments, when you find that line and are one with the mountain.
Cross country is just peaceful, unless you're on snowmobile trails.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 07:11 pm
Hills vs Mountains
Hills vs Mountains
I wear custom gold reflective Bolle goggles.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur AMSaddler
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 07:12 pm
I'm glad you noticed that too
I'm glad you noticed that too, 6. I was scratching my head on that one.
There are quite a few zen moments in downhill skiing. The White Room is one. Perfect spring corn is another. Still, my # 1 zen moment is when you rip through mogels without a thought. It is much akin to flowing water, which is about as zen as it gets.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 07:14 pm
Does Warren Haynes ski?
Does Warren Haynes ski?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jon jonnyjonjon
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 07:35 pm
mm
mm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jon jonnyjonjon
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 07:36 pm
no i do not wear a helmet....
no i do not wear a helmet....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 07:37 pm
Is that a waterfall, Jonny?
Is that a waterfall, Jonny?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur AMSaddler
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 07:43 pm
Helluva lot of float in those
Helluva lot of float in those sticks, Jon.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dan 2Dank
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 07:43 pm
Only the "SPECIAL" people do.
Only the "SPECIAL" people do. You know the jokers that should be up there at all.......
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jon jonnyjonjon
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 07:51 pm
yes a frozen waterfall...
yes a frozen waterfall... and i love my KURU'S!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 07:51 pm
Has Glen Plake ever worn a
Has Glen Plake ever worn a helmet?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur AMSaddler
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 08:05 pm
Has Glen Plake ever worn a
Yes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 08:15 pm
Maybe he ran out of hairspray
Maybe he ran out of hairspray or wood glue.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur AMSaddler
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 08:28 pm
He has one helmet that the
He has one helmet that the manufacturer made with a cut out for the hawk. That's only for special occasions. Other times it's just a standard helmet. The hawk is set with gelatin, ironed and then finished with hair spray.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 09:24 pm
I would never not wear a
I would never not wear a helmut, googles, and at least decent shell / pants material ... simply for having a barrier between you and the elements / terrain. I'm in the trees quite often and you just don't ever want to have to worry about getting poked in the eye, ear, forehead, etc. ... let alone full on blunt trauma (even if ned is correct about "the odds").
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ismelltoadsmoke joe
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 09:26 pm
tried skiing for the first
tried skiing for the first - and last - time when I was 42
ten minutes in and fucked up my back on the bunny slope...and little kids flying by me, some who didn't look old enough to be potty-trained
that was one day when i actually appreciated alcohol
never again..
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 09:51 pm
Helmets?? Come on.
Helmets??
Come on.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 10:37 pm
I do not wear a helmet.
I do not wear a helmet.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Rando Salvador Vagrante
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 11:30 pm
Do zoners ski that much?
Do zoners ski that much?
I was a super late adopter but after the last couple years of being one of the last holdouts out there, I made the permanent switch to a helmet last year at Steamboat.
First, I'm now a 40-something, no longer a youngster. Secondly, there are morons everywhere. I'm not worried about smacking my head on a tree but the other idiots on the hill might knock me into one...
That, plus you have more to lose as you get older...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fred Skitunner
on Thursday, March 30, 2017 – 08:37 am
Pushing branches out of the
Pushing branches out of the way with a helmet gets tighter lines. Twenty years ago today I came to killington for three days of skiing. On day four it dumped. Over four feet that month. Soon I been here so long I got to calling it home. 6 we skied the hellgate chute at stowe two weeks ago over 40" sick. Day 90 today. Looks like snow tomorrow. We got max creek on the 22. Let the games begin
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Thursday, March 30, 2017 – 08:40 am
>>6 we skied the hellgate
>>6 we skied the hellgate chute at stowe two weeks ago over 40" sick
Nice!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Barry bigoff
on Thursday, March 30, 2017 – 12:15 pm
Started wearing one as a role
Started wearing one as a role model for my kids. Soon after had a bad spill. Helmut saved me from a pretty bad injury.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Thursday, March 30, 2017 – 12:16 pm
Never wore a helmet, but not
Never wore a helmet, but not a bad Idea. Used to ski as a youngster; places like Hunter, Jay Peak, St. Savêur, Smugglers Notch and various NE places.
The early-mid 1980's I attended McGill in Montrëal and joined the Ski Club. For abooot 20-25 bucks or so you'd get the Magical Mystery Ski Bus, lift ticket and maybe a Box-Lunch. If you could meet the Bus on campus around 6 AM they would take you to the Snow.
The border patrol never checked us out much, maybe opened the cargo door and said "Yeah there's some ski gear there, any Fruits or Vegetables ?"
So I dropped out for a long time, then went Snowboarding in OR mid-90's. Just once as a Lark.
Meanwhile my Nephew got really into the Snowboard sport over 10-12 years, and eventually Bonked his Head w/ a Concussion --- could've killed him. He got really good at it though, instructing and {almost} Pro. The accident put Him on leave for a while.
So just a couple Winters back, I visited Nephew in Truckee/Tahoe region and visited the Ski world. He lived out there and was back on the Slopes again.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Thursday, March 30, 2017 – 12:27 pm
He was boarding and/or skiing
He was boarding and/or skiing at various spots that Winter, but it was a very poor Snow year. Mostly he was playing Bass in some bands.
Looks Snowy there at the Donner Pass region, but most areas were pretty dry that Winter. That foto is the day I rode up to the area from East Bay, when it actually Snowed a bit. It had not in quite a while.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Thursday, March 30, 2017 – 12:39 pm
So Nephew's Buddy arranged
So Nephew's Buddy arranged for some free lift tickets for us all, and I rented some boards/boots at the shoppe in Truckee, after a Hearty breakfast.
We grabbed some Cold Ones as a "Thank You Note" for the fellow with the x-tra day passes.