Dirty Business In Afghanistan

I'm not so sure the anger is as much about the Evil Russians as it is anger at our leader knowing about the situation (unless you believe he didn't know....?) and apparently ignoring it, all while continuing his subtle and not so subtle support of Putin & the Evil Russians.

All the other stuff about our own dirty hands and the Evil World in general isn't really the point. Yes we're dirty, yes they're dirty, yes it's a dirty world, but the issue is really about the latest example of how our leader isn't just incompetent, he's dangerously incompetent.

And the mental illness doesn't help.

What should he be doing about it? I don't know, but at least SAY something about it, other than denying that he knew anything about it.

And really, at his level I'm sure there is SOMETHING he should have done or should be doing about it.

I would also imagine that very soon we'll be hearing a story of how he secretly & single-handedly had it covered from the start and is doing something amazingly brilliant about it now.

Anyway, I don't think anyone is shocked about the Russians putting a bounty on American heads, but it's still a dirty thing to do and I think many people are wondering why our leader isn't at least publicly ripping HARD on Putin and Russia about it.

Ultimately I don't know anything about these types of things, but I'd bet a nickle that the Russian leader of the time was publicly ripping HARD on the United States when we were funding and enabling that largest covert military operation in history against them. 

Maybe we should vote for him.

We invade which ever middle eastern country has oil and poppies so we can get it for the cheap. We kill rape and pillage where ever we like. We have no moral ground to step on whatsoever. These claims are still "alleged" and are just hot air for the media until they are proven with real evidence that's not "intelligence": "intelligence" are the same phonies who bring us these bogus reasons to infiltrate and destroy for oil and global banking. If it is true it would not at all be surprising seeing that Russia just like any global power wants to impose the same destructive forces that we need do to enhance their economies and leave the Middle East in rubble. 

Vets For Trump membership just got a whole lot smaller

it unreal he continues to piss on the US service men and women, repeatedly yet his base doesn't care or ignores it.

remember the goldstar shit?

how any real "conservative" can support him is mind blowing.

all this by a bone-spur draft-dodging silver spoon fed grifting piece of shit.

So, he’s the most informed person on the planet per his spokesperson and options were ready to act upon per his national security advisers, other world leaders were informed , but ... it was never presented to him?! 

From Heather Cox:

I expected serious pushback today from the White House about the Russia bounty scandal, but their reaction was weirdly subdued. White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany first suggested that the president hadn’t been “briefed” on the story, apparently using the word “briefed” to suggest it only means an oral report, rather than a written one. Multiple sources have confirmed that the information was indeed, in the President’s Daily Brief-- the PDB-- the written document of security issues he receives every morning.

Sources today also confirmed that it was a large money transfer from a bank controlled by Russia’s military intelligence agency to an account associated with the Taliban that alerted intelligence agencies that something was up, and that Trump was briefed on the information. This afternoon, in a press briefing, McEnany changed course, saying that “The president does read and he also consumes intelligence verbally. This president, I’ll tell you, is the most informed person on Planet Earth when it comes to the threats that we face.”

The White House tonight assured us that Trump has now been briefed on the bounty scandal, but while this story has consumed headlines since Friday—four full days ago—he has done and said nothing to condemn Russia’s actions. In a New York Times op-ed today, President Barack Obama’s National Security Adviser Susan Rice points out that instead, Trump has dismissed the evidence as “possibly another fabricated Russia hoax, maybe by the Fake News” that is “wanting to make Republicans look bad!!!” Rice notes that if, indeed, Trump’s senior advisors thought there was no reason to inform Trump of the Russia bounty story, they “are not worthy of service.”

 >>>>>This makes Trump look to be at best Putin's puppet and at worst a traitor.  At the very least, his administration looks weak and impotent.

I'll take "all of the above" for $200, Alex.

 bone-spur draft-dodging silver spoon fed grifting piece of shit.

THIS ^^^^^^  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Putin's stupid, if he was smart he would have just payed the taliban cash like we do when we need their services. Then when they ask for the money we just don't give it to them and invade their country. That's how that shit is done.

or pay in full and then go and get that shit in full like we did with sadam. Easy money boi

We tried to pull that shit with the Vietnamese but they whooped our asses and sent us packing. We just stick to the Middle East now

US Rep and Iraq War vet Seth Moulton on Trump/Russian bounties: “if this is not treasonous behavior, I don’t know what is. If I led my Marines into an ambush because I didn’t bother to read the intelligence report I was given, I wouldn’t be tweeting. I’d be in prison.”

I agree with Timpane for the first time in 7 months. 

why would russia need to pay the taliban to kill us soldiers? arent we fighting a war with the taliban in their home country? havent we been occupying the terrotory they formerly controlled in a bloody, 18 year long war? why would russia need to pay them for something they have been doing for free for the past 18 years?

Uh

because money 

so if the taliban invaded and occupied the USA, you would just be chill with it until russia offered you money to fight back?

the incentive for the taliban to accept the bounties would be money, yes, that makes sense...but i dont see the incentive for the russians to offer the bounties...why would they pay for something that not only the taliban is already doing, but is one of the taliban's main stated goals? killing infidels is literally part of their religion.

i'd be interested to see more evidence for this besides "an anonymous intelligence source said so"...this whole thing reeks of bush era pro war media propaganda...a very troubling claim with no evidence to back it up that is currently whipping up sentiment that trump should have "done something" without specifically stating what that would mean, when obviously the only thing it could mean is ratcheting up military tensions with russia during a time when mccarthyism and aggression is surging among the very same population that used to fight against war and US imperialism in the 60's and 70's. sounds like WMD's all over again.

it wouldnt matter who is putting bounties on who is we just FUCKING LEFT AFGHANISTAN and stopped being imperialist terrorists...like youre gonna strap on a gun, invade another country, kill countless innocent people, destabalize and entire region and then bitch and moan when people want to kill or harm you? get fucked, you made your bed now sleep in it

agreed, dave, and i will check that out tonight over dinner

Gorbachev was praised for his peace overtures to the US at a time when everyone knew that the CIA was basically running the war to oust the Soviet Union from Afghanistan.

I read a book last year called "Bear Trap" that was written by the former Pakistani intelligence officer in charge of funneling US arms and money to the mujahideen in Afghanistan.  Interesting read that details the whole operation. 

Dave, what your suggesting doesn't have any return for oil companies and also it makes too much sense for it to ever happen.