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This is written by a sweet friend of mine in her 30s, posted on Facebook. I've known her since she was 5 or 6. What a terrifying ordeal. I had heard she had "long-hauler" ongoing symptoms but I didn't know what the specifics were. Jeez. Stay safe. Wear a mask.

 

I’m a very private person, but in light of the recent explosive growth of COVID cases and people still not taking it seriously, I feel compelled to share my experience.

I had a presumed COVID infection in March (no testing was available) after travel to the east coast and southern CA, just before the whole world shut down. It was like a really bad flu, but I got better in 2 weeks. I felt lucky.

Then, after fainting out of the blue in late July, I spent nearly all of August and September of this year in bed. Most days I was too fatigued to be upright (even sitting). I had almost daily episodes of what they call ‘brain fog’, which felt like everything was in slow motion and I couldn’t make sense of what was going on. When I tried standing or walking, I would often get lightheaded and feel like I was going to pass out. I had hypersensitivity to lights, sounds, touch, smells (I sometimes even smelled things that weren’t there). I slept a lot. I couldn’t work. My husband provided constant care for me during this time.

After a terrifying month of tests to rule out stroke, seizure, tumor, encephalitis, I was found to have dysautonomia (dysfunction of the autonomic nervous system), specifically a type called POTS. I had never even heard of it, but apparently many people with POTS develop it after a viral illness like COVID. It all started to make sense. Thankfully, POTS can improve with management and some people fully recover. I have improved with lifestyle changes (wearing medical grade compression tights, fluid and salt loading, recumbent exercise, using a shower chair, and a lot of rest), but I’m not back to my baseline by any means. Simply put, when I stand still and don’t engage my leg muscles, blood begins to pool in my feet and hands as my heart rate rises to try and increase circulation to my brain. Within 5 minutes I become short of breath and lightheaded. Within 10 minutes I could pass out. Given my trajectory so far, I believe I will fully recover. In all honesty this is something that I must believe for the moment, so that I don’t lose hope.

When I was struggling in August there was already evidence that COVID affected many organ systems, not just the lungs. However, very little was known about potential long-term effects of COVID for those with ‘mild’ cases. What has become clear in recent months is that my experience is hardly unique (see comment below for some studies/reports). There are larger studies being undertaken now to examine long-term effects. This work will get published eventually. Unfortunately, I fear it will be too late to be useful in making the case for more stringent measures to control this virus. Years from now we may be looking back on the toll of this pandemic in terms of not only deaths, but also chronic illness and disability among a not insignificant number of survivors.

...  just wear a mask, physically distance and avoid gatherings. Vaccines are coming. You do not want to risk it with this virus.

Posted by the same friend:

What is dysautonomia? https://my.clevelandclinic.org/.../dise.../6004-dysautonomia

What is POTS? https://my.clevelandclinic.org/.../16560-postural...

 

For those who like to geek out on the science like I do… At the time I was struggling in August and September there was very little known about ‘long-haul’ COVID except for some studies of hospitalized patients whose recovery after discharge was longer than anticipated. Many of these people had organ damage from COVID/the immune response/treatments given to save their lives.

After I joined an online support group, I found that I was not alone in experiencing issues months after a ‘mild’ initial infection. It was striking how many young and previously healthy people, many from NYC’s first wave in March, were suffering months later. Many (but not all) with dysautonomia, many with POTS-like presentation.

Being the researcher that I am, I began searching for studies of published cases. There have only been a couple case studies:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7471493/

https://covid19.elsevierpure.com/.../new-onset-postural...

There have been numerous reports in the media (just google ‘covid and POTS’). I learned even more from attending a couple webinars this summer and fall where researchers were sharing what they were seeing (as of yet unpublished work).

In November, the CDC finally listed long-term effects on their website: https://www.cdc.gov/coro.../2019-ncov/long-term-effects.html

Starting a new one is fine. Won't get lost in the sewage. 

My sis was admitted to a hospital in AZ with pneumonia in both lungs on Tuesday. Getting better we hope.

Oh, Slickrock, hoping she gets completely better as soon as can be.

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I  have been reading about long haulers. Covid is still a mystery in a lot of ways, and I believe will continue to be for some time. Barely a year old. And the vaccines are going to be somewhat a mystery too. There just ain't no easy answers. It really boils down to each individual dealing with their own situation and making the best decisions possible given the myriad of information. The balancing of public health and economic survival is a puzzle. On the one hand the whole thing is maddening and on the other hand you can bring yourself down to unhealthy levels just stressing. I avoid indoors as much as possible and where an N95 if I have to go indoors. I'm fortunate to be able to WFH. And grateful for music, books, internet, the outdoors, cannabis (although currently on sabbatical due to possible new employment...ugh!!!), this community, and my friends and family. May you and yours find the best path for you and yours!



^^^  fuck dude

 

your post screams at me

now I'm screaming back

 

you are STRONG slick's sister 

you got this

 

Thanks Judit. And Tod. Not sure how her behaviors played a part. 28 others in her church were positive also. SMH. Frustrating that someone with asthma didn't pay more attention. Fingers crossed. 

^the church has/had indoor service? 


find out where you fall in the vaccination line.

 

A vaccine may be around the corner, but how long will it be until you get the shot? Health officials are considering vaccine timelines that give some Americans priority over others. If you’re a healthy American, you may wait many months for your turn.

To put this in perspective, we worked with the Surgo Foundationand Ariadne Labs using their vaccine tool to calculate the number of people who will need a vaccine in each state and county — and where you might fit in that line.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-...

 

here's mine and my wife's

 

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^lol. 

^^Lmao


why is that funny?

 

Here is a clean link as that one didn't work for me

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-...

I'm on the same time frame:

Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind 268.7 million people across the United States.

When it comes to Georgia, we think you’re behind 8.6 million others who are at higher risk in your state.

And in Fulton County, you’re behind 856,700 others.

 

I'm ok with that.  They'll know more about all this stuff by the time I get it.   

 

 


thanks zang 

 

yea we're ok with it also.

 

I might as well chime in.

2 months and I still feel like shit 30% of the time. Shit being, headaches (bad) aches and pain (bad) diarrhea, still no feelings in my left hand and still no smell, I did get my taste back!!!

I'm down to 15% hearing in my left ear only and 100% deaf in the right. Double and blurred vision more and more.

I have gone to many doctors now and they don't know and dn't tell me shit except. It's new and we will see what happens. Fuck, for that I can be a doctor.

The brain fog is fucked. 2 weeks ago I'm standing in the back yard in an ant pile and my wife came out and saw me covered in ants asking WTF. I had ant bites everywhere. Just standing there like an idiot. When my mind goes blank and I snap out of it I am confused, anxious, nervous and scared. The same happens every time I wake up from sleeping. It gets so bad sometimes I breakdown and cry. I don't even know my name or my wifes name from 15 seconds to up to about 3 minutes. It's very scary.

Great weekend, did some yard work, evicted a squatter and went to the park and fished for a lil while. 4pm Sunday I started to get cold and shiver uncontrollably and I got a fever of 102. Aches and pains by 8 pm and then slept till 2pm today. I'm feeling better and I will be fine by tomorrow and then it will repeat itself again in 4-8 day.

Not looking for sympathy, just giving an update and to ask all to keep your spit inside your masks.

 

 

Oh, Tim, it made me cry to read what you're going through. Who could have guessed that there would be such serious and long-lasting sequelae? I'm so sorry.

Hoping for that the symptoms will lessen and abate and that you will fish with abandon. Much love.