Democratic primary and 2020 swing states

Not buying it. Polls are weapons. They cherry pick until the poll says what they want. Again, msm is scared shitless of Bernie and they are using these BS polls against him. There is a huge ground swell for Bernie. He is the only candidate that is not business as usual. He is the only one the corporate overlords a scared of.

VOTE BERNIE 2020!!!!!!!!

 msm is scared shitless of Bernie<<

WTF?

Bernites claim, that the mainstream media is intentionally blacking Bernie out.

^these are facts. the bernie blackout is real. 

What I am really curious about is how the current field of democratic candidates will do against Trump in the key battleground states come November.   I know "polls schmolls" and its a long way to November, but this is not encouraging: 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/473856-poll-trump-leads-2020-democ...

Also read that a majority of people polled in rust belts states oppose impeaching and removing Trump.   There will be some work to do before November.

corporate dems and their sponsors would rather have trump again than bernie.

and fuck that bloomberg schmuck.

bloomberg has spent over 100mil since he announced lol. steyer 87mil  

then bernie @ 8mil  

that's not democracy, and some dems are very happy bloomberg is running. trash. 

on tv ads i meant. 

but keep going, weird steve. bloomberg needs people like you. 

lol

Senator Sanders hasn't had to make many compromises on his morals. President Sanders would have to. I applaud the naïveté that makes a few of you oblivious to this. 

"Brenie is the only one who will do this, and the only one who will do that..." Keep dreaming. At this point in our political evolution, nobody is doing 1/10 of that shit right now. He'd get accomplished no more than any of the other 12 folks up there. 

Pyramid, why is the media blacking Bernie out?  

This should be good.

Because they'll owe more money in taxes. 

^ yep

you need a whore's race

what's, different??

Bernie is doing quite well with the alternative media, and the constant coverage he gets has helped him immensely.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-12-12/sanders-and-the-left-m...

so bk are you showing that young people like the one candidate that speaks to them and can clearly see the hypocrisy, ineptitude,  and same old-same old bullshit of the washington establishment?

for supposed progressive hippie, alternative minded people....sometimes people really disappoint me...

for further research, i will adjourn to the redwoods, salt air, and psychedelic music...

racket you posted that warren walked away from M4A b/c she knows it can't be funded. 

talk about good -- that's the dumbest shit you posted so far. naive much? lol. 

Answer the question.

Turtle still waiting on “hope” and “change” from Obama campaign.

all i do is answer centrist questions up in here. 

you never answered: when bernie is the nominee, will you vote bernie or trump? 

So why does the media hate Bernie?

you know why buddy. 

just do the right thing 3/3. you got this. 

Really I don’t, that’s why I’m asking!  What’s the big conspiracy to keep Bernie out of the limelight?

i've answers that question many times. you can go back and look if you'd like. 

so you'll vote trump or bernie? simple question. 

I will vote for neither, like I’ve said before.  

haha excellent. 

There is the pyramid shame game.  Straight up bitch.

Jeez Turtle, does reality not make it through the redwood forests? The voter turnout for "young people" is abysmal. It's worse in the primaries than in the general election. To think that millions of 18-25 year olds, who see through the corporate BS and lov Bernie, will get to the polls is laughable.

To think that President Sanders would get through more than 1/10 of his Socialist agenda is more laughable.

Big picture, Turtle. You can bang your chest and scream, "I want, they want...," all you want,  it it doesn't change reality. 

Then you,racket, are the problem. You must like chump in office.

"They" don't want him because he will take money from them and give it to the people in need.  He will oppose their putrid greed.  Where the fuck have you been?   Who needs to make billions?  This country is upside down.

Haha another one pounding on his keyboard.  Settle down, Bernie won’t get the nomination, so it’s a non issue.

racket is a joke. 

bk -- it's so funny how hard you're pushing for centrists when you didn't even vote for king centrist obama. i mean, such drastic change of heart -- we were going for W to who knew, and W was the worst thing to happen to the country in a long time -- and you didn't vote obama b/c you saw him as too conservative -- i get that -- but you're so sure that people won't show up for bernie, or that bernie can't inspire to get his policy passed -- but the centrist haven't been able to get people to show up to vote since forever. 

i bring it up b/c you're kinda missing the ball here -- it's like you were ahead of your time and now you just gave up. strange. i'm not shaming you or anything, just an observation that i find interesting. 

so how do the centrist feel about the dems supporting the trump agenda? 

y'all should be infuriated, yes?  b/c it seems like the corporate dems and trump want some of the same very destructive policies in place, as their voting has indicated.   

still no answer from anybody on that. are we calling that "getting shit done in congress" ? 

we know racket supports trumps agenda, so no need for you to respond, buddy. just sit there. ok. 

Congrats on the military budget you guys just handed trump, Thod. They really need to spend some money eh? 160 billion lol. Do you guys even give a shit where your money goes? 

No kidding, Timpane. So, Warren backs away from M4A, but the house approved a 783 billion dollar spending bill for the military, including money for the oh-so-useful Space Force! And yet some of you believe that the same moderates who have been backing up American imperialism and approving its budget for all these years, will now somehow stand up to that machine. Right. BK, you keep saying Bernie won't achieve this, won't achieve that: if Bernie achieves 1/10 of what he promises (as per your words above) he will have revolutionized American politics for the next century. Bernie is the only candidate not beholden to any corporate strings to affect his policies, and the only candidate who would start the negotiations at a point where the end result might actually represent a genuine compromise and something that benefits actual humans. Every single moderate (and I include Warren in that appraisal) will start the negotiation from the centre point, and then yield to the right on what they want, ultimately keeping the exact same status-quo in place. Why? Because they are beholden to their corporate sponsors....

The sad thing is, I already know what's going to happen. Either Biden or Bloomberg is going to get the nomination and the corporate Democratic Party is going to sell their country to their overlords and rake in the corporate profits during Trump`s second presidency. Meanwhile, the world burns and the people suffer. But hey, come 2022 when the shit is hitthing the fan in the USA, I'm sure you'll all take comfort in knowing that you were part of the muffled, silent and cowardly masses that had the chance to produce actual change in the country and world, but instead chose the comfort of your environmentally destructive, socially unequal lives. 

Oh, the vote on the budget in the DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED HOUSE was 378-48. But yeah, keep voting in those moderate dems. They're doing a bang-up job...

centrists, we're waiting. 

hiw do you feel about your team voting in trumps agenda time and time again? 

crickets.........question king? weird steve? ned? lumber? 

the courts? 

somebody say something! 

Oh, and I just wanted to point out that this election in the USA, while you all discuss it back and forth in terms of who would be good or who wouldn't, or who would beat Trump or who wouldn't, I don't see much or any discussion on here about the real consequences that this decision has on the rest of the world. It's natural for us as humans to think first and foremost of the priorities in our tribe or territory, but your tribe/territory is different from the rest because of the sheer power and volume it wields over the entire planet. The saying is "The USA catches a cold and the rest of the world sneezes." When Trump wins reelection, or in a "better" case scenario, a moderate dem wins, you can expect that to effect the entire world. Environmental policy and the promotion of lax environmental regulations in industries around the world. The escalation or continuation of military imperialism around the world. The continued manipulation of economically tiny (by comparison) nations into accepting the Pax Americana. A president like Trump has already contributed greatly to normalizing the far-right around the world, creating a stage in which many once marginal politicians have taken centre stage by using the same rhetoric, same strategies, hell, even the same campaign managers.

So yeah, your decision is about much more than the USA - it's also about the responsible tenancy and guidance of the most powerful economy and military in the planet. Please, take this responsibility with some degree of consideration for the rest of the world, as well...

Jesus Christ, you don't get what I'm saying because you're too friggin' dense.

 Bernie is a Socialist, not a Democrat. There's nothing wrong with that. Our political system, however, is not ready for a Socialist President. I've said over and over that Bernie's transformative power is as a Senator, where he has been able to move the discussion. As President, he would be too polarizing. Republicans will paint him as a Communist and moderate Democrats in Congress will have to be very careful about how they support him. Most of the country is too fucking stupid and ignorant to recognize that we are already somewhat Socialist, and his platform is the logical progression. Even liberals are scared of Communism.

I truly believe that we need a left of center Executive, who can compromise and get shit done. They shouldn't be polarizing. At the same time, the Progressive coalition needs to truly educate the public, and gain more seats in Congress. There's only one fucking Progressive in the Senate right now, Bernie. Do the math. It doesn't bode well for getting the big and lasting reforms that we need. Get 150 Progressives in the House and 25 in the Senate, and shit will get done. 

Although you may disagree with me on my assessment, it doesn't mean that I'm wrong. I truly believe that we're looking at a 12 year plan for real and lasting reforms, and President Sanders in 2020 doesn't fit into that plan. This "top down revolution" is bullshit. It has to come through education and lasting reforms. Again, Bernie's strength and power is in the Senate, where he has been transformative. I won't vote for him in the primary (not that it matters in VT, where he'll get 85%), and I will vote for him on his next senatorial run.

I'm not the bad guy here. I'm liberal as shit, but not a revolutionary. We need real change, and we also need a viable plan to get there. I've yet to hear a Bernie supporter lay out a plan, other than "Bernie is the only one who will do this and that." That's not a transformative change that wins hearts and minds and is lasting.

 By the way, there are over 100 Progressives in the House. Many of them voted for the military spending bill. The numbers don't lie. Why? Because they got the 12 weeks of paid parental leave for federal employees that they wanted.

In our stupid 2 party system, where fucked up line items are the norm, even saints have to sell their souls. Our dumbass system isn't changing overnight and with one President. It's going to take over a decade of reforms to get to real change. 

Stay down P-nutz...

>>>we know racket supports trumps agenda,

hahahahaha.  You’re like an 8 year old that doesn’t get his way.  Where do you live?

The alt-left media talking points are just as wrong as the alt-right media talking points. "If you don't support Bernie you support Trump." "If you're not Bernie you're a corporate Democrat."

Honestly, what the fuck is that, and how the hell is it supposed to help? It's not true.

now the centrists are likening progressives to trump. 

calm down racket --the free stuff for everybody argument makes you look like a fool.

still no answer from any of the moderates here on dems supporting the trump agenda. stunning. 

bk if you don't think bernie has any plans, then you are intentionally ignoring his campaign.

the reform starts w/ bernie -- and since 2016 we've since his movement change congress already. just once dems have been working to elect the new progressive, massively popular faces we now all in the house. 

lol thod -- sad little man can't even answer a question. ever. 

It's amazing how smart you think you are, lol.

But keep on campaigning...

We should be hearing from large font bold caps in 5...4...3..2..

>>bk if you don't think bernie has any plans, then you are intentionally ignoring his campaign.

Holy fuck, you're impossible. Where the hell did I ever say that he has no plans?

I find it pitiful that a guy from Chile has a better grasp on the situation here than most americans. Good job Javy.

BK, I heard you thought Obama was too conservative(I did not see it till after he was elected). You get points for that. But you are blind to what needs to happen.  The system is horribly corrupt yes, but how will it change any by electing the same ol shit?  Maybe I am naive in hoping it can be fixed, but not to try would be unconscionable. We owe it to the generations that it will effect the most.  Bernie is the only hope. AOC and her clan are a few yrs away from making an impact on their own. But they are trying.  They would be huge support for Bernies agenda. And I believe the masses of this once great country will get behind him too. We need another FDR.

tod, it's Georgia not bold.  And fuck you too.

https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/2589270441294502/

I apologize for using a fb link, but this is how it is.

BK, I may be dense, but at least I can get my point across without calling you names or suggesting that you don't understand what I'm saying. Have you considered that maybe I do understand what you're saying, and just disagree? You see, to me, your argument sounds like "I'm advocating for the exact same strategy applied by every single moderate over the last 30, 40 years and hope for a different result." To me, what you're suggesting is the exact same strategy that has generated the slippery-slope towards the normalization of far-right politics.

I disagree that Bernie won't be able to rile up support for his policies. Again, he may not get exactly what he wants but even if he gets a small percentage, he'll be able to shift things back towards the direction of sanity. His track record suggests so, as he's worked across the aisle repeatedly. He has solid plans for everything (contrary to what you suggested in a post above) and because he's the only one who can claim any kind of moral clarity in that shit-show that is government, he'll be able to actually call out the hypocrisy and dirty background of politicians who don't want to align with his policies. He's the only one who can genuinely expose the lobby behind other politicians' policies to the voters. And I think people are sick of the corporate purchasing of politics, left and right, and are ready to listen to politicians of any ilk who can prove that they are leaving that behind. 

And I'm sure no one here can argue that the US lifestyle is not environmentally destructive or socially unequal. According to the Global Footprint Network, the average American uses seven "global hectares" compared to a global average of 2.7. It would require 4.1 planet earths for all humans to live the lifestyle that American live. So yeah, when you make your decision, think: which candidate actually gives a shit about justice and the well-being of human beings, not just in the USA but in the world?

What exactly would President Sanders get through that Klobuchar, Buttigeg, Castro, or evening Bloomberg wouldn't? 
I get it, Jav, you're a Socialist. The only one that you'll ever like is Bernie. I think that most of them would set us nicely in the right direction. To call them all the "same old, same old" is just wrong.

I think that we all need to step back and recognize the difference between laws and executive orders. The former are lasting and become part of the fabric of our society. The latter are short-term, divisive, and generally add to the polarization in this country.

Oh, I was calling OG dense, and he's earned that, at least from me. You know, when I get a comment that says I haven't listened to Bernie's platform and don't think he has one, all I can think is, "what the fuck is wrong with that dude?" I'm one of the very few here who has been both following and voting for Bernie since the 80s.

>> I apologize for using a fb link, but this is how it is. <<

MarkD maybe you didn't know this? but here's your Facebook source Media Bias/Fact Check.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/nowthis-news/

Also... 

The actor Michael Douglas whose the mouthpiece on your Facebook link is worth (drum roll please)

300 million
 

Michael Douglas has a lot motivation to want to protect his wealth, especially under a Wealth Tax Plan.

Also, Facebook is owned by Mark Zuckerberg who's in bed with Trump, if you didn't know?

<<<>>>>What exactly would President Sanders get through that Klobuchar, Buttigeg, Castro, or evening Bloomberg wouldn't? 
I get it, Jav, you're a Socialist. The only one that you'll ever like is Bernie. I think that most of them would set us nicely in the right direction. To call them all the "same old, same old" is just wrong.

haven't read all the new posts, but wow. this it it right here folks. this is what we're fighting against (besides the white nationalists). you are so off base, bk. and you have the audacity to call me dense. man, i know you're much more intelligent than myself, but you sir, are 100% wrong and exactly what is wrong w/ the country on the dem side. smile incredible. 

I'm really digging the false sense of moral superiority over and the consistent airs of condescension towards anyone who doesn't support Bernie. I bet it will go a really long way with the poor, huddled masses. Lol

Fight your revolutionary fight. I don't care. It won't work because this country isn't ready for that kind of revolution. I know you'll blame it on some DNC conspiracy or another, but at least you have your talking points for when that happens. 

Polls via phone are becoming more and more unreliable, all demographics are not accurately represented...from Electoral-Vote.Com...

Do pollsters call cell phones?

Yes if they are dialing the numbers manually; No if a computer is doing the dialing. This fact means that people who have only a cell phone and no land line will be systematically excluded from polls with automatic dialing. Since cell-only people tend to be mostly young people, the pollsters intentionally overweight the 18-30 year olds to compensate for this effect, but as more people drop their landlines, it is becoming a serious issue. 

nah man. when you say " I think that most of them would set us nicely in the right direction." ok. that's your opinion. that's cool and i have no issue w/ this, you don't get that? i disagree but whatever. 

when you say "To call them all the "same old, same old" is just wrong." this is 100% false. not true. discredits everything you say. 

still no answer from any of the moderates here on dems supporting the trump agenda. 

So, to get this straight, you consider every Democratic candidate, except for Bernie, to be exactly the same? I want to clarify what you're saying before responding.

the ones you named? yes. 

Other than being Democrats, they are not all the same. The issue is that you simply don't like the Democratic Party, and want it to become the Progressive/Socialist Party.

There's no doubt that our 2 party system is a problem.  Bernie is in a unique situation, and could change the system altogether. If he has the level of support that you say he does, he should be able to run as a 3rd party candidate, and beat Trump and the Democratic nominee.

Instead of doing that, which would be badass, he's hijacking a party that he's not a part of and can't win in. In doing so, he's getting a bunch of people like you to be pissed at he Democrats because they aren't what you want them to be.

Why exactly isn't Bernie being true to his history and running as a 3rd party candidate? It's too bad, because he has the power to overturn the 2-party system for good. But fuck it. Bernie is the Great White Hope who is getting assfucked by the corporate Democrats and msm because he's an outsider.

Instead of having a sick kegger of his own, with no cover and live bands playing all night, he's gathered up all his friends and kicked the door in at a lame wine sipping party with a dude on a Casiotron, singing Piano Man. And now all is friends are complaining that the party  sucks. It does. There are enough of you with enough resources. Have your own party.

 you think bernie would be willing to accept any of those candidates to serve as his Vice President?

 For real I appreciate your answers, I believe you believe you understand.

He'll choose Katie Porter. 

mids no destination

still no answer from any of the moderates here on dems supporting the trump agenda. <<

Because it's a bullshit premise.  Don't confuse being ignored with being persuasive.

You don't get to define "moderate" or "centrist", either.

Brian K with the mic drop up there. Damn

TOD, being far left does not make it untrue. Probably the opposite.

And what exactly do you disagree with in that video?  I don't get the Mike Douglas point.  So he is rich. So what?  What he is saying is true.

bk i'll respond shortly. but the bernie isn't a dem get your own party argument is just absurd. 

<<<<>>>>Because it's a bullshit premise.  Don't confuse being ignored with being persuasive.

You don't get to define "moderate" or "centrist", either.
 

lol no shit? i don't make up the definitions bud. centrists like booker biden klo buttigieg bloomberg (republican) etc are just that, corporate shills pretending to represent the people. 

mad b/c your dems votes w/ trump, again? seriously, how is it bs? we should just accept the fact they go along w/ the monster they say they hate? how do you justify your corporate dems voting w/ trump, once again, increasing the already record setting military budget by 130billion. 

as dem voters -- you support that? i don't support elected dems voting in favor of trumps massively bloated military budget and his new corporate trade deal pelosi pushed through. 

bk people hates the dems for this exact reason. is this called resisting? 

^ hahahaaaaaa you guys still at it,,, tooooooo fucking funny

Or Not

Y'all just might be the perfect example of why trump will win reelection. Democratic Party Infighting. 

trump wins by nominating a centrist. 

we need somebody who will motivate people to show up and vote. only bernie does that. the movement is real no matter how much you wish it wasn't. 

thod still asking questions, i see. haha. 

^ You are a trip man

I can't seem to face up to the facts ( bernie will not be chosen)
I'm tense and nervous and I can't relax
I can't sleep 'cause my bed's on fire
Don't touch me I'm a real live wire

and you're a nice little holiday troll. 

only bernie can save us from the white walkers. if everyone you've ever known turning into a wight sounds like the kind of country you want to live in, vote for a centrist. but only bernie can overcome the long night, and currently all polling amongst young voters is showing that in all likelihood bernie is in fact azor ahai.

BK, you keep wanting to label this situation and create euphemisms that you can understand, but they don't reflect what people here are saying, or at least not what I'm saying. You're the only one using words like "all of them". All I ever said was that every single candidate except Bernie has accepted money from major corporations and that this will inevitably affect the decision making process of those who are in the pocket of the corporations. Fucking Buttegieg started changing his entire campaign platform as soon as corporate money got involved, and yet you believe that he won't be majorly influenced by the same money if voted in? Warren immediately turned her back on M4A as soon as corporate money came into her campaign, and you think she won't be influenced by them once in power? That's just plain ignoring history and human nature.

It's pretty simple - if you haven't accepted money from someone, you don't owe them favors AND you can safely call out the people nagging you who ARE in the pocket of corporations.

As for the "Get your own party" arguments, sorry, but that's dumb. There's an entire bureaucratic network behind the democratic party that have actual requisites and policies on who gets to run as one of their candidates. Apparently, all of them are convinced that Bernie can run as a candidate but you know better than them? Riiiiiiiiiight....

https://youtu.be/mSQ3DWR2a0k

For what its worth, new polling show Bernie and Biden in a statistical dead heat with Bernie now leading with non-white voters:

https://www.npr.org/2019/12/16/788231791/npr-pbs-newshour-marist-poll-bi...

bernie's absolutely crushing this campaign. tied 1st in the nation. 1st among non whites. amazing. 

the establishment shook to the core. most excellent. 

bk is bloomberg ok w/ you running as a dem? b/c he's an actual republican. 

weird steve even nate silver, lol, is saying bernie can win now. guy is trash too and hates bernie. 

do the right thing folks. 

I don't necessarily disagree with most of what you're saying, Jav. Of course someone who takes corporate money may feel beholden to their benefactors. I am not, though, looking for some sort of revolution through the 2020 election. You are, and that's where we differ. While I see "most" of the candidates as a viable starting point to a longer end-game, you don't. While I see a longer end-game, you see the need for a pretty immediate one. You and I are seeking very similar ends, it's just the means to those ends that are different.

All the power to Bernie. For a Dem to win they are going to have to pull out a 62% turnout, which is around 4 points higher than 2016, and I think what Obama pulled out in either 08 or 12. I don't see any of the candidates doing that right now. Bernie may be popular with the youth, but that doesn't mean they'll get off their asses. I don't see him mobilizing minorities, either, but a lot can happen in 6 months.

If Bernie wins the primary, of course he'll get my vote in the general. Right now, though, I have no idea who my primary vote is going to. I know a few who are out of the running, but I'm in Vermont and Bernie will get our electoral votes regardless of how I vote.

Nice charts, pretty colors. Unless he keels over, of course Joe's gonna be the nominee. Pipe dreams are nice, ( equal rights, fair voting, no discrimination, Jesus, universal healthcare, green energy,  trumps behind bars, bernie elected, all that lovely hippy shit from the 60's,  etc etc), but it's impossible and irresponsible to ignore reality.

Confucius Say - man who sees only one solution to a problem, usually end up disappointed

there's only one solution left, bernie, b/c we've tried the corporate dem rule for decades now. obama delivered trump and you're asking for biden or an equivalent? 

bernie's movement doesn't hate the dem party, like bk states, rather we hate what they have become -- beholden to the corporate interests they represent, and not the people they are elected to represent. it's not hard to see that -- and many people do, which is why bernie is going to win. this is reality. 

Lol, you definitely come off as hating the Democratic Party. As for "what it's become," our political system has always been owned and run by the wealthiest. We now have a better representation of "the people" than at any point in history. As a result, the disparity is way more in our faces now. But don't delude yourself into believing that the it was once better than it is now.

i've voted corporate dem my entire life. lol. 

but the democrats once represented the working class. undeniable.

it was once better for working class americans, trade unions; and failing to reform labor laws, like what pelosi is doing at this exact moment, and after decades of this, we are left w/ trump. 

>But don't delude yourself into believing that the it was once better than it is now.<

uh, sure brah...

https://www.epi.org/publication/charting-wage-stagnation/

Most of us in the Sanders/Warren progressive wing weren't big fans of the dem party before they entered it. Trying to reform from within your fucked up govern to the center right BS for rich dems

what about all them fucking asshole Union's for Public Officials against Medicare For All because they negotiated with the politician bosses holding the purse for healthcare benefits most of us could never get. Rotten deals like these should be against the law 

https://youtu.be/DbBOj0DHLEo

>But don't delude yourself into believing that the it was once better than it is now.<

Ever hear of FDR?

Hmmm, I think I've heard of FDR. Wasn't he the president at the tail end of the Great Depression, when the financial systems had collapsed, life savings were lost, unemployment was at its highest, and there was mass homelessness and hunger? I believe he jump started the economy with massive public works program, and he also implemented necessary social reforms and security nets to protect the public. Is that the FDR you're talking about?

Meanwhile, in 2019, unemployment is at its lowest, mortgage rates are 3.25%, the markets are at an all time high, and the QoL for many Americans is fantastic. 
I'm not saying that there aren't plenty of really fucked up things that need fixing, but the scenario that necessitated FDRs reforms isn't present. There's no impetus for law makers on both sides to vote for massive reforms.

Homelessness way out of control on gentrifying west coast. That's everything west of Chicago. But unemployment is low now that people appear to die when they stop receiving all unemployment benefits due to them thanks W Bush changes. They aren't counted. People are underemployed & can't afford to cancel out there paychecks commuting to low paying jobs outside the community's they live in. People work multiple under paying part time jobs. Single parents can't get affordable day care stay on on welfare and free care programs.

Housing costs and tax avoiding business relocating to your neighborhood causing you to win the housing lottery...time to kick the kids out charge $1500 a month for rent...housing lottery winners seen it happen with Fidelity Investments did to towns surrounding my hometown in Massachusetts before high tailing to NH & RI after sweetheart tax deals were expiring. Time to fuck NH & RI tax payers. Time for new housing lottery winners to gobble up all them earnings coming from these new great new jobs.

Sanders wrote Tuesday that "at a time when we have massive levels of income and wealth inequality; when half of our people are living paycheck to paycheck; when more than 500,000 Americans are homeless; and when public schools throughout the country are struggling to pay their teachers a livable salary, it is time to change our national priorities."

the Rise in homelessness is due to an out of control addiction crisis (here in California thanks to prop 47 eliminating drug court) and mental health crisis (due to gravely disabled definitions and closure of state facilities).  Some politicians, media, and non profits are moving away from the “housing crisis” narrative as new counts confirm over 75% on the streets are addicted or mentally ill.

Housing is still the answer to climate change. Greta wants people to commute shorter distances. 

Greta has a posse.

when does warren drop out and endorse bernie? 

Here's where I think shit gets wonky...

Polls are poles.

You can find a poll to fit any narrative if you just google.

Biden and all the shit that goes with Biden for better or worse, #'s don't budge.

Bernie supporters are more likely to not vote for anybody other than Bernie.

So a horse race between Warren and Bernie would benefit Trump.

Warren people believe that it's important to support the candidate that the US decides as it's Democratic candidate (especially in these times).

Most Bernie supporters will say...my $27 lottery ticket (Bernie donation) I'm feeling stronger, I can beat the house this time, maybe 2nd times a charm? 

Democrats fall in love.

Republicans fall in line.

Socialist pick up their ball and go home.

2020 we're not playing the same game as Reagan, Bush 1,2, Clinton or Obama

You know what's at stake.

she'll go through CA and then fall in line and endorse the movement. there's too much at stake for her not to, agreed. 

If Bernie's the will of CA, so be it...

What CA does...doesn't change my mind.

California is gonna California.

If you want to get rid of the electoral college?
 

Votes matter.

Republicans fall in line

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why would CA change your mind? 

warren should've never backed away from M4A. 70%+ of dems favor it, almost 60% nationally favor it. oh well. she's done. it's now a two person race between biden and bernie -- votes matter which is why doing the right thing on 3/3 is so important. 

you now must fall in line behind bernie -- for the sake of the country. 

>>>>>you now must fall in line behind bernie

Authoritarian much?

you too, surf. do the right thing. 

>>>>my $27 lottery ticket (Bernie donation)

I paid the $27 recently (even though I am an independent and can't vote in the primary) and now the dude won't stop texting me a couple times a day asking for more money.

Me too Ken. Only with emails(and in Cali I can vote in the Dem Primary).

I sent an email back asking to curtail or I would block.  I only get one every few days now.

If I had the money, I would send 27.00 every week.