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from the progressive Warren/Sanders flank I say yes IMHO

 

Not sure I'm interpreting your post properly but my short answer is yes;  Trump's hand is being held by both parties, strolling into a victory in 2020. 

 

who should be the nominee that isn't a schmuck and isn't divisive?

Everyone's cunt hair is scrutinized by the hubbell telescope and somehow becomes 'divisive' yet the other side proudly grab's pussy and smiles all the way through the election cycle. 

If you still roll with 'Hillary was unelectable' then Trump 2020 shouldn't be much of a surprise. 

 

 

   

she was unlikeable, not unelectable.

she did win the popular vote.

what can be done about those swing states with gerrymandered districts and a history of voter disenfranchisement?

almost seems more important than who gets the nomination...

 

 

Media coverage wise and Biden's campaign thinking with that help he's in the general election arena already. Dismissing the rest of the democrats that could also beat Trump. 

Warren and Sanders battle it out then the winner consumes Biden/Harris voters on the way to beating Trump

Commie klansmen calling us socialists lol

gerrymandered districts have nothing to do with the Presidential election (you can't gerrymander a state).

In reality, 40 states are alredy decided for 2020.

The 2020 presidential election is about  a few white rust belt states (PA, OH, Michigan, maybe Wisconsin) + a few confederate states that are in play (Florida, NC, Virginia, maybe TX & GA?).

 

AOC would win California.

So would Biden, or anybody else who is not Republican.

Biden can win Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio and maybe Wisconsin.

Can AOC?

 

If not, AOC should shut the fuck up.

Unless she is working for Russia.

Like Stein was.

AOC is running for Prez?

Sounds more like you're talking about Tulsi.

 

#notyoutulsi

 

There's an age issue with the AOC thing

I know; just wondering WTF Steve is on about.

 

We need a sarcasm font.smiley

Trump's play is clearly to paint the democrats as being AOC.

The corporate media helps by giving her more airtime than just about anyone.

 

AOC does not play will in the rust belt, which is where the election will be won or lost.

That is my point.

That is also Pelosi's point.

 

 

Dems just need to do ground work in the Rust Belt. 

 

Fight the reps for it, make them spend $$$.

 

I love me some AOC, but if Joe wins the nomination, he gets my vote.

 

I'd love to vote for Harris, Bernie or Warren, too.

Vote Blue No Matter Who

(#notyoutulsi)

bernie’s been working the rust belt since the dems fucked it all up. and pelosi sure is trying to cement a trump 2020 win. she’s awful and must go. 

Haven't been paying much attention to the Dem race for the nom.

Is Bernie still behind? Last I heard Spike Lee jumped ship this time and is going with someone else instead.

If he gets the nom, he'll get my vote, just not jazzed

Biden, Harris 2020.

None of the current female candidates will join Biden. 

He might ask Cory Booker to join him.

So far, I don't know anyone who knows anyone who plans to vote for Biden in a primary.

Who are the pollees?

 

 

Joe Biden's biggest supporters all have two faces. 

Polls still have Biden up by 12 points and he still commands an impressive lead with black and older voters.   But if you added Bernie's numbers to either Harris' or Warren's numbers, Biden would be trailing:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democrat...

If at some point either Warren or Bernie dropped out and the progressives rallied around one candidate, Biden would be in trouble.  His hope is that it will remain a four or five person race up through Super Tuesday, which would allow him to pick up state after state with a modest plurality with the pack splitting up the rest.  

This is compelling to me:

Biden 2020:  Not Trump.

Did you vote for Hillary? 

The media and demacrats are running scared about the progressives either Warren or Sanders getting the nomination that's why we are getting so much Biden, Harris, Buttigieg & Beto media coverage up the ass. Well  maybe not so much from Beto lately.

I voted for Hillary, but I will do as much as I can to try to help elect Bernie if he is the nominee.

My first choice is Warren, as I think she can connect with the rust belt.  Might be wrong, I love her wealth tax but she  is even more to the left than Bernie and that could be a large problem with a lot of voters..

I think Biden-Warren could work.  The message would be:  Good-ole Joe to bring back normalcy for four years, then VP Warren can run for 2024 and you can have a debate between her ideas and Paul Ryan/ Nikki Haley's ideas.

I think this election is about suburban moms in the rust belt. 

I think they are doing well economically and thus they don't  want "socialism" (they LIKE their private insurance, as opposed to having the exact same insurance as poor people...yeah, I wrote that, but I suspect you agree with me that that is true). 

They just want to be done with Trump. 

thod still pulling for beto? lol.

warren would work under biden? no way. she hates him. worlds apart. 

anybody here support biden rn, to secure the primary? did you follow 2016 at all? 

bernie = most popular dem and most  likely to beat trump....since 2016. 

 

 

  easy pizza boy...

I'm gonna vote for the candidate against trump, but keep humping Bernie's leg

You don't even have to be a fan. The reality is that Biden would be the only candidate that beats Trump in the general election.  The way this country is leaning I'm not sure anyone's going to beat Trump.  If you're ear is tuned to Main St America you have every right to be scared.  It's gonna get worse before it gets better.   

My pet theory (smiley) is that as the earth spirals through space it passes through various types of inter-stellar clouds. In the 60s we passed through a psychedelic cloud. Now we seem to be entering a cloud of selfishness and fascism - just look at all the nations that have lurched rightward in the last couple of years. We will emerge from this fascist fog eventually, if we don't kill ourselves off orr make the earth uninhabitable first.

Devastating Mike Gravel Ad Goes Right For Biden's Jugular

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utxYhs_GeBs

I'd still vote for Biden over dRumpf.

 

Biden sucks.

 How do you spell guillotine?

Where does Mr. trumps head belong?

Joe is dead meat already and if you don't see that you're not paying attention.

Barring any shenanigans by the DNC, have to agree with Thom on that.

One area I thought Joe would do well is sucking money from the wealthy establishment donors, but Bernie and Warren are leading the pack on fundraising:

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/04/767210633/progressives-sanders-and-warren...

Once Bernie and Warren combine forces, its over for Joe.

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