Biden's Candidacy: April 25th, 2019 - June 27th 2019

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     It will be curious to see who will be propped up as the new front runner, it seems like the punditry is leaning towards Harris, I just don't see it, it seems like her platform is largely based on racial discrimination from a generation ago which is entirely legitimate, but isn't a viable pathway towards being elected president of the United States.  The other candidate they will claim is emerging into front runner status will be Elizabeth Warren, let me delicately say there is no way she will ever be elected, she is just terribly mean spirited, people do not want to listen to raw anger from now until November 2020.  That leaves Bernie...maybe?  maybe?  I could see it, I could definitely see it, I don't think he'd win, but I could see him being the nominee.

     If there's one thing I think we can all agree on, it's that Biden is done.

>>>>>she is just terribly mean spirited, people do not want to listen to raw anger from now until November 2020.  

 

razmatard calls her ultra bitch

Translation: women who don't defer to men are bitches

Wow you may wana consider rehab slak, cuz you've done smoked yourself stupid. 

And when yer done here ya go slackjaw jezabel --

 

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Not at all alias. No need putting your words in my mouth. You can speak for yourself.

To clarify ----

At this point in early debating its all about the image you portray on that stage. I tried to watch as an undecided voter. 

If Kamala (I never mentioned EW you stupid mutherfucker slacker)  had a different delivery method and spoke calmly in control, a demeanor more like mayor Pete, her message reaches a lot more ears. She came off like a rude short tempered nag. People and yes especially undecided men aint gonna vote for that. That better ?

i thought kamala did and spoke well. 

sorry, at this point we need a leader with some kinda backbone. 

people were shouting over each other. she had to be vocal to be heard.

 

 

 

     By process of elimination it was without question a big night for Bernie Sanders and an even bigger night for Donald Trump.  Biden is essentially knocked of the chessboard, that's a seismic event.

 

     note:  the thread title is missing a "," ...apologies 

Did you watch the entire thing ?  I thougt she did well too till the episode with Joe.  It does not look good losing cool cutting someone off and speaking over them louder and louder to make your point. Makes you look unpresidential,  kinda like trump, cringe worthy.  I'm sure the repubs were loving that slam Joe performance.

 

I support the Uppity black woman and  the Nasty Woman - great to see them doing so well, and yeah they’re going to make misogynists cry. And yeah those with Mommy issues are having tantrums too. 

 

Warren/Harris 2020 or Harris/Warren 2020 

 

 

 

and RIP Biden campaign. He knocked himself out, but sure Kamala gave him the opportunity to do so. She’s a smart one.

pass the torch, Bernie..

 

 

 

     If the democrats are thinking of hitching their wagon to either Warren or Harris that will surely be a spectacle for the ages, Trump will strategically ask not to be thrown into that briar patch, as it would lead to certain victory.  In the aftermath when you're looking around for someone to blame, ask Oprah what just happened.

I was in the teeth of the busing fiasco in Wilmington, DE back in the late 70s. There was no nuance to the plan. It was blocks of suburban kids bussed downtown for grades 3-6 (it started my 6th grade year) and vise versa blocks of inner-city kids shipped to suburban schools grades K-2 and 7-12. It was an awful plan and was implemented ham-handedly. Instead of enticing students/parents to send their kids downtown (like we did with our daughter for an Int'l studies/language school), they just moved bodies to fill quotas. There was no integration just two groups eating on different sides of the cafeteria.

Biden was RIGHT to oppose that plan because it was a BAD plan.

yes, Bry we know the GOP are already running scared from Warren/Harris. You and Faux can choke on your ‘helpful’ advice to Democrats

An all female ticket, or at least a ticket with a female on top, could be the right amount of Kryponite to neutralize the trumpster-fire in debates.

Harris/Mayor Pete or Warren/Pete.

 

Castro is a stronger candidate than Mayor Pete.

 

    "the GOP are already running scared from Warren/Harris"

     They are a fright, you have a point there

OK....Harris/Warren or Harris/Castro or Warren/Castro will work just fine. 

I thought Gillebrand did well, as swell.

wasn't familiar with castro but yeah i liked him.

also agree gillebrand and swell dude did well. also the dude who wants to give everyone $1000/mo.

It was a bad night for Biden for sure, but I wouldn't write him off quite yet.   When Kamala started tearing into him, I was sure he was going to come back with a sincere and heartfelt apology.   But instead, he doubled down on his historic opposition to busing by suggesting (if I heard him right) that it wasn't the federal government's place to tell the states how to act when it comes to race relations.  Jaw meet floor.

Of course, that is widely out of step with the modern Democratic party's values and he sounded much more like Jeff Sessions than Barack Obama.  But maybe it resonated with those older blue collar democrats up and down the I-95 corridor for whom busing is still a sore subject and appreciate that Joe didn't take lip from a "short tempered nag."     After all, if Biden can get 33% of the votes in the early primaries and the other 67% of the votes are split between Harris, Warren, Mayor Pete, and whoever else is still standing, he can win primary after primary and start collecting delegates until his nomination becomes inevitable. 

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It would be silly to count out Joe. Lotta people like Joe.

With the # of dem candidates in the running the pubs aren't quite sure who to spend the attack ad $ on. Seems to be  Bernie.

So far i've seen a lot of generic anti-socialism ads and a shitload of , Say No To Medicare ads on tv. Mutherfucking pharmaceutical and insurance company devils

OSAKA (The Borowitz Report)—Moments after watching the second night of Democratic Presidential debates, a reportedly shaken Donald J. Trump wrote a check to the campaign of former Vice-President Joe Biden.

Trump took a break from the G-20 summit to watch the Thursday-night contest and emerged from the viewing “ashen and trembling,” one G-20 colleague said.

Later, Trump was overheard trying to enlist Russian President Vladimir Putin to support the Biden 2020 effort.

“Please, you’ve got to help Joe. He’s in trouble,” Trump pleaded with the Russian.

“Stop being such a baby,” Putin reportedly snapped.

No debate in late June is going to have a big impact on the top tier candidates. The people that support Biden aren’t going to be scared off by last night. All he has to keep saying is that he will be a normal President, he is Obama’s Bestie, and he can beat Trump. That will get him deep into the Primaries.

Kamala helped separate herself from the pack, but she will never be VP. She is young and a few years away from being the senior Senator from CA. No way she gives that up to be VP.

I think Sanders lost the most last night. He tried to play from the same play book that worked against Hillary, but he needs to adjust to the world where he isn’t the only progressive on stage.

I might vote for Yang just because he didn’t wear a tie. I fucking hate ties.

 

     They might have to go back to the drawing board and bring in reinforcements...what about a Nadler/Schiff ticket?

Bryen...if the (D) candidate is more anti-war than tRump, is it safe to assume they have your vote? I recall you saying you only voted tRump because Hillary was the WW3 candidate.

Bryen, you ignorant thread-starting-slut. Biden’s voters were watching Dancing With The Stars last night and dgaf. He’s still got their support. He’s still in the lead. 

Kamala has already flip flopped from last night to today.

She said she would drop her coverage for "Medicare for all" and raised her hand at the debate. Then on morning joe with a republican audience she said she wasn't supporting "Medicare for all" and that she was saying she would ditch her person coverage for Medicare. WTF

Then her spokeswomen said on MSNBC later in the morning that she supports "Medicare for all" after avoiding the question twice. Good job Hallie Jackson holding her feet to the fire and asking a third time.

 

These early debates are all about the Dems showing who's more progressive than thou - they're singing to the choir. Biden ain't going anywhere, and he may be the best chance to beat Trump. Bernie and Warren will be there until the last primary. By that time the rest of the progressive cohort will be down to 3 or 4 as candidates drop out for lack of support.

ruh roh...

Kamala Harris reverses debate answer about abolishing private health insurance

Jeff Stein, The Washington Post

Published 8:20 am PDT, Friday, June 28, 2019

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Kamala-Harris-reverses-debate-health...

To early for team blue shit

Yeah Trump's a fucking tard but our countries problems existed before he even thought about being a birther

Time for change lets discuss ideas 

>> Then on morning joe with a republican audience <<

huh? Joemika, and their audience, is far, far away from the GOP.

Biden fundraiser ditches him and warns others may too

A fundraiser for Joe Biden’s 2020 campaign said he is no longer supporting the former vice president's White House bid — and predicted that others may follow suit.

Tom McInerney, a San Francisco-based attorney who was a lead bundler for former President Barack Obama, told CNBC he informed Biden's team of his decision on June 20.

The news of his break comes one day after Biden delivered an uneven debate performance that provoked new doubts about his candidacy and turned a spotlight back on his controversial statements and past policy positions on civil rights and abortion.

“I had actually let the campaign know I’d pulled back my support of Biden for now,” McInerney told the cable network, adding, “I don’t think he did well last night."

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/28/joe-biden-fundraising-2020-138...

>> Then on morning joe with a republican audience <<

>>huh? Joemika, and their audience, is far, far away from the GOP.

Not the ones following since Scarbourgh County. Granted it's a liberal paradise watching Republicans bash Trump with some liberal reporters yucking it up with them.

I'm getting bombarded with Trump commercial on MSNBC saying Democrats are hiding something by not releasing there list of SCOTUS judges like Trump did. What are they hiding.

Our candidate won't be a rapist so that whole judge quid pro quo shit you got going on is gonna blow up in your face.

Republicans love there quid pro quo's cough Russsia

>>>>>Turns out Bernie was against bussing too?

The link does go on to quote Bernie saying "The government doesn't give a shit about black people."    But were there even enough black people in Vermont in the 1970s to fill a single school bus?

Kamala Harris taking money from Wells Fargo. The ex vp's throwing her a fundraiser. Thank you for mortgage crisis. Warren & Sanders are gonna have field day.

 

     I feel somewhat guilty "piling on" in regards to Biden's physical/mental condition because I am aspiring to be an old guy myself someday, I know a lot of older gentlemen who are in a similar situation, they're good guys and should be respected, but they obviously struggle as we all will eventually if we are fortunate enough to be senior citizens...having said that, the elephant in the room is that he has aged so dramatically, it's like he's 76 going on 102, it is a challenge to complete thoughts and sentences, there's just no way he's still in this race by the Iowa caucus.  

     I just don't see a viable candidate that would even come close to competing with Trump in the general election, this could be a  Reagan '84 type landslide, it kind of feels like that's already a foregone conclusion it's just that no one dare mention it...for instance, try to come up with a believable scenario in which someone other than Joe Biden beats Trump in the general election and how they'd go about doing it.  

     I can't remember an election cycle that seemed so over before it really began.

Has Trump ever strung together a bunch of words that made sense? 

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     ^ The "I hate Trump" thing seems to have run its course, if that's the game plan there really is no game plan.  Fear and loathing of all things Trump is losing its effectiveness as a strategy, it's been beaten into the ground, at some point it's so tired & lame it may actually be having the exact opposite effect than intended on the electorate.

 

     That's nice Knotesau, you did really good there.

 

     Brilliant 

 

     Fascinating  

 

   "Harris’s second-night performance doubled her support; she went from just under 8 percent before Night 1 to almost 17 percent percent now. Much of that support came from voters who previously said they were backing Warren or Joe Biden. Speaking of Biden: He lost a bunch of voters — mostly to Harris, but also to Warren, Buttigieg and others. We’ll have to see whether these shifts stick or if voters keep moving around in the next few days and weeks."

     https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/democratic-debate-poll/

If there's one thing I think we can all agree on, it's that Biden is done<<<

I disagree.

He has a card to play, but doubt he will pursue it:  if he becomes a "reform candidate" and offers up a completely open and transparent "tour" of how the swamp works from an insider's perspective.  He's clearly not Trump, but he's likely gotten dirty enough in the past to have a fairly comprehensive understanding of how the underworld of politics works.  At the same time, he'd have to turn into a maverick of sorts and lose establishment support; however, he'd likely scoop up me and others even much further to the right (who haven't lost their minds yet as a result of perpetually doubling down, cough cough).

http://davidtoma.com/

 

 

     Have you researched the Biden situations in Ukraine & China?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-13/not-just-ukraine-biden-may-hav...

^Try using a reputable source for your research, not one which propagates conspiracy theories.

 

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Thank you.  Although the post is a worthless rag. 

 

    "Media Bias Fact Check’ is truly just one guy making misleading claims about news outlets while failing to back them up with anything, while maliciously changing the ratings to punish any news outlets that try to expose the invalidity of what he’s doing.”

    - Bill Palmer, Daily News Bin

     
 
https://www.justfactsdaily.com/media-bias-fact-check-incompetent-or-dish...

 

     ....anyways, the Ukraine & China scenarios are pretty ugly, the media's silence is deafening, but it's not good, if zerohedge.com is willing to publish the truth when CNN & MSNBC won't mention it, what does that say about genuine media bias?  Kind of ironic, wouldn't you agree?  What would Dave Van Zandt [aka the entire management & staff of mediabiasfactckeck.com] have to say about that?

I'll check out those articles later, going out to dinner with a group of folks.

 

     Have a good evening 

 

Media Bias Fact Check


MediaBIasFactCheck.com describes itself as “the most comprehensive media bias resource in the Internet.” The site is owned by Dave Van Zandt from North Carolina, who offers no biographical information about himselfaside from the following: “Dave has been freelancing for 25+ years for a variety of print and web mediums (sic), with a focus on media bias and the role of media in politics. Dave is a registered Non-Affiliated voter who values evidence based reporting” and, “Dave Van Zandt obtained a Communications Degree before pursuing a higher degree in the sciences. Dave currently works full time in the health care industry. Dave has spent more than 20 years as an arm chair researcher on media bias and its role in political influence.”

WND was unable to locate a single article with Van Zandt’s byline. Ironically, the “fact checker” fails to establish his own credibility by disclosing his qualifications and training in evaluating news sources.

Asked for information concerning his expertise in the field of journalism and evaluating news sources, Van Zandt told WND: “I am not a journalist and just a person who is interested in how media bias impacts politics. You will find zero claims of expertise on the website.”
Concerning his purported “25+ years” of experience writing for print and web media, he said: “I am not sure why the 25+ years is still on the website. That was removed a year ago when I first started the website. All of the writing I did was small print news zines from the ’90s. I felt that what I wrote in the ’90s is not related to what I am doing today so I removed it. Again, I am not a journalist. I simply have a background in communications and more importantly science where I learned to value evidence over all else. Through this I also became interested in research of all kinds, especially media bias, which is difficult to measure and is subjective to a degree.”

WND asked: Were your evaluations reviewed by any experts in the industry?

“I can’t say they have,” Van Zandt replied. “Though the right-of-center Atlantic Council is using our data for a project they are working on.”

Van Zandt says he uses “three volunteers” to “research and assist in fact checking.” However, he adds that he doesn’t pay them for their services.

Van Zandt lists WND on his “Right Bias” page, alongside news organizations such as Fox News, the Drudge Report, the Washington Free Beacon, the Daily Wire, the Blaze, Breitbart, Red State, Project Veritas, PJ Media, National Review, Daily Caller and others.

“These media sources are highly biased toward conservative causes,” Van Zandt writes. “They utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Sources in this category may be untrustworthy.”
His special notes concerning WND link to Snopes.com and PolitiFact.com, websites that have their own questionable reputations and formulas as so-called “fact checkers.” (See the “Snopes” and “PolitiFact” entries below.)

Van Zandt says he uses a “strict methodology” in determining which news sources are credible, but his website offers vague and typo-ridden explanations of his criteria, such as the following:
Asked if his own political leanings influence his evaluations, Van Zandt said: “Sure it is possible. However, our methodology is designed to eliminate most of that. We also have a team of 4 researchers with different political leanings so that we can further reduce researcher bias.”

Bill Palmer of the website Daily News Bin accused Van Zandt of retaliating when the Daily News Bin contacted him about his rating. Palmer wrote:

“[I]t turns out Van Zandt has a vindictive streak. After one hapless social media user tried to use his phony ‘Media Bias Fact Check’ site to dispute a thoroughly sourced article from this site, Daily News Bin, we made the mistake of contacting Van Zandt and asking him to take down his ridiculous ‘rating’ – which consisted of nothing more than hearsay such as ‘has been accused of being satire.’ Really? When? By whom? None of those facts seem to matter to the guy running this ‘Media Bias Fact Check’ scam.
 
“But instead of acknowledging that he’d been caught in the act, Van Zandt retaliated against Daily News Bin by changing his rating to something more sinister. He also added a link to a similar phony security company called World of Trust, which generates its ratings by allowing random anonymous individuals to post whatever bizarre conspiracy theories they want, and then letting these loons vote on whether that news site is ‘real’ or not. These scam sites are now trying to use each other for cover, in order to back up the false and unsubstantiated ‘ratings’ they semi-randomly assign respected news outlets. …
 
“‘Media Bias Fact Check’ is truly just one guy making misleading claims about news outlets while failing to back them up with anything, while maliciously changing the ratings to punish any news outlets that try to expose the invalidity of what he’s doing.”
But Van Zandt accused Palmer of threatening him, and he said MediaBiasFactCheck welcomes criticism. If evidence is provided, he said, the site will correct its errors.

“Bottom line is, we are not trying to be something we are not,” he said. “We have disclaimers on every page of the website indicating that our method is not scientifically proven and that there is [sic] subjective judgments being used as it is unavoidable with determining bias.”


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/exposing-9-fakest-fake-news-ch...

 

     Source Wars

 

"US intelligence has identified the go-betweens the Russians used to provide stolen emails to WikiLeaks, according to US officials familiar with the classified intelligence report that was presented to President Barack Obama on Thursday.

So why didn’t the public report name names? And don’t tell me that the IC is loath to disclose such information for fear that it would compromise precious methods and sources. In the past, the government has determined that a hacking offense was so egregious that naming and shaming–and indeed indicting–was necessary."

https://streetwiseprofessor.com/send-in-the-clowns-the-intelligence-comm...

 

     Biden currently "off the rails" on an extensive CNN interview, it's alarmingly untethered, like the cd is scratched and he's stuck on the phrase "c'mon man!".  It's not looking good, somebody may have to step in and get him out of the room.

 

    ^ Wow...it literally just happened, they are screaming at Chris Cuomo to end the interview, you can't make this stuff up, I've seen campaign staffers do that before, but never so dramatically, that may end up being the story, Jill Biden in full freak out mode, it's kind of sad to watch.  It is completely over, he's great until he begins to speak in an unscripted setting.

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    Another problem he has is he isn't believable, there's no credibility to what he's saying, you can almost see it in his eyes that even he doesn't believe his shtick.  Of course at this point he's fighting the unwinnable battle of having you believe what everyone knows to be false, which is the elephant in the room...begging the question, who will be the first democrat to end the charade and publicly disavow the Russia scam?  Until that happens, which may not be for years, every intelligent American will rightfully question their integrity.

     As an aside, it's interesting that he mentioned Ukraine on two separate occasions during the interview as if he somehow knew Chris Cuomo wouldn't ask about the scandal...kind of like "the dog that didn't bark". 

Biden = Better than Trump

 

     I think it actually bothers him on a spiritual level to be so full of malarkey, it's destroying his ability to speak in coherent sentences, I'm being completely serious, he's not good at it, you can see it in his eyes and hear it in his voice.

 

     Purely as a thought experiment, speaking in the hypothetical, a "what if" as it were...and this may strike some of you as radical, but what if Biden scheduled a prime-time address and basically said "I have serious misgivings as to the origins of the Russia investigation, and frankly believe it was a systematic mischaracterization of events in a failed attempt to mislead the American people and unseat a duly elected president...and I'd appreciate your vote".  

     But for the fact that he attended the January 5th, 2017 Oval Office meeting it just might work.  

I think it actually bothers him on a spiritual level to be so full of malarkey, it's destroying his ability to speak in coherent sentences, I'm being completely serious, he's not good at it, you can see it in his eyes and hear it in his voice.<<

 

As-Glitter Troll finally sees Trump clearly?  Awesome.

 

    ^ The Bluesnote Blues, name calling and Trump bashing to victory!  

       Seriously...is the game plan to hate Trump so viscerally that 270 electoral votes go to the challenger?  Kidding aside...I'm curious, is that the strategy?  It kind of seems like that's what it's been reduced to.  Fascinating stuff!

 

     Bob Marley - Coming In From The Cold Live In Dortmund, Germany '80

     https://youtu.be/LzckVnwAxXA

What is Trump's verbal strategy? Does he use juvenile tactics like name-calling and fat shaming and intellect bashing? 

>    Biden currently "off the rails"

Bryen currently on the rails

 

    ^ so clever

 

    If any intellectually curious zoners want to see the canary in the coal mine...check out this evening's Rachael Maddow circus with coup plotter James Baker trying victimhood on for size, it's fascinating to say the least.  

 

 

Off the rails and on to Spaceforce 

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     Bob Dylan 

     Blowing In The Wind 

     https://youtu.be/vWwgrjjIMXA

 

     Druba...I'm curious, are you still onboard with the Russia Hoax?  Asking for a friend, thanks.

Nope, never believed it was a hoax, though it was kind of exhausting going thru all that evidence....  amazing how much info the fine members of this community have provided over that last few years, some pretty smart folks here.  You seem to enjoy being the pious pontificator, since you've never been able to provide any evidence to support your entertaining claims, but living in a bubble can be like that...  

 

     ^ sure

 

   Claim # 1: "never believed it was a hoax"

                          Not easily believable, but perhaps I've given you too much credit...that's where I think the "new left" falls into 2

                     categories...the hoaxers and the hoaxed, I have serious doubts you were hoaxed.  As a "for instance", I do not believe

                     Ken was hoaxed.  I doubt I'm mistaken on either front.

 

     Jerry Garcia Band 12.19.1992

     The Warfield Theater    

     2nd Set

     https://youtu.be/kIPwPqmHsUg

 

     Joe Biden and Chris Cuomo must end their exclusive interview so restaurant can open.

     https://youtu.be/wGF-uzKZUdA

 

     @ 2:19  same technique 

     https://youtu.be/VMMNgI7uvy4

 

     @ :41 serial hoaxer attempting to hoax the easily hoaxable

     https://youtu.be/xGOR4C9tbb0