Bernie Sanders, Top Progressives Announce New Medicare-For-All Push

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Bernie Sanders, Top Progressives Announce New Medicare-For-All Push

Lowering the Medicare age could be a starting point.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-progressives-medicare...

geezus christ....

Yet another thread that rubs Jonny's pussy raw?

Get over it. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that there's something wrong with it. Always whining about thread content, yet you always post in them. Why are you unable to skip over all these threads if you don't like them? That's on you.

...amen

Ize can haz bitchfest?

Can you boyz back off of Jonny and share your opinion of Oakster's thread topic. 

I don't see Bernie pulling this one out. Maybe you guys think it will happen. 

lol....

its not the politics per se. its the blind idealism, and the severe lack of reckoning what is real that baffles my brain...

 

I vote for free stuff

nothing is free bro chach...

I vote for other people to pay for my stuff

now your talkin!!!!!!

Social contract: the voluntary agreement among individuals by which, according to any of various theories, as of Hobbes, Locke, or Rousseau, organized society is brought into being and invested with the right to secure mutual protection and welfare or to regulate the relations among its members.

 

 

but its not going to work out like you want,,,....

 

they will own you, and demand you "do things".....

 

but i know you like to party...... right??

Enticing investment opportunity or altruism. 

Why a Staggering Number of White Working-Class Americans Are Succumbing to 'Deaths of Despair'

A pair of pioneering Princeton researchers makes sense of a growing epidemic.

By Sarah Lazare /  AlterNet March 24, 2017

http://www.alternet.org/economy/why-staggering-number-white-working-clas...

>>they will own you, and demand you "do things".....

As long as people buy into the fallacy that single payer is equivalent to the Supreme Soviet, it will never happen.

It's healthcare, not gulags and assigned professions.

Who controls healthcare and insurance? 

Are they in it for money? 

Not me. Yes.

Who are the winners right now? What would they lose if it became affordable for everyone? 

Not me. Yes.

Get profits out of healthcare it kills people!

New anxieties as Trump says Obamacare will ‘explode’

By MICHAEL WARREN and SUDHIN THANAWALA, AP

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2017/03/26/new-anxieties-as-tr...

ATLANTA (AP) — Americans who have benefited from the Affordable Care Act are feeling some relief at the failure of Republican efforts to repeal it, but they face new anxieties with President Donald Trump tweeting that “ObamaCare will explode.”

Premiums have risen and major insurers have backed out of the state markets where people can buy insurance online under Obama’s signature health care law. But people who say it saved their lives or helped them start a business want lawmakers to fix these problems, not encourage them.

“It does need its fixes, I totally see that,” said Inge Hafkemeyer, 57, who credits the law’s subsidies for containing her costs as her home-based event-planning business took off in Mission, Kansas, a Kansas City suburb. “But if your roof leaks, you don’t burn down the house to fix it.”

Clare Schexnyder, 49, is convinced she’s alive today because of it. As a small business owner in Decatur, Georgia, she couldn’t afford health insurance until the rollout in 2013. She began getting mammograms, and her breast cancer was spotted in time. Her double mastectomy and reconstruction surgery was priced at $250,000, but she paid no more than her $6,200 annual deductible.

Then, her daughter spent a week in the hospital after her appendix burst, costing them another $6,200. They took out a second mortgage to pay the bills.

“An appendectomy shouldn’t have to make me refinance my house,” she said. “It’s still not a perfect system by any means, but I’m glad we have it.”

Schexnyder’s insurer pulled out of the Affordable Care Act last year, leaving fewer alternatives in Georgia, one of the states that refused to set up insurance exchanges or participate in Medicaid expansion.

But she objects to tweets like this one Trump sent on Saturday: “ObamaCare will explode and we will all get together and piece together a great healthcare plan for THE PEOPLE. Do not worry.”

“They’re setting it up to fail, which is irresponsible and unforgiveable,” Schexnyder said.

Shannon Henson, a 49-year-old unemployed conference planner in the Kansas City suburb of Independence, Missouri, said the Affordable Care Act has been a good starting point.

“It wasn’t going to be perfect from the get-go,” she said.

Republican promises to repeal and replace the law foundered on Friday when House Speaker Paul Ryan abruptly pulled the party’s health care bill to avoid almost certain defeat.

“We’re going to be living with Obamacare for the foreseeable future,” Ryan, R-Wis., told reporters.

The law has covered more than 20 million people who were previously uninsured through private insurance sold on the law’s marketplaces and by expanding Medicaid, the health program designed to help poor Americans. It required insurers to cover “essential” services, including mammograms, and barred them from refusing policies to the very sick or others with pre-existing health conditions.

But premiums jumped by double digits this year as the cost of medical care and prescription drugs continues to soar, and the marketplaces created by the law are short on the healthy consumers who make insurance companies profitable. In about one-third of U.S. counties, consumers in the individual markets don’t have a choice of plans.

Mina Viladas, 53, of Fairfield, Connecticut, said she was covered under the Affordable Care Act when she needed emergency surgery. But the self-employed fitness trainer said the insurance plans are getting more expensive.

“The Democrats need to work on improving it, with the Republicans, if possible,” she said. “But I’m happy it’s still where it is because it’s saved me.”

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Thanawala reported from San Mateo, Calif. Associated Press writers Pat Eaton-Robb in Bridgeport, Conn. and Jim Suhr in Kansas City contributed to this report.

How many politicians make money from investments in the overpriced healthcare and health insurance industry? 

Including the money from PACs and lobbies? A lot of them.

What's more important to the politicians, money or staying in their power positions?

>> organized society is brought into being and invested with the right to secure mutual protection and welfare or to regulate the relations among its members.

No one is stopping you from starting a co-op or group health plan of your own. You already have that right.

You are trying to conscript people into an involuntary program, don't confuse that with gaining rights.

>> How many politicians make money from investments in the overpriced healthcare and health insurance industry? 

Everyone that has a balanced investment portfolio does.

Elections are for millionaires. Replace one with another. 

 

other people pay?

 

you mean like when they already pay higher costs and premiums due to the fact that the system is fucked and people w. no resources show up at the ER?

 

you already subsidize shit.

Some of this has to be laid at the greedy feet of the Insurance companies.   Bloated charges etc.   I do not mind my taxes going to support the less fortunate in our country. But thats just me.  Go Bernman.

Some of this has to be laid at the greedy feet of the Insurance companies.<<< I always wonder why Insurance companies exist since they do nothing directly for the health of a patient...

Seems the life/health of each U.S. citizen is a profit center. Make it illegal to profit from a citizens health. Educate people on the food they eat. Of course that might ruffle some elite feathers.

CEO's & the rest of managements compensation is the part of the reason for high costs in healthcare.

Along with actually covering increased services provided since large previously uninsured population was very, very sick and in need of lots of services that weren't previously covered such as sleep clinics, diabetes & high blood pressure clinics, drug & alcohol treatment and mental health. These area's would have seen huge layoffs at all clinics under Trumpcare that are now busy as shit.

Every other country we compete with financially around the world guarantees healthcare to there people but not us! USA! 

Republicans believes that Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security taxes shouldn't be paid by there constituents and want them removed from the federal budget ASAP!

 

Insurance companies pulling out of markets..

- A Kaiser Family Foundation report published in May found that about 1 in 5 counties will be down to one insurance provider, and that 70 percent of one-provider counties are rural. 

Oakster, can you run in your district and win? 

>>>   No one is stopping you from starting a co-op or group health plan of your own. You already have that right.

 

Both the rich and poor have the right to not have health care.

Or food.

Slacker the valley went Trump but if Oakland still no because I follow a drug band!

Like Senator Franken? 

Slack, my political skeletons from the closet would need to be housed a very large storage facility.

Try running own shop being paid only by Medicare, see how it works out.

Until then..........

Being so clueless, is just so cute to watch.

Sounds like an ownership issue Hank. We ain't all owners in this society. 

Not so cute to watch!

Medicare billing fraud ain't what used to be under Obama!

Ok Nugs, whatever your earn, take a 40% paycut.

Lock thread.

 

:>>>> Try running own shop being paid only by Medicare, see how it works out.

 

aww, poor babies who live 100% off the government tit don't have it easy?

WTF?

Are you really complaining that having 100% of your revenue come from the taxpayer is a problem?

 

infinite ignorance is most assuredly a correct name.

Don't talk about what you don't know.

 

Serious?

^^^^^Don't talk about what you don't know.

Thanks Bullwinkle!