About to be 1968 again,, Fuckin Glue

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is getting thick. Stick together.

This fucks remarks truly are deplorable.

 

 

How long before we ban protests?

Vietnam and the draft? 

We remember.

1968 - Vietnam War, anti-War, anti- draft, assassinations of Martin Luther King, Jr. and Bobby Kennedy, multiple riots, the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, more riots, and the election of Richard Nixon. There was more, and it was a very tumultuous year.

We rise up, we resist.

>>How long before we ban protests?

 

 

 

Justice demands 1.3M IP addresses related to Trump resistance site

 

The Department of Justice has requested information on visitors to a website used to organize protests against President Trump, the Los Angeles-based Dreamhost said in a blog post published on Monday.

Dreamhost, a web hosting provider, said that it has been working with the Department of Justice for several months on the request, which believes goes too far under the Constitution.

DreamHost claimed that the complying with the request from the Justice Department would amount to handing over roughly 1.3 million visitor IP addresses to the government, in addition to contact information, email content and photos of thousands of visitors to the website, which was involved in organizing protests against Trump on Inauguration Day.

"That information could be used to identify any individuals who used this site to exercise and express political speech protected under the Constitution's First Amendment," DreamHost wrote in the blog post on Monday. "That should be enough to set alarm bells off in anyone's mind."

 

 

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346544-dreamhost-claims-doj-requ...

 

A question for you old timers.  

It would seem to me that the threat of being drafted and sent to Vietnam was a big motivating factor for many people to become active in protest movements, especially against the war.   With an all volunteer military these days, it seems easier for people just to check out or limit their activism to sharing posts on Facebook.    Do you folks who were draft age during the Vietnam War feel that the level of interest in polical activism is less these days because of the lack of a draft?

>> We rise up, we resist.

'Til my last breath!

Cool!  Maybe we'll finally get some decent new music

I blame the internet. smiley

But really, the draft and the War were motivating. The threat was real on a very personal level. But also the brutality at Convention in Chicago was televised, and the aftermath of the assassinations was felt in every big city. Those times were dangerous, frightening, and galvanizing. How could we lay low?

Great point Ken, more people tend to stand up when it is their ass on the line.

 

I think if they march in Boston though thousands will stand up against them, and it may come down to a major riot. Them white boys I seen in the pictures in Va. do not know what a real beat down is all about. Lets see them march down on the east side of cleveland and what comes their way

 

 

I love watching Fox news just to see how far they will go in their defense of Trump. I keep thinking one of them maY not go to the mat on this one, but surprise surprise the defending continues.

A lot of parents started out against the vietnam protesters until it was their kids or neighbors number, but that turn of the old guard took years to build.

The rich people start wars,and the middle class,and poor people fight in them.

Them white boys I seen in the pictures in Va. do not know what a real beat down is all about. 

 

bring that shit to brooklyn see what happens 

Trump said he would send his sons to war ,but he needs them to stay home to collect the rent money.

>Cool!  Maybe we'll finally get some decent new music

this guy still thinks def leopard is new music

>The rich people start wars,and the middle class,and poor people fight in them.

the average family of five needs an extra 70,000 to be middle class 

I guess Phish sucked. 

Lol

^Big Boat certainly isn't their strongest effort.

Blaze On sounded pretty GD-ish

"Today Donald Trump became the Leader of the Confederacy"

Def who?

can humanity evolve or not?

nazis need dosed water balloons sent their way stat.

 

But can a def leopard really change it's spots?

The Nazi war machine was fueled by crystal meth, & that seems to be the drug of choice amongst those types here/now.

Why do hippies think psychedelics can change the world?

yeah dose them all

lets see what happens 

Bad acid makes your hair turn orange.

its the brotherhood of eternal love bro...

not sure how you can get spun and not have paradigm shifts. need some?

love cannons and an i know you rider?

I heard the live Tool album a bunch while tripping. My friend played it a lot.

I don't like Tool. 

Turtle, I like your idea, but NAZI's don't deserve the sacrament. Only one way to free a Fascist mind

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10 yrs or so ago @ a Roger Waters shoe (when he did the whole Dark Side album) this "kid" next to me offered me acid (on a Lifesaver of all things), then I watched his psyche progressively degrade as the show went along.  He did not seem very, um, "experienced" & the shocking graphicness of a Waters show is not for the faint of heart to say the least.  Fun times.

tool in a mixed white city meets rural vibe with psychedelics and camping was tame compared to further junk ball fest.

>  Fun times.

Watching the kid or the show?

My other friend that lived at the apt we hung out at liked to play Floyd albums when we were tripping. 

His brother was the third roommate and he didn't do drugs or drink. 

He played The Wall the most. 

Did you groove on the Ummagumma, Slacker?

No. I just got high. When they asked what I wanted to listen to 

i would put on Infrared Roses or Axis. 

I had to bring really good weed if I wanted to play a mix tape of Butthole Surfers. 

Battle of the Bulge, Wish You Were Here, and a lil purple microdot was a big hit on friday nights..(or a monday, tuesday etc) for a while

This was Monday thru Thursday shit. The deep thoughts days.

The weekend was for raging. 

that small furry animals is very 6/7th grade

Kent State university . The killing of college students protesting the war shot and killed by the national guard and Chicago Head Banging did it for me .Tin soldiers and nixon coming   .Then they  removed the college deferment and the threat of going to Vietnam sucked having that in the back of my high school mind .Fuck Trump Fuck The alt Right time to bust some nazis heads

The rich people start wars, the middle class figures out how not to serve in them, and poor people fight in them..

Blood on the streets in the town of New Haven.....

"Should I hate a people for the shade of their skin
Or the shape of their eyes or the shape I'm in
Should I hate 'em for having our jobs today
No I hate the men sent the jobs away
I can see them all now, they haunt my dreams
All lily white and squeaky clean
They've never known want, they'll never know need
Their sh@# don't stink and their kids won't bleed
Their kids won't bleed in the damn little war
And we can't make it here anymore"-jm

Can we haven resistance meetings and activities as zoners?

Could that be a real thing?

Odyssey of the Spirit, 2017 and beyond 

^^^^^^^Can we haven resistance meetings and activities as zoners?

#Resistance threads

<<<<Why do hippies think psychedelics can change the world?

LSD dosage guide per James Fadiman, Ph.D., Institute of Transpersonal Psychology

Extremely Low Dose - Improved Cognitive Functioning & Emotional Balance

Low Dose - Problem-solving

Medium Dose - Therapeutic 

High Dose - Spiritual

So balloon accordingly

nuff said, indeed.

>>>> Why do hippies think psychedelics can change the world? <<<<

Changed my world, for the better for sure. 
I give a huge amount of credit to the LSD I took in the '60s and '70's (and to my family of origin) for how I see the world and who I am. Many lessons learned.

Charlie lololol at 2115

Ya, oak, it would take threads to create meetings and activities

#localzonersunite

"How long before we ban protests?"

Apparently we already have.  You're not keeping up.

Walk away

"Your revolution is over, Mr. Lebowski. Condolences. The bums lost."

Way back when, I'd trade acid for angel dust with the skinhead punks in Portsmouth, NH. I honestly thought that it would open their minds and let them see the errors of their ways.

They'd just get really high, listen to abhorrent, nasty songs, put garbage bags over their heads and dive down the stairs head first.

Some of them split their heads open, but it didn't open their minds. I stopped dealing with them.

Ah, there's thom. Flying his right wing colors!

He's gonna go the "legal permit" route. 

What are the odds ANY racist, pro Nazi will be changed in a positive manner that decide they actually don't wanna wipe out entire groups of people?

Because, thom, if you find nothing to denounce whatsoever in this situation from your right wing, neo Nazi attack on Charlottesville; you're truly hopeless as a human person. 

 

>> Why do hippies think psychedelics can change the world?

The precise biology behind LSD’s transformational potential remains a mystery. But researchers suggest that once LSD binds to the receptor, it’s possible that the initial ‘blast’ of stimulation results in more intense, acute psychotic-like symptoms, whereas the longer-term effects produce a ‘loosening’ of network dynamics, and a general increase in optimism and wellbeing.

Thom-

Time to re-enroll with some family medicine...

You definitely are showing signs of it "not binding".

Penicillin changed the world, but now it doesn't work as well.

pcp?

Yeah, good and times...

Manson fam took acid. It didn't work on them.

 

Any tool can be used incorrectly.

And/or some folks' brains are too set in their connections to be helped by L.

John Mayer probably took acid. 

Soul comes from ?

whatever, i say dose 'em.

Let's start with DMT enemas. Ease them into it.

lol

We need jobs to buy drugs. 

thom supports white nationalism.

thom is a disgrace.

This whole issue poses a dilemma for the Right. Do they take a moral and ethical stance, or do they follow the Party line and wrongly invoke the 1st Amendment.

For instance, Thom chose to toe the Party line, that the Nazis had a permit but were stopped by crybaby liberals.

Sorry, bud, its one thing to have a permit to march. It's another to show up dressed in paramilitary gear, shields and brandishing weapons. They were t there to exercise their First Amendment rights. They were there to instill fear and intimidate through overt symbols of violence.

So, this is where we see who on the Right has morals and who doesn't. This isn't some politicized shit like Benghazi, emails, supposed collusion, etc. This is Nazis with weapons, in paramilitary gear.

Individualists Unite!

I think it's pretty straight forward. If you see an equivalence with a group of people that have fascist views and the group that opposes them, then you should drink out of your toilet. Maybe pour a gallon of bleach in it first.

Sadly, they don't see an equivalence. The hate group had a permit, which makes them better than the protesters.

I read an interesting study recently showing that outrage and indignation push the same neurological buttons as heroin and love.

Google that shit. Worth a read.

Seriouslee though, if The New Black Panthers show up armed to the hilt like back in the 1960s ........ Really something to mull over. 

 

Edit to add in Boston.

>>>>if The New Black Panthers show up armed to the hilt like back in the 1960s 

Well, at least one of them showed up last year armed to the hilt in Dallas and bad shit happened.  Imagine a couple of guys like that getting into firefight with those armed to the hilt right wing militia guys.  I bet those militia assholes are foaming at the mouth hoping for something like that to happen and things could get all crazy pretty quick.   Hope cooler heads prevail.

What did the armed militia that showed up to Charlottesville do? 

Were they standing next to the police watching the fights break out? 

>> I read an interesting study recently showing that outrage and indignation push the same neurological buttons as heroin and love.Google that shit. Worth a read.

Listened to a woman (can't think of her name) from the Southern Poverty Law Center explain something similar about this Hate movement is like a drug.

People lose there jobs, friends, family etc. because it envelopes them and it's all they want to live for.

The nazis want to provoke a fight, so their long awaited race war can be ignited.

Just like ISIS - remember them?

The Love Button is infinitely more pleasant

For sure, TOD. The neurosis of the idiots who march around with hate groups is pretty easy to see.

I'd also point out that the "opposition" is now firmly aboard the outrage train as well. My Facebook feed is a smoldering dumpster fire of indignation. It's pretty funny that people really believe we need to "stand up" and "fight" against a bunch of beta males waving Nazi flags around. Or, even a racist president who can't actually accomplish anything; because he's probably brain damaged, and most definitely inept.

Careful, folks. 

 

I am all the way with Turts on this. We need to dose all those fucks.

LSD opens your mind. It allows you to see things much more clearly by opening new avenues of thought. Thom, you could use a refresher course.

And even if it did no good as far as opening their collective minds, it would be great fun to watch. Fuck those scumbags and all that excuse or support them.

Time for good folks to intervene. We need a little crazy on our side.

LSD and weed are not free. Who's buying? 

waste of good acid if you ask me

>>>They'd just get really high, listen to abhorrent, nasty songs, put garbage bags over their heads and dive down the stairs head first.

Those were my fucking upstairs neighbors when I lived in Portsmouth.

Sounds like your neighbors were on the all bipolar team. Waste of good LSD. 

I keep hearing the phrase "Take our country back!" but I am afraid that many people don't really understand who we should be trying to take it back from! 

^^^^THIS