I disagree, in my opinion the band was absolutely hitting on all cylinders for what many believe was "the last great tour", I think you can see it in Jerry's eyes as far as the pride in what he was able to build, he seemed fully cognizant of the sociopolitical impact the band was having on America and thus Western Civilization...an exciting time to be sure!
I always thought that was one of Brent's best vocal improvs he ever did! I haven't seen / heard many versions of this song, so maybe it was more common, but I thought it shredded...
Not sure how to even address that...I feel like I should choose my words carefully, I'd rather debate game day atmosphere at Camp Randall, is this like a trick question or something, what are you possibly thinking? I'm not sure I understand what you're suggesting...what????
The JFK show was fantastic, and this was the worst song of the night IMO (even though it's a good version of the song). But then I never liked this song, and I was appalled by the "put your fists in the air" shtick.
They could take every single instrument away from that song, so it's only Brent at the mic --a cappella--and it would be galaxies better, in every conceivable manner and way, than the best thing Dead and Co. can put up.
One of the things Garcia thought about Brent's genius was the incredible singer he was, how he could fill up a stadium or arena with the power of his vocal. And when you have a few musicians on stage who qualify as geniuses on their instrument like Brent does on his (both organ/piano and voice) and like Garcia does on everything and like Lesh does on his instrument, then you have a song like this (not in the top 5 versions but still...) and it makes anything Dead an Co can do look pretty stupid. Clownish even.
And god bless the teenagers and older folks who like that band, I'm glad they do, and it makes me happy thinking of the new generation of folk who get to hear great songs like Terrapin, even if the are sung by Weir.
As for this argument...Garcia, like many other opinions having to do with music, was right. When Brent had the audience by the balls, it was a site to witness.
Lance was just up too late and let his bias over the late 80s show through.
He never got the talent of Brent like Garcia and other folks did--forgive him. He's kind of a grumpy curmudgeon when it comes to this stuff--I'll always love him despite how much we disagree on it. This is, after all subjective--but on this one Garcia wins and Mr. Lance loses.
Brent brought the energy on this song and yes, Jerry loved it! To compare Dead and Co. to this band is ridiculous. Pigpen was my favorite keyboardist but Brent is clearly close behind IMO.
He's seen him play live with the band, Jonas. But he's on his own trip about that. Having to do with the band not listening to each other as much as they did when he started to see them, and it turning into too big of a shitshow etc. That bias thing, and that confirmation bias thing can influence a lot of how we think. Just like I can't stand Vince as a musician, and it probably makes me judge that era of music more harshly.
It's subjective stuff, but what's not subjective is that the talent of Brent outweighs the talent of Vince like the sun outshines a small rolled up ball of muddied up tinfoil.
But that's a whole nother thing let's stick to Lance.
He's allowed his opinions and biases, musical biases beat racial biases any day. And it's only the Republicans who don't think they have racial biases. But that's a whole nother thing too! So let's just stick with mr. Lance.
He enjoys being wrong I think. It's just part of the reason why I love him.
Excuse the fucked up writing (even more than usual) and typos/spelling errors--i tried using voice command on my phone while driving and it's just not easy for me to zone lke that. I'm old.
And just so we're all understood... I loved Brent, absolutely loved him, from his first show at Spartan, through the Warfield acoustic sets (the best thing Brent ever did with them?) all the way up until about '87. Then, after everything (Jerry, thus everything) had been going south for a couple of years, so did Brent.
But it's OK, you can still like it.
I watched that video last night and it made me very sad. Oof, what that once brilliant, completely unique musical group had devolved into, what that once delicate yet articulate & intuitive keyboard player had become. So then I had to go back into youtube and watch earlier Brent years, and it was so different, and so great, and it validated my argument once again.
I admit I wasn't in the best mood when this came up last night, but it's still my honest & thoughtful opinion based on personal experience from the thrilling beginning to the sad end. Normally I try to keep my comments positive, but sometimes you just have to say wow, what's up with the sweaty, screaming bug-eyed dude? That's the same guy? What happened to HIM???
Oh, and it's all just music. No matter who's playing it.
BTW, I can't help but feel a little smug as I read this thread. As I was writing them I knew my comments would bring felina out.
I may not be a physiologist, but I play one on TV.
Despite our differing opinions on this subject, I appreciate the general support mrf.
Ultimately I think all this is a testament to the overall greatness of the Grateful Dead. How fans can have such strong & widely varying opinions on the same things, much of which IMO again is based on their perspective based on when they "got on the bus".
How 21-year-olds in 2018 can think that Dead & Co. or JRAD or even DSO can be amazing & life-changing groups, how someone can think that Brent was great in '81 but out of control in '89, or that the band was washed up in '71. '74, '76, '79, '85, '92, etc. just shows how fucking great & powerful they really were, how great & powerful the music still is.
I get what Lance is saying. By 1989 the band had changed. Built to Last came out the year before, and every other song on the album was Brent. He was singing more songs in concerts, and also playing more leads. His harmonies were also becoming more prominent.
Brent was morphing from a keyboard player to a sort of a front-man, maybe like Pig was 20 years earlier, all the soup and a tad more cheese.
I can see how people didn’t dig the changes. Me? I fucking loved Brent. That dude brought tears to my eyes, a lot.
I kinda did.. Only saw 20 some-odd shows in the 80s. Not because I hate Brent - I don't, though I preferred Keith's playing. I just didn't like the sound of the band as much during that era. Jerry was declining through the first half of the decade and trying to put it back together during the second half. We also had young kids at that time, which made it more difficult to travel.
Well, none, really. Back in the day I liked the Who, and I also enjoyed the first Led Zep album. Not all that metal-sounding. I saw the Scorpions once, opening for Tuna, but didn't like them.
I've always felt that The Who were an angry sound and their fans made believable angry alcoholics. Like when they say whiskey is a mean buzz. Who fans are angry and violent.
>>> So then I had to go back into youtube and watch earlier Brent years, and it was so different, and so great, and it validated my argument once again.
Different is the key word here. It WAS a different band. But your bit about musicians listening to each other is what's flawed. Garcia ALWAYS listened, some nights more than others depending on his state of mind but he always was a huge listener... in 1981 and in 1989. Were they a different band between those years? They were. For lots and lots of reasons. If they were the same band then something would would have been wrong with those people. Also...Leah ALWAYS listened to the people on stage as well. Same with Weir. Mickey...I'm not going to make that argument with that guy and that had an influence on Billy in terms of the sound those guys were putting out. No doubt about that. I also think that if I had to guess, Garcia wasn't a fan of that. I know Weir wasn't but my guess is Garcia wasn't either...who knows.
Of course you are allowed to like one period better than the other. But here's the thing. I promise you that if you first started to see this band in 1971, let's say, you would have been saying the same thing comparing the band --pre 75 to the band in 1981. And you would have called the band of 1981 and 1983 a mess and you would have had your reasons. Garcia would have been one of them and the word mess would have probably been used. I am fairly certain that you that you would have been that guy.
So think on that a bit and maybe it will provide you a little perspective on this stuff. Brent was a different animal in 81 compared to 89. In 1989, he was addicted to heroin, depressed with suicidal ideation and pretty much alone. But he was still a genius at what he did, just like Garcia was in those years leading up to his coma in '86. Brent was a leader of that monster that was the GD in 1989, often taking that band and leading them to various kingdoms of glory. And the leader of that band--Garcia--well, he was plenty happy with what Brent grew into and when he passed, I never really thought he got over it, in a musical sense.
Some of the older folks like yourself were not real happy with Brent...not ALL of the older folks---I knew plenty who started in the pre-75 era and some in the late 60s era who loved the Brent of 81 and the Brent of 89, and who loved the GD in 81 every bit as much as the GD in 89 despite the differences in bands during those eras.
The perspective thing is a good hat to try on. You are welcome to yours, but I was being very serious with the bias bit too, just so you know.
>>>As I was writing them I knew my comments would bring felina out.
I haven't been going to any of the music threads in this place--just haven't been interested in doing that. But Miller released a Healy Ultra Mix of this one--there are some who think it's much better than the official release. I've been listening to it in my car for the last few days--I have a pretty big spindle of the UItra Mixes that Miller has been steadily putting out and it was Philly's turn regarding the GD stuff. So I was interested in going into this one due to the context.
Context and perspective---two worth friends to have in this word, at least to my way of thinking. For example, you would have had a different perspective if you had listened to that Blow Away instead of watched it. And a different opinion on the version too.
You going to Santa Barbara? You going to actually take your advice and see the show when it comes to Neil and this band of young whippersnappers? Or you going to let youtube videos tell the story for ya, the way that you disdain how others do?
In reference to "the last great tour" I think I and others are coming from the perspective of an anthropological sense as far being the last camping/vending tour with a "circus comes to town" atmosphere.
We became a small city on wheels, nothing exactly like that has ever really happened since.
From Foxboro to the last Grateful Dead show ever at the Greek Theatre in Berkeley, it was the last time these cities ever gave us the chance to become our own small village...and that was very special & unique.
Mark, it's just a musical opinion - he's still a good respectable person. I mean you love music I will never enjoy listening to, but you still hold my respect.
And in response to felina, I'm one of those old people who started seeing GD in the '60s and loved/loves Brent. Really.
One highlight on that run was being near the front on the 4th of July...Jerry was wearing his gray hair in a ponytail and kind of had a "founding father" look about him that evening...pretty sure Bill Graham allowed everyone without a ticket in for the 2nd set, which was a beautiful gesture.
Someone mentioned The Who earlier in the thread, the group I was with stayed at Alpine Valley before the journey west to go to The Who shows directly after the Grateful Dead played Alpine, as did a lot of folks.
I think Jerry definitely knew those might be the very Last shows at the Greek, which in some ways marked the end of an era, I remember the crowd shouting before the encore "one more set, one more set" it seemed like Jerry and Brent were on board, but Phil being Mr. Responsibility was like non-verbally "we'd love to but we can't".
Wandered down to Telegraph Avenue and played guitar in front of Blondie's until I raised enough to buy a slice...good times!
>>>>>One thing about Brent, no matter how high you were, you could always count on Brent being every bit as high as you were, that was often reassuring
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry
What a mess.
What a mess.
That band is what Dead & Co. looks to emulate.
And Dead & Co. is better than that.
IMO.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island
Phil sounded good.
Phil sounded good.
I love Brent but my computer isn't liking Youtube so I wasn't able to listen to the whole thing; it sounded muddy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen
I disagree, in my opinion the
I disagree, in my opinion the band was absolutely hitting on all cylinders for what many believe was "the last great tour", I think you can see it in Jerry's eyes as far as the pride in what he was able to build, he seemed fully cognizant of the sociopolitical impact the band was having on America and thus Western Civilization...an exciting time to be sure!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen
One thing about Brent, no
One thing about Brent, no matter how high you were, you could always count on Brent being every bit as high as you were, that was often reassuring.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba
I always thought that was one
I always thought that was one of Brent's best vocal improvs he ever did! I haven't seen / heard many versions of this song, so maybe it was more common, but I thought it shredded...
RIP Brent
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger
>>>And Dead & Co. is better
>>>And Dead & Co. is better than that
THANK YOU!!!
You don’t know how much shit I get when I tell people that John and Jeff >>>>> Jerry and Brent, it’s great to have someone on my side.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen
Not sure how to even address
Not sure how to even address that...I feel like I should choose my words carefully, I'd rather debate game day atmosphere at Camp Randall, is this like a trick question or something, what are you possibly thinking? I'm not sure I understand what you're suggesting...what????
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry
I'm not saying "better"
I'm not saying "better".
Just better than that.
Listen to me closely close.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
^i vehemently disagree.
^i vehemently disagree.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: I rang a silent bell
The prior show 7/4/89 was
The prior show 7/4/89 was better
https://youtu.be/g_C7lpzwba0
http://gratefuldeadoftheday.com/07-04-1989
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
^i like the jfk show more
^i like the jfk show more than the buffalo show.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius
The JFK show was fantastic,
The JFK show was fantastic, and this was the worst song of the night IMO (even though it's a good version of the song). But then I never liked this song, and I was appalled by the "put your fists in the air" shtick.
"John and Jeff >>>>> Jerry and Brent"
Now you're just embarrassing yourself.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: JP (J Bomb)
I love this Blow Away. Laying
I love this Blow Away. Laying it on the table for all to see. Some might call it art.
What a day, what a show, what an absolute mass of human beings.
The second set crushes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger
>>>>Now you're just
>>>>Now you're just embarrassing yourself.
Wow I didn’t know “embarrassing yourself” was a concept you were aware of!
Im merely a student at the feet of a master.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bluelight
I took my wedding party (from
I took my wedding party (from the next month) to the Giant Std. show & Los Lobos opened (as the sun was well out still).
I don't drink & am always the pilot -
It was a splendid day & Dan Healey's finest hour, he did it all.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: chris
Jerry and the audience sure
Jerry and the audience sure seemed to enjoy it. Brent was a special artist and his passion is missed greatly.
Comparing to Deadco is quite strange for me to consider. Without Jerry or Phil on the stage, it's not even close. And I enjoy Deadco a lot!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: I rang a silent bell
I do love that Blow Away, ((
I do love that Blow Away, (((do you think, your rib cage is a prison cell mama?)))
Was at both those shows, the Buffalo experience was special for our little gang at the time.
We were handing out oranges.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: felina
They could take every single
They could take every single instrument away from that song, so it's only Brent at the mic --a cappella--and it would be galaxies better, in every conceivable manner and way, than the best thing Dead and Co. can put up.
One of the things Garcia thought about Brent's genius was the incredible singer he was, how he could fill up a stadium or arena with the power of his vocal. And when you have a few musicians on stage who qualify as geniuses on their instrument like Brent does on his (both organ/piano and voice) and like Garcia does on everything and like Lesh does on his instrument, then you have a song like this (not in the top 5 versions but still...) and it makes anything Dead an Co can do look pretty stupid. Clownish even.
And god bless the teenagers and older folks who like that band, I'm glad they do, and it makes me happy thinking of the new generation of folk who get to hear great songs like Terrapin, even if the are sung by Weir.
As for this argument...Garcia, like many other opinions having to do with music, was right. When Brent had the audience by the balls, it was a site to witness.
Lance was just up too late and let his bias over the late 80s show through.
He never got the talent of Brent like Garcia and other folks did--forgive him. He's kind of a grumpy curmudgeon when it comes to this stuff--I'll always love him despite how much we disagree on it. This is, after all subjective--but on this one Garcia wins and Mr. Lance loses.
And not in a small way.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond
>"the last great tour"
>"the last great tour"
Spring 90 was the last great tour / Garcia's last great stand.
>Lance was just up too late
IMO part of 'getting' Brent was seeing him play live with the band.
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: eyes>too
Brent brought the energy on
Brent brought the energy on this song and yes, Jerry loved it! To compare Dead and Co. to this band is ridiculous. Pigpen was my favorite keyboardist but Brent is clearly close behind IMO.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: felina
He seen him play live with
He's seen him play live with the band, Jonas. But he's on his own trip about that. Having to do with the band not listening to each other as much as they did when he started to see them, and it turning into too big of a shitshow etc. That bias thing, and that confirmation bias thing can influence a lot of how we think. Just like I can't stand Vince as a musician, and it probably makes me judge that era of music more harshly.
It's subjective stuff, but what's not subjective is that the talent of Brent outweighs the talent of Vince like the sun outshines a small rolled up ball of muddied up tinfoil.
But that's a whole nother thing let's stick to Lance.
He's allowed his opinions and biases, musical biases beat racial biases any day. And it's only the Republicans who don't think they have racial biases. But that's a whole nother thing too! So let's just stick with mr. Lance.
He enjoys being wrong I think. It's just part of the reason why I love him.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: felina
Excuse the fucked upu writing
Excuse the fucked up writing (even more than usual) and typos/spelling errors--i tried using voice command on my phone while driving and it's just not easy for me to zone lke that. I'm old.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune
If people don't or didn't
If people don't or didn't like Brent, I don't know what to tell them. Maybe should've just sat the entire 80s out?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry
Oh you people.
Oh you people.
It's OK, I understand.
And just so we're all understood... I loved Brent, absolutely loved him, from his first show at Spartan, through the Warfield acoustic sets (the best thing Brent ever did with them?) all the way up until about '87. Then, after everything (Jerry, thus everything) had been going south for a couple of years, so did Brent.
But it's OK, you can still like it.
I watched that video last night and it made me very sad. Oof, what that once brilliant, completely unique musical group had devolved into, what that once delicate yet articulate & intuitive keyboard player had become. So then I had to go back into youtube and watch earlier Brent years, and it was so different, and so great, and it validated my argument once again.
I admit I wasn't in the best mood when this came up last night, but it's still my honest & thoughtful opinion based on personal experience from the thrilling beginning to the sad end. Normally I try to keep my comments positive, but sometimes you just have to say wow, what's up with the sweaty, screaming bug-eyed dude? That's the same guy? What happened to HIM???
Oh, and it's all just music. No matter who's playing it.
BTW, I can't help but feel a little smug as I read this thread. As I was writing them I knew my comments would bring felina out.
I may not be a physiologist, but I play one on TV.
Despite our differing opinions on this subject, I appreciate the general support mrf.
Ultimately I think all this is a testament to the overall greatness of the Grateful Dead. How fans can have such strong & widely varying opinions on the same things, much of which IMO again is based on their perspective based on when they "got on the bus".
How 21-year-olds in 2018 can think that Dead & Co. or JRAD or even DSO can be amazing & life-changing groups, how someone can think that Brent was great in '81 but out of control in '89, or that the band was washed up in '71. '74, '76, '79, '85, '92, etc. just shows how fucking great & powerful they really were, how great & powerful the music still is.
Long Live the Grateful Dead!!!!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger
His rib cage was like a jail
His rib cage was like a jail cell.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank
I get what Lance is saying.
I get what Lance is saying. By 1989 the band had changed. Built to Last came out the year before, and every other song on the album was Brent. He was singing more songs in concerts, and also playing more leads. His harmonies were also becoming more prominent.
Brent was morphing from a keyboard player to a sort of a front-man, maybe like Pig was 20 years earlier, all the soup and a tad more cheese.
I can see how people didn’t dig the changes. Me? I fucking loved Brent. That dude brought tears to my eyes, a lot.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank
“Soup” was supposed to be
“Soup” was supposed to be “soul.”
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High
>>>>>Maybe should've just
>>>>>Maybe should've just sat the entire 80s out?
I kinda did.. Only saw 20 some-odd shows in the 80s. Not because I hate Brent - I don't, though I preferred Keith's playing. I just didn't like the sound of the band as much during that era. Jerry was declining through the first half of the decade and trying to put it back together during the second half. We also had young kids at that time, which made it more difficult to travel.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call"
What is the most hard rock
What is the most hard rock metal sounding band you like?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High
Well, none, really. Back in
Well, none, really. Back in the day I liked the Who, and I also enjoyed the first Led Zep album. Not all that metal-sounding. I saw the Scorpions once, opening for Tuna, but didn't like them.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call"
I've always felt that The Who
I've always felt that The Who were an angry sound and their fans made believable angry alcoholics. Like when they say whiskey is a mean buzz. Who fans are angry and violent.
Did you boo Dylan at Newport in 65? Kidding.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb
dead n go is better than that
dead n go is better than that specific version of blow away?
jeez, people are crazy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High
Loved it when Zimmy went
Loved it when Zimmy went electric.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: felina
>>> So then I had to go back
>>> So then I had to go back into youtube and watch earlier Brent years, and it was so different, and so great, and it validated my argument once again.
Different is the key word here. It WAS a different band. But your bit about musicians listening to each other is what's flawed. Garcia ALWAYS listened, some nights more than others depending on his state of mind but he always was a huge listener... in 1981 and in 1989. Were they a different band between those years? They were. For lots and lots of reasons. If they were the same band then something would would have been wrong with those people. Also...Leah ALWAYS listened to the people on stage as well. Same with Weir. Mickey...I'm not going to make that argument with that guy and that had an influence on Billy in terms of the sound those guys were putting out. No doubt about that. I also think that if I had to guess, Garcia wasn't a fan of that. I know Weir wasn't but my guess is Garcia wasn't either...who knows.
Of course you are allowed to like one period better than the other. But here's the thing. I promise you that if you first started to see this band in 1971, let's say, you would have been saying the same thing comparing the band --pre 75 to the band in 1981. And you would have called the band of 1981 and 1983 a mess and you would have had your reasons. Garcia would have been one of them and the word mess would have probably been used. I am fairly certain that you that you would have been that guy.
So think on that a bit and maybe it will provide you a little perspective on this stuff. Brent was a different animal in 81 compared to 89. In 1989, he was addicted to heroin, depressed with suicidal ideation and pretty much alone. But he was still a genius at what he did, just like Garcia was in those years leading up to his coma in '86. Brent was a leader of that monster that was the GD in 1989, often taking that band and leading them to various kingdoms of glory. And the leader of that band--Garcia--well, he was plenty happy with what Brent grew into and when he passed, I never really thought he got over it, in a musical sense.
Some of the older folks like yourself were not real happy with Brent...not ALL of the older folks---I knew plenty who started in the pre-75 era and some in the late 60s era who loved the Brent of 81 and the Brent of 89, and who loved the GD in 81 every bit as much as the GD in 89 despite the differences in bands during those eras.
The perspective thing is a good hat to try on. You are welcome to yours, but I was being very serious with the bias bit too, just so you know.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: felina
>>>As I was writing them I
>>>As I was writing them I knew my comments would bring felina out.
I haven't been going to any of the music threads in this place--just haven't been interested in doing that. But Miller released a Healy Ultra Mix of this one--there are some who think it's much better than the official release. I've been listening to it in my car for the last few days--I have a pretty big spindle of the UItra Mixes that Miller has been steadily putting out and it was Philly's turn regarding the GD stuff. So I was interested in going into this one due to the context.
Context and perspective---two worth friends to have in this word, at least to my way of thinking. For example, you would have had a different perspective if you had listened to that Blow Away instead of watched it. And a different opinion on the version too.
You going to Santa Barbara? You going to actually take your advice and see the show when it comes to Neil and this band of young whippersnappers? Or you going to let youtube videos tell the story for ya, the way that you disdain how others do?
Hope it's the former and I'll see ya there!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen
In reference to "the
In reference to "the last great tour" I think I and others are coming from the perspective of an anthropological sense as far being the last camping/vending tour with a "circus comes to town" atmosphere.
We became a small city on wheels, nothing exactly like that has ever really happened since.
From Foxboro to the last Grateful Dead show ever at the Greek Theatre in Berkeley, it was the last time these cities ever gave us the chance to become our own small village...and that was very special & unique.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: MarkD
D&C is not in the same
D&C is not in the same universe as The GD before Brent died. I lost a lot of respect for Tom just now. Sad.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island
Mark, it's just a musical
Mark, it's just a musical opinion - he's still a good respectable person. I mean you love music I will never enjoy listening to, but you still hold my respect.
And in response to felina, I'm one of those old people who started seeing GD in the '60s and loved/loves Brent. Really.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen
as far "as" being
as far "as" being
One highlight on that run was being near the front on the 4th of July...Jerry was wearing his gray hair in a ponytail and kind of had a "founding father" look about him that evening...pretty sure Bill Graham allowed everyone without a ticket in for the 2nd set, which was a beautiful gesture.
Someone mentioned The Who earlier in the thread, the group I was with stayed at Alpine Valley before the journey west to go to The Who shows directly after the Grateful Dead played Alpine, as did a lot of folks.
I think Jerry definitely knew those might be the very Last shows at the Greek, which in some ways marked the end of an era, I remember the crowd shouting before the encore "one more set, one more set" it seemed like Jerry and Brent were on board, but Phil being Mr. Responsibility was like non-verbally "we'd love to but we can't".
Wandered down to Telegraph Avenue and played guitar in front of Blondie's until I raised enough to buy a slice...good times!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day
>>>>>One thing about Brent,
>>>>>One thing about Brent, no matter how high you were, you could always count on Brent being every bit as high as you were, that was often reassuring
love it
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bluelight
Brent drove like a glove; it
Brent drove like a glove; it was a natural fit.