50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions

*rolls eyes*

Shoulda known

*clicks back button*

I'm not a scientist, but have you been to the beach lately. High tides are flooding low lying areas up and down the coast. Now if you don't believe the ice is melting, then the alternative is the shore is sinking. I'm staying put in upstate N.Y. and if I live long enuf, I'll have beach front property. That's a joke, it my home is under water, it's the end.

Well, I'm personally glad that these worst case predictions haven't happened - yet.

On an anecdotal level, I remember visiting relatives in LA in the '70's and my eyes started stinging and I quickly developed a horrible cough.

I'd like to think that employing "alarmist" laws, like mandatory catalytic converters and regular smog checks have helped to make the air cleaner - seems that way to me, though I know that the smog still returns regularly.

https://timeline.com/la-smog-pollution-4ca4bc0cc95d

The Competitive Enterprise Institute is a corporate lobby shell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competitive_Enterprise_Institute

CEI promotes environmental policies based on limited government regulation and property rights and rejects what they call "global warming alarmism".[3] The organization's largest program, the Center for Energy and Environment, focuses on energy policy, chemical risk policy, Clean Air Act regulation, land and water regulation, the Endangered Species Act, and private conservation policies.

CEI is an outspoken opponent of government action by the Environmental Protection Agency that would require limits on greenhouse gas emissions. It favors free-market environmentalism, and supports the idea that market institutions are more effective in protecting the environment than is government. CEI President Kent Lassman wrote on the organization's blog that, "there is no debate about whether the Earth’s climate is warming", that "human activities very likely contribute to that warming", and that "this has long been the CEI's position".[4]

In March 1992, CEI's founder Fred Smith said of anthropogenic climate change: "Most of the indications right now are it looks pretty good. Warmer winters, warmer nights, no effects during the day because of clouding, sounds to me like we're moving to a more benign planet, more rain, richer, easier productivity to agriculture."[5]

In May 2006, CEI's global warming policy activities attracted attention as it embarked upon an ad campaign with two television commercials.[6] These ads promote carbon dioxide as a positive factor in the environment and argue that global warming is not a concern. One ad focuses on the message that CO2 is misrepresented as a pollutant, stating that "it's essential to life. We breathe it out. Plants breathe it in... They call it pollution. We call it life."[7] The other states that the world's glaciers are "growing, not melting... getting thicker, not thinner."[7] It cites Science articles to support its claims. However, the editor of Science stated that the ad "misrepresents the conclusions of the two cited Science papers... by selective referencing". The author of the articles, Curt Davis, director of the Center for Geospatial Intelligence at the University of Missouri, said CEI was misrepresenting his previous research to inflate their claims. "These television ads are a deliberate effort to confuse and mislead the public about the global warming debate," Davis said.[8]

In 2009, CEI's director of energy and global warming policy told The Washington Post, "The only thing that's been demonstrated to reduce emissions is economic collapse".[9]

In 2014, CEI sued the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy over a video that linked the polar vortex to climate change.[10]

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Don't take offense in this Thom but you come across like the type of guy who huffs paint in his master closet with women's panty hose pulled over his head.

Brother thom, how old ye be ?  Cuz you're that many years of failed arguments.

Did you ever win one in like kindergarten or first grade ? I can't see it.

He’s like a busted ass Timex “Takes a licking and keeps on ticking”, barely

Go eat a bag of DDT.

Catdaddy, wake up, please.

^That's almost as crazy as doing drugs and attending a music concert. 

Dayum... 

Lol    ?

 So fucking predictable it’s sad

I wonder if you take a shit and it was blue, would you kill yourself??

You are probably a very literate person or take pride in beings so, and I am not

Was is it don Quixote that tilted against Windmills?

Why do ostriches stick their head in the sand —is it to get to the other side?

Just wow 

Do you hate California also

 Are you resentful of California and perhaps even childishly spiteful?

Poor don don.  Complete tool

 Thom do u think u have s higher IQ or emotional maturity than your leader?

"Anti Science Movement Hurts America"

<<But in fact, science is messy. It starts with a hypothesis, a theory about the way something works. One scientist finds evidence that seems to prove or disprove that idea. Others pile on, testing it, modifying it, and sometimes disproving it. 

People see news of these debates and think, "Aha, those scientists don't really know what they're talking about." So they feel free to choose whichever scientific facts they want to believe in and cluster into social groups based on those beliefs.>>

https://www.businessinsider.com/anti-science-movement-hurts-america-2015-3

Victory at all costs

sates rights?   Only if they are red

A bunch of fucking hypocrites

have a “nice” day

Poor Thom can't help himself.

So Harvard has this really inventive and creative way to combat the effects of rising global temperatures. Spraying the sky with particulates to reflect harmful uv radiation and effectively cool the planet.

Chemtrails might be the new Climate Justice Warriors!!! 

The potential for climate engineering with stratospheric sulfate aerosol injections to reduce climate injustice

https://geoengineering.environment.harvard.edu/publications/potential-cl...

>>>>2014: Only 500 days before ‘climate chaos’

One just needs to look around and its clear we are already in a period of climate chaos.  "100 year floods" are occurring yearly, hurricanes are getting stronger and more frequent, glaciers are melting, wildfires are out of control, etc.

Talk to the residents of Paradise, California or Abaco Island in the Bahamas if you still have doubts as to whether things are "normal."   According to NOAA, the five hottest years on record (since they started keeping records in the late 1800s) have been the last five years.   Shit, I was just up in Arctic Circle and it was hot and smokey from unprecedented wildfires.  Brooks Range is only a few miles off in the distance in this picture:

There are two types of "climate skeptics."   First, you have people who recognize the obvious and understand the place is getting hotter and hotter, but dismiss it as part of natural climatic cycles that have been going on since the dawn of time.   However, what they miss is the speed in which the weather is changing and how it can't be attributed to some dramatic event such as an astroid strike or mega-volcano eruption (both of which would cause a dramatic cooling).

Then you have folks that refuse to acknowledge the obvious and simply ignore science and don't believe the weatherman.   But as they say, you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

Jeff Bezos , before he cures climate change, can he take a few minutes and fix that buffering on the Firestik?

https://apple.news/AH4lgbjL2Sk-6irKHCzo9xg

for the birds 

just a left wing hoax......

Have you tried the BK impossible whopper?

This is lunatic straw man bullshit.

Oh, it's Thom.

ok. carry on.

Personally, I have reproduced five times 

does that make me evil and a traitor to the cause?

or ......

I repent 

Not sure what for .,.

having a conscience 

or a heart

or a brain

or replying to a f—-

Vasectomies were all the rage in Earth First! circles for population control and I know plenty of people who have successfully avoided adding more people to the planet.   I have one kid and don't plan on anymore, so I guess I am ok on that front Chinese style. 

>>>Have you tried the BK impossible whopper?

I have to travel up and down the I-5 corridor for work and the couple of BKs right off the highway (Castle Rock and Woodburn) have been a guilty convenience.  They have had regular veggie burgers for sometime, but the Impossible Whopper is definitely an upgrade.  Got one recently coming back from a hearing in Marion County and way cheaper than the Impossible Burgers at local brewpubs. 

Sticking to a plant based diet (except for front yard chicken eggs and game and fish I catch myself) is one way of helping to offset my carbon footprint caused by all the plane travel I do.

Thom = Foxnews = Unable To Learn = Box Of Rocks

On the issue of fossil fuels powering the cloud, many tech giants have been building enormous server farms out in the sticks in eastern Oregon to take advantage of the abundance of cheap electricity produced by the hydroelectric dams on the Columbia River.  They have their own issues with salmon, but it is otherwise clean and renewable.

One of the many energy solutions is decentralization (which would be great for small biz).  In other words, get everyone off the grid as much as possible...  be it solar, wind, cogeneration, digesters for septic, tidal, river, etc.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqPKJ1c-w_Q